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The Problem of Rape Statistics

Nie Trink Wasser

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May 30, 2003

RALEIGH — A news article in The Daily Tar Heel April 24 contained a shocking lead: “A woman is raped every two minutes. Almost one in every four women between the ages of 18 and 24 is a survivor of sexual assault.”

No sources for this information are given — which is mildly surprising since it is published in the campus newspaper for the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, a UNC flagship university with a well-known school of journalism. It is not, however, unusual for any campus discussion of that particular subject. Here are a few examples just from the current academic year:

• “There are probably 200 to 250 undergraduate men on this campus who are rapists (one out of 15), based on a 15-year old survey. Fifteen percent of undergraduate men say they would commit rape if there was no chance of punishment.” Jillian Johnson, “Stop Rape at Duke,” Duke University Chronicle, Feb. 27, 2003

• “1 in 4 college women,” sign seen at UNC-Chapel Hill protest of violence against women, as reported in the DTH, Nov. 5, 2002

• “Anytime a woman is drunk and has sex, she has then been raped.” Andrew A. Farr, N.C. State Technician, Sept. 24, 2002

• “Every three hours and 52 minutes, a rape is committed in North Carolina. Most of the victims are women. One in four college women report surviving rape.” Dana Henderson, Technician, Sept. 10, 2002

• “I am 100 percent sure that at least one rape has occurred on campus since school has started ... anywhere from one in three to one in eight women will be assaulted in her lifetime.” Bryan Proffit, Technician, Aug. 27, 2002 (one week after school started)


What is going on? Are our universities undergoing an epidemic of curiously unreported rape? Or is something else at work? As Katie Rophie wrote in the New York Times Magazine of June 13, 1993, in response to the one-in-four statistic: “If 25 percent of my women friends were really being raped, wouldn’t I know it?”

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Politics intrude

The problem of the faulty statistics owes to “the intrusion of politics into the field of inquiry,” Sommers said. “There are many researchers who study rape victimization, but their relatively low figures generate no headlines.” Among them: a 1993 Louis Harris and Associates telephone poll that found only 2 percent of women were victims of rape or sexual assault; Professor Mary Gordon of the University of Washington’s 1981 study that found only one in 50 women raped; and Duke researcher Dr. Linda George, who found, using “questions very close to Kilpatrick’s” one in 17.

Another problem Sommers cites is “the morally indefensible way that public funds for combating rape are being allocated.” Specifically, “college women are getting the lion’s share of public resources for combating rape” despite studies (which she cites) showing that rape rates are far higher in poor areas than wealthy areas and far lower for women on a college or university campus than for women off campus.


Department of Justice Statistics :

Violent Crime -
http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/abstract/viocrm.htm

Violence Against Women - http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/abstract/femvied.htm
 
Reminds me about the alcoholism stats. Some people believe that if you ever "drink to excesss" then you are an alcoholic.

Apparently 90% of all college students are alchys!
 
Something unrelated. Ignore if you want to.

I don't like those "every 5 or so minutes blabla happens". If you have a large enough population something happening every 5 minutes or so doesn't need to be that much.

It's like "you eat blabla amount of sugar in your lifetime". Well, that number doesn't tell me anything. Without having anything to compare it to I have no idea at all how much it is. Sure it sounds much, but that's because it's over an entire lifetime.
 
Intimate Partner Violence


Highlights include the following:


Lethal

Intimate partners committed fewer murders in each of the 3 years 1996, 1997, and 1998 than in any other year since 1976.
Between 1976 and 1998, the number of male victims of intimate partner homicide fell an average 4% per year and the number of female victims fell an average 1%.


Nonlethal

The number of female victims of intimate violence declined from 1993 to 1998. In 1998 women experienced an estimated 876,340 violent offenses at the hands of an intimate, down from 1.1 million in 1993.
In both 1993 and 1998, men were victims of about 160,000 violent crimes by an intimate partner. violent crimes by an intimate partner.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/ipv.htm
 
I would assume that there are peaks in everything, certain times of the day seems to be more dangerous than others, like after school and before the parents get home, the DoJ shows that most victims of crime are children, and that most of it happens after school.
 
“If 25 percent of my women friends were really being raped, wouldn’t I know it?”

Not necessarily.

That stat. is for a certain age range, at a certain geographical location. Also, rape isn't exaclty something people talk about, even among best friends.

-Who
 
• “There are probably 200 to 250 undergraduate men on this campus who are rapists (one out of 15), based on a 15-year old survey. Fifteen percent of undergraduate men say they would commit rape if there was no chance of punishment.” Jillian Johnson, “Stop Rape at Duke,” Duke University Chronicle, Feb. 27, 2003

This is why it is so important to include how the question was asked in any serious inquiry. "If there was no chance of punishment" is quite an "if." When I ask my students to anonymously write on a piece of paper what they would do if they could be invisible (and otherwise undetectable--no blame, no credit for any action), by far the biggest response is "rob a bank." Are we to conclude that our financial institutions are in grave peril?

The "if there was no chance of punishment" study (I forget the original authors, but have it somewhere) has also been used extensively in the debate over pornography. Using it, researchers find a link between porn and rape. Using virtually any other measure, no such link is found.

Rape is serious. It deserves better research than this. Seriously, this sort of statistic is too easily debunked, and the critic is too likely to throw out good research with bad. Bad research like this study does indirect harm to the cause it wants to support.

(not familiar with the other research presented; I don't want to tar them all with the same brush.)
 

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