The real alien conspiracy

[sonjouten]

The universe is vast.. bigger than anyone knows.. that life only exists on earth is ludicrous.. but there's things you have to accept before you can truly believe ufo's are aliens from distant worlds.. for one thing any ufo that's spotted on earth most likely originated from earth. (By my estimates 5% of ufo sightings are unexplainable, and of that 5 about 90% are advanced devices created by "super terrestrial beings)

Why do i believe that? Well i believe in evolution. Evolution is not the black and white timeline that the media would have you believe. Humans didn't come from apes, humans and apes descend from a common ancestor millions of years ago.

Time for a history lesson.. primates came from a rat like mammal that flourished after the dinosaurs extinction, leading also to the birds and other reptiles that are still alive today.. but are those the only things that survived?

I doubt it. Considering that even the most extreme extinction events humans can survive (70%+ that humanity will survive being able to reproduce albeit with a genetic bottlenecks) and the fact that reptiles are far more adaptive than we are as humans, and their genetic line has been active much longer than ours (millions of years) i think it would be naive to completely dismiss the possibility that they achieved sentient sapienism long before us. Their devices and their bodies looking very "alien" to us (theyre closer related to reptiles than humans).

They obviously have no desire to "kill" us.. though that could be synonymous with our lack of desire to "kill" cows. They've known of us for hundreds of thousands of years, probably influenced our evolution as well(seeds for religion come to mind), though most of them are actually quite indifferent to humans in general.

The reptilian super terrestrial (probably what people perceive as the greys) are likely not the only ones here, but they seem to be the most dominant. The others unaware of each other or also as indifferent.

Where are they located? Thats the easy part. They're in the ocean. You ever hear about high incidents of Soviet uso's?(unidentified submerged objects) the ocean is so vast, weve only explored 5% maybe.. and if we ever found their colonies we either wouldn't know thats what it is or they wouldn't let us tell anyone.. (Bermuda triangle comes to mind)
Are they aggressive? I doubt it. But they obviously have some kind of influence on us, for better or worse..

 

[MikeG]

Oh christ alive. More crap, as if we don't quite have enough at the moment.









Er................welcome to the forum. Sort of. I hope your stay enlightens you somewhat.

 

[sonjouten]

Oh christ alive. More crap, as if we don't quite have enough at the moment.









Er................welcome to the forum. Sort of. I hope your stay enlightens you somewhat.

How is this belief crap? Its actually quite plausible considering the widely held belief in evolution and the distances between planets. Though advanced aliens from other planets could possibly make the trip, unless theyre aggressive why would they bother? It makes much more sense that this would be their home, as it is ours. Like i said though i don't think they're aggressive, and in all likelihood influenced the creation of most if not all major religions.

(Its not like im saying aliens don't exist. I believe quite the opposite, i think "life" is actually quite common place, existing in some form on all the planets most of the moons and even the sun, it being either too primative or too advanced for us to define it as such. But any of them gaining sentience and making the trip here seems unlikely unless theyre here to kill us, and given the fact so many people of high professional trust (military, ex presidents, police officers) claiming to see ufos, you cant dismiss them entirely.

 

[Maurice Ledifficile]

How is this belief crap? Its actually quite plausible considering the widely held belief in evolution and the distances between planets. Though advanced aliens from other planets could possibly make the trip, unless theyre aggressive why would they bother? It makes much more sense that this would be their home, as it is ours. Like i said though i don't think they're aggressive, and in all likelihood influenced the creation of most if not all major religions.

(Its not like im saying aliens don't exist. I believe quite the opposite, i think "life" is actually quite common place, existing in some form on all the planets most of the moons and even the sun, it being either too primative or too advanced for us to define it as such. But any of them gaining sentience and making the trip here seems unlikely unless theyre here to kill us, and given the fact so many people of high professional trust (military, ex presidents, police officers) claiming to see ufos, you cant dismiss them entirely.

Anecdotes are not evidence, regardless of the source. No evidence = no aliens.

 

[sonjouten]

They're not aliens, theyre evolved sentient reptiloids. Evidence comes from the statistics that were much more likely to spot an advanced species at home than we are at their destination. Since theyve evolved to their current state from over 30-50 million years ago to reside in the ocean it would be very difficult to find them in our fossil records. From what i can tell them and other advanced species have mastered space/time compression allowing them to fit a city into the size of a matchbox. This is what causes the fermi paradox because advanced civilizations no longer impact an entire planet, with their populous actually residing in a spatial small dimension that wed never see through telescopes. (Also allowing them to evolve much faster because the flow of time is faster inside than out, what do you think neutron stars are? Suns mass inside 7 miles.. Sounds alien to me) i don't see actual aliens coming here unless they have "business" or are here to conquer.

 

[GlennB]

Where are they located? Thats the easy part. They're in the ocean.

Why, when the surface is so much easier to live on? They have high tech and industries presumably (to manufacture the UFOs) and that's a hard trick to pull underwater. In fact it's so difficult it would be utterly perverse even to try.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

"sentient reptiloids" is redundant. All great mutant fire-breathing lizard-thingies are sentient, and far more intelligent than mere humans. Get over it, monkeys.

 

[sonjouten]

"sentient reptiloids" is redundant. All great mutant fire-breathing lizard-thingies are sentient, and far more intelligent than mere humans. Get over it, monkeys.

Lol. Glad to see at least mild support for my theory. I mean if you go by statistics its much more likely than ufos being extra terrestrial in origin. Reptiles evolved much earlier than primates and to think they didn't reach a level near our current in the past is very arrogant.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Lol. Glad to see at least mild support for my theory.

Not even mild, amigo.

I mean if you go by statistics its much more likely than ufos being extra terrestrial in origin. Reptiles evolved much earlier than primates and to think they didn't reach a level near our current in the past is very arrogant.

You might want to try abovetopsecret.com, they're your cup of tea.

 

[Hans]

Not even mild, amigo.
You might want to try abovetopsecret.com, they're your cup of tea.

Well they have tons of this types of 'stuff' he might want to try Unexplained Mysteries or the Graham Hancock forums where the weird and unscientific is more appreciated as they get less of it.

 

[sonjouten]

I like it here more, i like the sceptical element here. But based on what ive seen in my life and my studies of such things ufos coming from earth seems more likely. Carter Clinton Reagan all had documented encounters with ufos and/or spoke publicly about them. If i recall when Clinton asked about them he was told "it's best if you don't know." Id say if/when humans actually employ spacetime compression theyll make themselves known to us, deeming us "worthy", if nothing else to prevent us from destroying the planet.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Bye.

 

[Maurice Ledifficile]

They're not aliens, theyre evolved sentient reptiloids. Evidence comes from the statistics that were much more likely to spot an advanced species at home than we are at their destination. Since theyve evolved to their current state from over 30-50 million years ago to reside in the ocean it would be very difficult to find them in our fossil records. From what i can tell them and other advanced species have mastered space/time compression allowing them to fit a city into the size of a matchbox. This is what causes the fermi paradox because advanced civilizations no longer impact an entire planet, with their populous actually residing in a spatial small dimension that wed never see through telescopes. (Also allowing them to evolve much faster because the flow of time is faster inside than out, what do you think neutron stars are? Suns mass inside 7 miles.. Sounds alien to me) i don't see actual aliens coming here unless they have "business" or are here to conquer.

That's a lot of assertions with no evidence. There is no evidence of sentient reptiloids. Stories don't count.

 

[sonjouten]

You completely discount my belief but do not give any legitimate criticism, no narrow mindedness there. None at all.

 

[sonjouten]

Study the matter on your own, come to your own conclusions. I already have mine.
I truly don't see how this wasn't considered before in respect to ufos, it doesn't make sense for aliens to waste energy coming here, i don't even waste gas to goto the store.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

@sonjouten,

Go thou and read lots of Science Fiction. You have not posted one original idea and it is an amusing story. But story is all it is. Argument from Incredulity and Argument_from_ignorance^WP in general will not get you very far in this Forum.

But welcome just the same.

 

[Crossbow]

Study the matter on your own, come to your own conclusions. I already have mine.
I truly don't see how this wasn't considered before in respect to ufos, it doesn't make sense for aliens to waste energy coming here, i don't even waste gas to goto the store.

Wow! How incredibly amazing.

A while ago I was in desperate need of gas money to go to the store because I really needed to replace my Care Bear Jammies and buy that new game for my PS4. Anyway, some nice sentient reptiloids heard about my problem and they gave me a few bucks for the gas money that I needed.

I suggest that you contact your local sentient reptiloid to see if he can spot you the gas money that you need.

Good luck.

 

[JayUtah]

You completely discount my belief but do not give any legitimate criticism...

You give no evidence. You point to what you say is a hole in the extraterrestrial hypothesis for UFOs, handwave a bunch of speculation regarding evolution, and then declare that UFOs are being flown by super intelligent lizards living at the bottom of the ocean.

No leaping to conclusions there. No, none at all.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Wow! How incredibly amazing.

A while ago I was in desperate need of gas money to go to the store because I really needed to replace my Care Bear Jammies and buy that new game for my PS4. Anyway, some nice sentient reptiloids heard about my problem and they gave me a few bucks for the gas money that I needed.

I suggest that you contact your local sentient reptiloid to see if he can spot you the gas money that you need.

Good luck.

Funny, I was just thinking "because my Mom wastes gas to go to the store."

 

[sonjouten]

Well thanks i guess. Truth is i am here to learn, i want to see how entirely implausible it is because based on what i know it seems the most likeliest of occurrence. Also it does show a lot about mans narcissist nature to dismiss it without knowing all the answers simply because to believe they came from the same earth, almost same circumstances as we did, that maybe were truly not made in gods image at all.. and/or that were not as special as we think we are. Thats hard for most people to accept even amongst athiests.