The Trump Family; Liars, Grifters and Thieves

[acbytesla]

What can we say about Trump that hasn't already been said? I know, LOCK HIM UP!

For all his chants of leading his fandom to cheers of 'Lock her up' when referring to Hillary .
It is Trump that belongs in prison as does his children with the obvious exception of the daughter we never hear about and Trump's alter ego namesake Barron. Ivanka, Eric, Donald Jr should go to prison and pay massive fines for their crimes.

I use to believe that Ivanka was a class act. But like her father Ivanka is a liar and a con-artist.

At times, the hyperbole crossed over into misrepresentation. In a November 2008 interview, Ivanka Trump bragged that she had “sold 40 units in Panama last month.” She added that “it’s a 1,000-unit building, we’ve sold over 90 percent of it.” The units, she said, had been going at a “500 percent premium to anything the luxury market has ever experienced prior to our entry.”
https://features.propublica.org/trump-inc-podcast/trump-family-business-panama-city-khafif/

Ivanka said she personally sold 40 of the units. The truth? She never sold a single unit. Also even 3 months later only 79 percent of the units were sold. Most at market value, although some sold for as much as a 30 percent premium not the absurd 500 percent.

Like father like daughter.

Read the pro-publica article
https://features.propublica.org/trump-inc-podcast/trump-family-business-panama-city-khafif/

and the New York Times article

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

And consider the NY State lawsuit where the State alleges that Trump's charity was unethical and illegal. His primary motivation was to enrich himself rather than helping others. The state of New York is alleging that the president's charity was a sham.

What do you all think? Is President Trump a criminal?

 

[kookbreaker]

Yes.

 

[Trebuchet]

Yes. And you forgot Jared.

 

[sts60]

Yes, and he’s the head of a crime family.

It’s astonishing to think we have a president who is a worse human being then both his grandfather, the draft-dodging pimp, and his father, the tax-cheating Klansman.

 

[alfaniner]

Liars, Grifters and Thieves

But every night all the men would come around
And lay their money down.

 

[acbytesla]

Yes, and he’s the head of a crime family.
It’s astonishing to think we have a president who is a worse human being then both his grandfather, the draft-dodging pimp, and his father, the tax-cheating Klansman.

Literally, the head of a crime family.
No
Factually the head of a crime family.

 

[Roger Ramjets]

Is President Trump a criminal?

He may have been once, but as president he is above the law. All he has to do is pardon himself for any past crimes and he becomes legally innocent.

Of course this only applies while he is president. Therefore, don't be surprised if for some 'very good' reason the 2020 elections have to be delayed indefinitely.

 

[acbytesla]

He may have been once, but as president he is above the law. All he has to do is pardon himself for any past crimes and he becomes legally innocent.

Of course this only applies while he is president. Therefore, don't be surprised if for some 'very good' reason the 2020 elections have to be delayed indefinitely.

He has yet to pardon himself and Trump may not pardon away crimes against the various states. Fraud committed in New York State is a crime against New York State, not the Federal government. The State of New York is suing Trump for crimes as opposed to prosecuting him because, well he's the President.

Your point is like the proverbial tree in the forest. Is it the commission of a crime that makes one a criminal or is it the conviction?

 

[Trebuchet]

But every night all the men would come around
And lay their money down.

I'd say "thanks for the earworm" but I already had it since I saw the OP. I actually saw Sonny and Cher perform the song live when it was a hit. She forgot the words.

 

[shemp]

The vermin does not fall far from the tree.

 

[Stacyhs]

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they haven't engaged in some financial illegalities. After all, they've been taught by the best; their father. I have no doubt the Mueller investigation will turn up some illegal financial (if not other) shenanigans. Trump can't help but cheat in his taxes just like he's cheated in all his marriages. It's his state of mind: he is so much smarter than anyone else and his narcissism whispers in his ears that non-cheaters just aren't as smart as he is.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

I use to believe that Ivanka was a class act.

Which just goes to show a) how much better she is than the rest of her family at protecting her image, and b) how much the press and public tend to treat her with kid gloves - seemingly based on buying in to that image and a sort of ingrained, low-key sexism where they can't quite believe that a woman who's young and pretty could be knowingly complicit in such things, the delicate little flower.

See also: Hope Hicks.

 

[Bikewer]

Reporting on NPR’s Fresh Air last week pretty well destroys the image of Trump as a “self-made man”... With his father transferring over 200 million to the young lad, listing him as an employee with a whole handful of “jobs” while still a kid.

 

[Mumbles]

I mean, I told y'all that a while ago. And a lot of other people around NYC were saying so before I was. Those stories should have come out before the RNC convention, really.


ETA: I said right from the start that had they not been born into their families, GWB would likely be a group manager at a company - maybe he'd run a store or some such, and Cheeto Benito would've been a 3 card monty dealer that ended up getting stabbed to death decades ago.

 

[acbytesla]

Reporting on NPR’s Fresh Air last week pretty well destroys the image of Trump as a “self-made man”... With his father transferring over 200 million to the young lad, listing him as an employee with a whole handful of “jobs” while still a kid.

The idea that Trump is a businessman is a joke. He's a lucky sperm and a grifter. Always conning some yokel out of his money. A trail of bankruptcies. Trump leaves behind a trail of misery while all the time enriching himself. Why anyone believes that pig is beyond me.

 

[Jack Rainbow]

up to speed

hi, I don't have anything to contribute and don't want to argue about trump. But am not sure why he's accused of being a grifter and a liar. Would you be allowed to call me those names on this site? Probably not, I think you might get a caution. So can you give me some evidence of trump's crimes, please? You know, like urls to an irrefutable and respected source, or some other kind of verified evidence that he has committed crimes? I promise to read it avidly.

 

[Craig4]

Reporting on NPR’s Fresh Air last week pretty well destroys the image of Trump as a “self-made man”... With his father transferring over 200 million to the young lad, listing him as an employee with a whole handful of “jobs” while still a kid.

I doubt many people believed the "self-made man" lie to begin with.

 

[acbytesla]

hi, I don't have anything to contribute and don't want to argue about trump. But am not sure why he's accused of being a grifter and a liar. Would you be allowed to call me those names on this site? Probably not, I think you might get a caution. So can you give me some evidence of trump's crimes, please? You know, like urls to an irrefutable and respected source, or some other kind of verified evidence that he has committed crimes? I promise to read it avidly.

I provided links. See the original post. There is a massive amount of evidence to support it. All you need is Google and a willingness to look.

 

[fagin]

hi, I don't have anything to contribute and don't want to argue about trump. But am not sure why he's accused of being a grifter and a liar. Would you be allowed to call me those names on this site? Probably not, I think you might get a caution. So can you give me some evidence of trump's crimes, please? You know, like urls to an irrefutable and respected source, or some other kind of verified evidence that he has committed crimes? I promise to read it avidly.

Seriously? Do you live in a cave? He lies about everything.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-or-misleading-claims/?utm_term=.60cc02898009

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm_term=.7f9c40613002


There was a link upthread. Rather long, but:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

And no, unless you actually are a grifter or a liar, I couldn't call you those things on this site. You are a member and it's against the rules.

Trump isn't (as far as I know.) If he is he can report me to the mods for calling him a lying, cheating, pussy grabbing, misogynistic, slimy, racist, mushroom dicked, ignorant, narcissistic bastard.

And that's being charitable.

 

[varwoche]

hi, I don't have anything to contribute and don't want to argue about trump. But am not sure why he's accused of being a grifter and a liar. Would you be allowed to call me those names on this site? Probably not, I think you might get a caution. So can you give me some evidence of trump's crimes, please? You know, like urls to an irrefutable and respected source, or some other kind of verified evidence that he has committed crimes? I promise to read it avidly.

I urge you to reconsider your screen name. The mods will change it for you if you ask nicely. Hurry, Rip Van Winkle isn't taken.

... Trump isn't (as far as I know.) If he is he can report me to the mods for calling him a lying, cheating, pussy grabbing, misogynistic, slimy, racist, mushroom dicked, ignorant, narcissistic bastard.

I'm a tad bit disappointed by your omission of dotard.