The Skunk Conspiracy

[sadhatter]

Okay, so i have been reading a lot of conspiracy stuff lately, and i think that i have it down. And have discovered a disturbing conspiracy taking place in my home province.

For those not in the know in ontario it is illegal to keep a skunk as a pet. The fake reason the government gives is that there is a lot of wild skunks , and people could tend to take them and attempt to sell them as domesticated skunks.

And they expect us to believe that?

First, there are plenty of wild cats in Ontario, and the practice of selling them to pet stores is rather common.....but not stopped from a legal standpoint. Strange if a major concern is the selling of wild animals to pet stores.

Second, we have mice, and rats a plenty, and what else do they sell at pet stores? That is right mice and rats , as well this is another are where pet stores flaunt the law and buy wild animals. Yet again we see no enforcement of these laws that are supposedly there to protect us.

Third, skunk farms for fur are perfectly legal. So they have no problem with skunks, even in large numbers , just people owning them and not skinning them.

Now why would the government be doing this? Well i don't really know, but i am going to throw something against the wall and see if it sticks, i mean i am just asking questions.

http://animals.howstuffworks.com/pets/live-longer-with-a-pet.htm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7065794/

Now read the above articles and it may start to become clear.

For those not in the know a deglanded skunk is a rather useful pet, and can be trained to preform a variety of tasks that , lets say a cat would not be able to. So who would the target market for a pet that is not only cute, but can actually fetch you a snack if need be?

That is right, the skeptics, the rationalists, and anyone else who prefers reason.

This is becoming a rather dark road.

From the evidence presented we can confirm there is no real danger of skunks being sold to pet stores from the wild, and if there is it is not something the lawmakers are actually concerned about. And this could only mean this is a concentrated effort by either the illumaniti, the nwo, the joos, or some other evil agency to lower the life expectancy of skeptics.

This is one of the most sinister, well hidden crimes in history. But i am just one guy, there are more layers to the skunk conspiracy, and i beeseach you as beacons of the truth to go out and research this dark plot.

"Don't Let The Nwo Ban Me"

 

[Alferd_Packer]

"I am zhooting at you with de ack ack of love!"

---Pepe lePew.

 

[sadhatter]

"I am zhooting at you with de ack ack of love!"

---Pepe lePew.

Another example of anti skunk propaganda, of course the skunk character has to be a hair away from being a rapist. I think that this conspiracy goes back further than recent times.

 

[switchpoint]

Listen, I don't know how serious you are about this, but down my way - Pennsylvania - wild skunks and raccoons have the highest rate of rabies of all wild animals because they interact the most with domesticated animals.

They are still wild animals, even if raised in captivity, and can be dangerous. Skunks may look cute but they have claws and teeth and can be very defensive.

 

[sadhatter]

Listen, I don't know how serious you are about this, but down my way - Pennsylvania - wild skunks and raccoons have the highest rate of rabies of all wild animals because they interact the most with domesticated animals.

They are still wild animals, even if raised in captivity, and can be dangerous. Skunks may look cute but they have claws and teeth and can be very defensive.

But the same can be said for any animal, i mean horses for example kill more people in a year than skunks, yet there is no ban in ontario on horses.

And i find it very interesting that in your state a pet skunk is legal even though they have such a high percentage of rabies in the wild. Again, i can see the evil wheels working in my province , i mean just look at the facts. Even in areas where they pose a threat they are still allowed, but for some reason they are banned here. The question is what does this mean, is this a specific attack on the rationalists in my province, and if so why? This rabbit hole goes deeper than we thought.


( and as in answer to your question, realistically i am not a fan of the law, but as you guessed this is somewhat of a parody thread. Intended to display how if one feels strongly about an issue it is very easy to surmise a conspiracy. All that being said though, the law i feel is silly. A domesticated skunk is no more dangerous than a domesticated large dog. )

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

If this thread has to be anywhere, it should be in the Humor (sic) forum. Though, IMHO, it is very poor humour and parody. The law does not just apply to skunks -- it applies to the keeping of all native wild animals. The reasons can be found by Googling.

Dogs have a few millennia of being bred for interaction with humans. Skunks, beavers, squirrels, and etc do not.

 

[sadhatter]

If this thread has to be anywhere, it should be in the Humor (sic) forum. Though, IMHO, it is very poor humour and parody. The law does not just apply to skunks -- it applies to the keeping of all native wild animals. The reasons can be found by Googling.

Dogs have a few millennia of being bred for interaction with humans. Skunks, beavers, squirrels, and etc do not.

But dosn't it seem strange to you that Ontario is one of the few places in the world that has this particular law? I could go to almost any other province and get a skunk ( let alone the rest of the world.), nothing about this seems fishy to you?

( on a serious note though, people have been domesticating skunks for quite some time, i, even in a humor sense am not advocating getting one from the wild. It would be about as smart as getting a pet mountain lion. A wild animal is a wild animal, but there are many skunk breeders who have been in the buisness quite some time , and thousands if not millions of people who have kept pet skunks without incident. And to the best of my knowledge no one has been killed by a domesticated skunk, while i am sure it would take me no longer than 5 minutes to find an article about someone being killed by a domesticated dog. )

 

[switchpoint]

But dosn't it seem strange to you that Ontario is one of the few places in the world that has this particular law? I could go to almost any other province and get a skunk ( let alone the rest of the world.), nothing about this seems fishy to you?

( on a serious note though, people have been domesticating skunks for quite some time, i, even in a humor sense am not advocating getting one from the wild. It would be about as smart as getting a pet mountain lion. A wild animal is a wild animal, but there are many skunk breeders who have been in the buisness quite some time , and thousands if not millions of people who have kept pet skunks without incident. And to the best of my knowledge no one has been killed by a domesticated skunk, while i am sure it would take me no longer than 5 minutes to find an article about someone being killed by a domesticated dog. )

I see your point about the fabrication of "conspiracies" out of just about anything. What I don't get sometime is you never here about the real conspiracies and they happen every day - most of the time all you have to do is pick up your local paper.

In Pennsylvania we had a real doozy. A couple of judges in family and juvenile court had conspired with the owners/operators of a privately run prison to sentence juveniles for minor offenses to prison time and then were getting kickbacks. This isn't "controlled demolition" this is the real stuff. Prison time, guilty pleas, loss of license, etc.

But you'll never find a conspiracy site dedicated to rooting out this kind of garbage - I guess its not sexy enough. I guess what Tip O'Neill (former speaker of the US House of Representatives) is true about politics "all politics is local" and conspiracies.

 

[sadhatter]

I see your point about the fabrication of "conspiracies" out of just about anything. What I don't get sometime is you never here about the real conspiracies and they happen every day - most of the time all you have to do is pick up your local paper.

In Pennsylvania we had a real doozy. A couple of judges in family and juvenile court had conspired with the owners/operators of a privately run prison to sentence juveniles for minor offenses to prison time and then were getting kickbacks. This isn't "controlled demolition" this is the real stuff. Prison time, guilty pleas, loss of license, etc.

But you'll never find a conspiracy site dedicated to rooting out this kind of garbage - I guess its not sexy enough. I guess what Tip O'Neill (former speaker of the US House of Representatives) is true about politics "all politics is local" and conspiracies.

I agree, the problem is all conspriacies are driven by someones personal beef, and even a legitimate issue may get overblown into a farcical melodrama.

And there is always sketchy stuff going on, but its not the type of thing that gets a hollywood movie , so its just not something that your average 18 year old is going to spend half their day googling.

As kind of a side note, i am kinda playing with the idea of making a legit thread about skunks in another forum, mostly because i would like to adress a couple of points in a non over the top manner.

Well screw it,

The domestication of skunks has been going on for quite some time, it was native Americans who perfected how to degland a skunk, long before the first whites came by. And it was fairly common for pilgrims to keep pet skunks for their ability to take out rodents ( they while lacking hooked claws, are a bit tougher in a fight than a feline.). For anyone with some free time there is a pbs documentary about the misunderstood nature of skunks.

That is pretty much the only serious thing i wanted to say, back to poking fun at conspiracies.

 

[switchpoint]

Now that you mention it there was a girl in junior high school, Mary, who was obsessed with a getting a pet skunk and she would go on and on about how they were good pets, how you can have them degland and declawed, etc and of course I would listen for hours because I too was obsessed, but my obsession was with Mary's....

 

[sadhatter]

Now that you mention it there was a girl in junior high school, Mary, who was obsessed with a getting a pet skunk and she would go on and on about how they were good pets, how you can have them degland and declawed, etc and of course I would listen for hours because I too was obsessed, but my obsession was with Mary's....

It kinda made me laugh, i was browsing some skunk related sites a while ago, and apparently creationists love them, something about them living longer after being deglanded meaning god made them to be pets, all i have to do now is come up with a sweet fundamentalist name and story, and lead a bunch of christians on a righteous crusade to stop this tyrany that is oppressing my province, lol.

 

[switchpoint]

It kinda made me laugh, i was browsing some skunk related sites a while ago, and apparently creationists love them, something about them living longer after being deglanded meaning god made them to be pets, all i have to do now is come up with a sweet fundamentalist name and story, and lead a bunch of christians on a righteous crusade to stop this tyrany that is oppressing my province, lol.

I often considered trying to start a conspiracy rumor and see how well it would take off, considered it as a project in sociology class in college. Then predict some simple demographics about those would embrace it.

Even thought about trying to come up with a new angle on the 9/11 stuff but being a basically moral and ethical person prohibited me from doing that.

 

[sadhatter]

I often considered trying to start a conspiracy rumor and see how well it would take off, considered it as a project in sociology class in college. Then predict some simple demographics about those would embrace it.

Even thought about trying to come up with a new angle on the 9/11 stuff but being a basically moral and ethical person prohibited me from doing that.

There is my problem, i was going to go all out with this thread, but last thing i would want is for some ct nut to take it seriously. Then when i admitted that i was just screwin around i would get accused of being under someone or somethings thumb.

The problem is people will believe anything if it synchs up with what they want to believe, most of the time. I am sure if i posted this on a separate website, as if i truley meant it, i would have a giant mailing list of skunk ct'ers in no time.

 

[switchpoint]

There is my problem, i was going to go all out with this thread, but last thing i would want is for some ct nut to take it seriously. Then when i admitted that i was just screwin around i would get accused of being under someone or somethings thumb.

The problem is people will believe anything if it synchs up with what they want to believe, most of the time. I am sure if i posted this on a separate website, as if i truley meant it, i would have a giant mailing list of skunk ct'ers in no time.

Yes, it gets weirder and weirder as some of these CT's start to wind down. You are seeing the last desparate howls of CTer's who thought they were going to get a piece of the action, you know - books, websites, lectures, etc. but know that there is little interest in the public sphere and in most of our popular culture "inside job" = "tinfoil hat", which is only appropriate.

So what we are starting to see now is the slight rise of CT's about Ct's. Cter's are promoting the conspiracy theory that conspiracy theories involving mini-nukes, holograms, space beams, etc. are actaully being generate by a vast conspiracy in order to defame, well, conspiracy theories. I've been shown on this site that it is refered to as being Poe'd. But now its even getting looney than that.

On another site I am watching two CTer's going after each other because the Flight 93 shoot down folks and the No Crash in Shanksville whackos realize that they can't both be right (even though one of the "shoot downs" is desparately parsing his words so that he can kind of have it his way - or more importantly - make sure he doesn't openly admit that I am right and that Flight 93 did crash in Shanksville).

In so far as starting new CT's - the internet, I think, is becoming a real double edge sword. On the one hand, it has made it very easy for anyone to mass communicate, but at the same time it is also a wonderful debunking tool. I guess the secret would be to start a CT that was immune to internet research, something that you would have to go to a physical source to confirm or deny and I am hard pressed to think of anything that would be of either general or specific interest.

 

[sadhatter]

Yes, it gets weirder and weirder as some of these CT's start to wind down. You are seeing the last desparate howls of CTer's who thought they were going to get a piece of the action, you know - books, websites, lectures, etc. but know that there is little interest in the public sphere and in most of our popular culture "inside job" = "tinfoil hat", which is only appropriate.

So what we are starting to see now is the slight rise of CT's about Ct's. Cter's are promoting the conspiracy theory that conspiracy theories involving mini-nukes, holograms, space beams, etc. are actaully being generate by a vast conspiracy in order to defame, well, conspiracy theories. I've been shown on this site that it is refered to as being Poe'd. But now its even getting looney than that.

On another site I am watching two CTer's going after each other because the Flight 93 shoot down folks and the No Crash in Shanksville whackos realize that they can't both be right (even though one of the "shoot downs" is desparately parsing his words so that he can kind of have it his way - or more importantly - make sure he doesn't openly admit that I am right and that Flight 93 did crash in Shanksville).

In so far as starting new CT's - the internet, I think, is becoming a real double edge sword. On the one hand, it has made it very easy for anyone to mass communicate, but at the same time it is also a wonderful debunking tool. I guess the secret would be to start a CT that was immune to internet research, something that you would have to go to a physical source to confirm or deny and I am hard pressed to think of anything that would be of either general or specific interest.

Well you could take something kinda wierd, like lets say glow in the dark stickers, or silly putty or something kid related. Make up an ingredient that is not really in it, say it is then play the whole poisoning our children card. I think that would probably get us a couple of laughs, and a scum bag a half million bucks.

 

[switchpoint]

Well you could take something kinda wierd, like lets say glow in the dark stickers, or silly putty or something kid related. Make up an ingredient that is not really in it, say it is then play the whole poisoning our children card. I think that would probably get us a couple of laughs, and a scum bag a half million bucks.

Don't like scaring kids or young parents. Real life is scary enough.

How about this one. We start a rumor that a car manufacturer with a long history of making the most reliable cars in the world has a problem with their most popular models, specifically that they accelerate unstoppably without warning resulting in death and injury?

Ooops, never mind.

How about this one:

The Gold Strike:

Go on some forum and write that a close relative was fishing in a creek in a State Park and dropped a lure in the water. When he went to pick up what he thought was his shinny lure it turned out to be a gold nugget. Then go on to say that he found six more about the size of a golfball but he won't tell you where because its on government land and the government would just shut down the park and take the gold so he is going to keep it secret and go back for more.

Or any conspiracy that would scare people out of talking on their cell phones while driving. That would be fun and useful.

 

[sadhatter]

Don't like scaring kids or young parents. Real life is scary enough.

How about this one. We start a rumor that a car manufacturer with a long history of making the most reliable cars in the world has a problem with their most popular models, specifically that they accelerate unstoppably without warning resulting in death and injury?

Ooops, never mind.

How about this one:

The Gold Strike:

Go on some forum and write that a close relative was fishing in a creek in a State Park and dropped a lure in the water. When he went to pick up what he thought was his shinny lure it turned out to be a gold nugget. Then go on to say that he found six more about the size of a golfball but he won't tell you where because its on government land and the government would just shut down the park and take the gold so he is going to keep it secret and go back for more.

Or any conspiracy that would scare people out of talking on their cell phones while driving. That would be fun and useful.

You know what the sad thing is, i bet a good portion of real money making conspiracy theories started in relatively the same way as this. Once you realize the type of things people fall for it is painfully easy to get them to do it.

 

[switchpoint]

You know what the sad thing is, i bet a good portion of real money making conspiracy theories started in relatively the same way as this. Once you realize the type of things people fall for it is painfully easy to get them to do it.

Oh, absolutely. Back to the cell phones - remember when the rumor was around that talking on them could give you brain cancer? Oh, everyone was in a real tizzy over that. But tell them talking on their cell phones while driving could result in your instant death and the death of innocent others and they ignore. Reality is never a lot of fun.

Maybe tie cell phone use to the acceleration problem in Toyota. Just remind people that one of the stated reasons you're not supposed to use your cell phones on airplanes is because of the potential to interfer with plane operations.

 

[sadhatter]

Oh, absolutely. Back to the cell phones - remember when the rumor was around that talking on them could give you brain cancer? Oh, everyone was in a real tizzy over that. But tell them talking on their cell phones while driving could result in your instant death and the death of innocent others and they ignore. Reality is never a lot of fun.

Maybe tie cell phone use to the acceleration problem in Toyota. Just remind people that one of the stated reasons you're not supposed to use your cell phones on airplanes is because of the potential to interfer with plane operations.

Yeah when i was working for sprint that was a big thing, we had people constantly calling in and asking us about the cell phone brain cancer things. And then getting angry when we gave them the information that showed it to be false. ( we used to have a standard link we gave them.)

I think people just have a tendency to jump on a band wagon if there is a possibility of them being hurt. I mean there has never been a conspiracy about people getting free kittens.

( Well actually there was when i worked for MCI , but that is a weird kind of long story. )

 

[LightinDarkness]

If this thread has to be anywhere, it should be in the Humor (sic) forum. Though, IMHO, it is very poor humour and parody. The law does not just apply to skunks -- it applies to the keeping of all native wild animals. The reasons can be found by Googling.

Dogs have a few millennia of being bred for interaction with humans. Skunks, beavers, squirrels, and etc do not.

You are clearly a member of the NWO anti-skunk campaign, posting disinfo like this and trying to get the op silenced! FIGHT THE MAN, OP!