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The Professor's paranormal proof?

Azrael 5

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Azrael 5
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As it may be off topic for the MDC thread,I'll stick it here for now.The Professor states,he has made paranormal predictions previously and will be doing again on some internet radio show this Sunday.
He also claims the Devil's chair in Florida is a portal for spirits.I'd like to see evidence for any of these claims in this thread if possible.

Although I guess anyone can make a paranormal prediction-having it come true is totally different. :rolleyes:
 
Drs_Res said:
So, what is the difference between a prediction and a paranormal prediction?
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Prediction: The Professor says, "There will be an earthquake in Utah tomorrow!"
Paranormal Prediction: The ghost of The Professor says, "There will be an earthquake in Utah tomorrow!"
 
According to Magic Cafe post of his,he has had a psychic prediction that is already beginning to come true.I'm guessing he will claim this is the MDC.
 
Azrael 5 said:
As it may be off topic for the MDC thread,I'll stick it here for now.The Professor states,he has made paranormal predictions previously and will be doing again on some internet radio show this Sunday.
He also claims the Devil's chair in Florida is a portal for spirits.I'd like to see evidence for any of these claims in this thread if possible.

Although I guess anyone can make a paranormal prediction-having it come true is totally different. :rolleyes:
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To quote Shakespeare
1 Henry IV, Owen Glendower: "I can call monsters from the vasty deep" to which Hotspur replies "Why, so can I and so can any man, but do they come when you do call for them?"
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Azrael 5 said:
According to Magic Cafe post of his,he has had a psychic prediction that is already beginning to come true.I'm guessing he will claim this is the MDC.
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My guess is, if he can't predict wether he will pass the test or not then there's no case here.
 
Ron_Tomkins said:
My guess is, if he can't predict wether he will pass the test or not then there's no case here.
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I'm sure like so many other purported prognosticators he is, conveniently, unable to perform on command. Thus I doubt he will predict anything we ask of him.
 
Surely a paranormal prediction would be less work, and cheaper, than the "Devils Chair" shenanigans on Halloween? Apply with the claim, "I can predict a future (certain time frame) event", make the prediction, do it again, collect the million. The fact that he hasn't done this makes me think even more that his MDC application is nothing more than a publicity stunt.

Chris
 
In fairness to Mr. Koenig, he did eventually arrive at what appears to be a testable claim.

~ Matt
 
I'm not sure that's true Matt. He was spoonfed. Someone else proposed a testable claim, and he put it forward as his own, because he was left with no other option. The time limit for his claim submission had practically expired.

It would be fairer to say that he has "submitted" a testable claim...but it certainly wasn't his own, and seemed to have no input from his team of writers that he's been on about for weeks.

Cheers,

Chris
 
On September 27th Prof wrote on Magic Cafe
I am, in fact going to the Devil's Chair again today for more experimentation.

I've been told that others might post video's and tape recordings of my previous successes there.
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Previous success? Well you must have held back this piece of evidence from us all.I don't see it anywhere.
Who told you of these others? WHo are they ,and where are the tapes and videos?
I say you aren't telling the truth Dave Koenig.
ETA: On subject of previous success,you claim you can only do this feat once a year.Considering you only first went to the Devil's chair in June this year,and you were wanting to perform again at Halloween(which makes it twice a year)how does this work?

"Previous successes" indicates more than one success,with a once of year ability that is pretty impressive.So are you claiming you can do more than one paranormal ability in this case?
 
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I get mixed up with what is on topic for what thread lately,but on the internet radio show yesterday TP's latest paranormal prediction was thus "The band Broadway star will be huge in US and UK I feel.."

Anyone see anything paranormal in this,even IF this came to pass? Looks like a 50/50 guess to me.Considering it's TP's Son who is in the band which Father wouldn't predict this(especially after they get a deal with influential people already)

If this is what passes for paranormal abilities Dave F Koneig Id consider giving up talk of winning the million. :)
 
Azrael 5 said:
I get mixed up with what is on topic for what thread lately,but on the internet radio show yesterday TP's latest paranormal prediction was thus "The band Broadway star will be huge in US and UK I feel.."

Anyone see anything paranormal in this,even IF this came to pass? Looks like a 50/50 guess to me.Considering it's TP's Son who is in the band which Father wouldn't predict this(especially after they get a deal with influential people already)

If this is what passes for paranormal abilities Dave F Koneig Id consider giving up talk of winning the million. :)
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So perhaps there was no need for yet another of these threads.
Perhaps people should leave those making claims to start their own threads on the topic.
 
The last thing I want is for the JREF Forum to be flooded with threads about Mr Koenig. But it is quite interesting that his paranormal claims are proven quite quickly to be anything but. He refers to the Broadway Calls prediction as "a genuine, bona fide, paranormal prediction" on the radio show where he made it. The host acts vague, and The Professor seems sketchy on the details. Later, on The Magic Cafe, Mr Koening openly admitted that his son is the bass player for Broadway Calls, and that Jeramiah (the host) knows the band also.

Which got me thinking. Either Broadway Calls have signed a record deal, and are doing well at the moment, starting to build themselves a bit of a fanbase - and Daddy decided to get some free publicity out of them. Or, Mr Koenig is just giving the band a bit of a plug on an Internet radio show listened to by dozens of people all over the world.

Either way, it's self evident that this was set up, and is hardly paranormal. Reminds me of the boy who cried wolf. If he lied about his bigfoot "prediction", and his latest prediction has been proven a setup also, what's to say his next "paranormal" event (the MDC) won't be fraudulent as well?

Chris
 
GuerrillaMagic said:
I'm not sure that's true Matt. He was spoonfed. Someone else proposed a testable claim, and he put it forward as his own, because he was left with no other option. The time limit for his claim submission had practically expired.
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You are right, of course.

I think TP has a problem with words or thinking straight. Whenever he tried to present a claim of his own, it was constantly couched in unacceptable terms that left doubt if his claim was really paranormal. He is used to publish programmes of his magic performances, where it is paramount not to describe what is actually going on, and could not adapt to describing a test where he had to tell exactly what was going on.

I was disappointed that his original idea of using many different languages got lost in the process. My suggestion that a language was included that he could not know in advance made him immediately drop the languages from the claim, which to me is a sure indication that he knew he could not not trick his way past that obstacle.
 
I too thought the unknown language idea was a good one. There have been many great ideas over in the claim/protocol thread that have been ignored by The Professor. Whilst I predicted it from day one, the longer this goes on, the more I think that it will never happen. What is disappointing is that the test seems to have been put off until next Halloween, so we've got another year worth of this circus to look forward to.

Chris
 
*sigh*
I will be saying this in my sleep.....

Do not discuss the protocol for a claim anywhere outside of its thread in the MDC section.
 
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