The Paranormal/Current Events Michael Jackson Poll

[Ed]

This coulda been in Paranormal (for multiple reasons) or even science (how DOES one get their skin so white?) but I opted for here because MJ is a unifing force among the many disparate elements that constitute this wonderful world of ours.

Black, whitened, white. Moslem, Jew, Christian, Atheist, Agnostic, Atheistic Agnostic, Animist, Diest, Wiccan. Whiney liberal, Nazi, Libertarian, Socialist, Capitolist, Democrat, Communist, Republican, Tory, Liberal, Screaming Anarchist, Maoist, Trotskyite, ... we can all agree that MJ has a screw loose somewhere.

So...early on during the court proceedings I invite you to test your legal insight and/or your clairvoiance and commit to electronic paper your wisdom, guess, speculation of what will be the outcome of the trial presently underway. Not the ultimate end, just the results of this trial.

I will attempt to identify reasonable, mutually exclusive catagories for your consideration.

I will also limit this poll to 10 days or so so that we are all operating from a similar knowledge base.

We will ressurect this poll when the trial ends and see how we did.

Now, isn't this fun and better than arguing with your siblings?

 

[Rob Lister]

This coulda been in Paranormal (for multiple reasons) or even science (how DOES one get their skin so white?) but I opted for here because MJ is a unifing force among the many disparate elements that constitute this wonderful world of ours.

Black, whitened, white. Moslem, Jew, Christian, Atheist, Agnostic, Atheistic Agnostic, Animist, Diest, Wiccan. Whiney liberal, Nazi, Libertarian, Socialist, Capitolist, Democrat, Communist, Republican, Tory, Liberal, Screaming Anarchist, Maoist, Trotskyite, ... we can all agree that MJ has a screw loose somewhere.

So...early on during the court proceedings I invite you to test your legal insight and/or your clairvoiance and commit to electronic paper your wisdom, guess, speculation of what will be the outcome of the trial presently underway. Not the ultimate end, just the results of this trial.

I will attempt to identify reasonable, mutually exclusive catagories for your consideration.

I will also limit this poll to 10 days or so so that we are all operating from a similar knowledge base.

We will ressurect this poll when the trial ends and see how we did.

Now, isn't this fun and better than arguing with your siblings?

I saw several likely options but I had to go with with suicide option for him. The Show he put on yesterday makes me think he needs some serious medical intervention...but not for his back/face/skin/body.

Regardless of the verdict, I think it is likely he will end up spending at least half the trial in a jail cell. He's very, very lucky he isn't in one today (again referring to yesterdays antics). Judge Ito isn't presiding over this case but MJ seems not to understand that.

It's really a shame though. For more than a few years he did some really good work. He's just weird beyond compare.

 

[Ed]

Re: Re: The Paranormal/Current Events Michael Jackson Poll

I saw several likely options but I had to go with with suicide option for him. The Show he put on yesterday makes me think he needs some serious medical intervention...but not for his back/face/skin/body.

Regardless of the verdict, I think it is likely he will end up spending at least half the trial in a jail cell. He's very, very lucky he isn't in one today (again referring to yesterdays antics). Judge Ito isn't presiding over this case but MJ seems not to understand that.

It's really a shame though. For more than a few years he did some really good work. He's just weird beyond compare.

I agree about the suicide thing except that he is such a gravy train for his "entourage" they would keep him trussed up like a turkey before they would allow him to off himself.

That said I can certainly see a mistrial. That judge seems pretty stern (rightfully so....I followed Ito's antics....) and if MJ is stoned every day ...

He was evidentially crying during the testimony yesterday...I can only guess at what the jury thought.

 

[rikzilla]

This coulda been in Paranormal (for multiple reasons) or even science (how DOES one get their skin so white?) but I opted for here because MJ is a unifing force among the many disparate elements that constitute this wonderful world of ours.

Black, whitened, white. Moslem, Jew, Christian, Atheist, Agnostic, Atheistic Agnostic, Animist, Diest, Wiccan. Whiney liberal, Nazi, Libertarian, Socialist, Capitolist, Democrat, Communist, Republican, Tory, Liberal, Screaming Anarchist, Maoist, Trotskyite, ... we can all agree that MJ has a screw loose somewhere.

Not really Ed,...you left out the good ole boys from NAMBLA. Hell, they likely have a huge framed portrait of MJ in NAMBLA HQ with a gold-filigree sign proclaiming: "OUR FOUNDER"

They think he's as normal as Latoya. Hell, I think he is Latoya!

I'm placing my bet on "suicide/hospitalization"... I know it's way out there on a limb...but MJ is a way out there kind of bloke. there's gonna be high drama! I can feel it in me bones!

-z

 

[BPSCG]

Ed, Ed, Ed...

If ever a poll demanded a "Planet X" option...

 

[Ladyhawk]

I voted that he'd get nailed on the booze thing although I don't doubt he's guilty of more than that.

Thing is, I don't know why MJ draws the attention he does. Who really cares? He's a has-been at best and has always been nothing more than a media circus sideshow.

The sad thing is that, back in the day, he was a very talented young man...not bad looking, either.

What the hell happened?

 

[Ed]

Ed, Ed, Ed...

If ever a poll demanded a "Planet X" option...

Consider this entire event occuring on Planet x in the first place.

Aside from that, I figured the P-x option would get 99% of the votes and I was really curious about what people think.

 

[Ed]

I voted that he'd get nailed on the booze thing although I don't doubt he's guilty of more than that.

Thing is, I don't know why MJ draws the attention he does. Who really cares? He's a has-been at best and has always been nothing more than a media circus sideshow.

The sad thing is that, back in the day, he was a very talented young man...not bad looking, either.

What the hell happened?

Short answer: money.

MJ is a one man freak show and always had been and it is now coming to a head.

 

[Rob Lister]

I voted that he'd get nailed on the booze thing although I don't doubt he's guilty of more than that.

I've heard that opinion from others but frankly, I just don't get it. It may will be he won't be found guilty on other charges but if he did that I think it makes it more likely (and certainly not less) that he took other...er...liberties as well. We know he ...sleeps... with them; that much he has admitted, and seemed quite proud of, btw. But that's what a jury is for and they actually get to hear the evidence/testomony/cross. MJ certainly isn't helping them believe otherwise however.[/B][/QUOTE]

Thing is, I don't know why MJ draws the attention he does. Who really cares? He's a has-been at best and has always been nothing more than a media circus sideshow.

The sad thing is that, back in the day, he was a very talented young man...not bad looking, either.

What the hell happened?

He is a has-been but much of that is of his own making.

 

[Darat]

Voted for "Convicted on Impairing Morals of Minor- Giving Booze".

From how it is reported it seems that he allegedly gave an alcoholic drink to a minor and that is a crime? (Which is the most ridiculous "crime" I've heard in years so I assume I’ve either misunderstood what it really means or there is more to it then meets the eye? As you can tell I’ve not really been following this trial.)

 

[Rob Lister]

Voted for "Convicted on Impairing Morals of Minor- Giving Booze".

From how it is reported it seems that he allegedly gave an alcoholic drink to a minor and that is a crime? (Which is the most ridiculous "crime" I've heard in years so I assume I’ve either misunderstood what it really means or there is more to it then meets the eye? As you can tell I’ve not really been following this trial.)

It is certainly a crime here in the US of A. There are exceptions to enforcement (only) for cultural reasons (a glass of wine at dinner, a sip of dad's beer, etc) but getting an 11/12/13/14 year old boy drunk and then 'sleeping' with him (whether that's all he did or not!) is not something that will be ignored.

 

[Mycroft]

My vote is not guilty on all counts, though if anyone ever needed a life intervention, it's him.

 

[Cleon]

Someone said something to me last night that really makes sense. She said that all of these stunts--showing up late in PJs, getting hospitalized for the frikkin' flu, etc.--are basically attempts to keep peoples'--and the jury's--mind off what the kid suffered and focus on how screwed up MJ is.

That said, I think it's an even 50-50 shot whether he gets convicted or not. Either way, his career is over.

 

[Ed]

It is certainly a crime here in the US of A. There are exceptions to enforcement (only) for cultural reasons (a glass of wine at dinner, a sip of dad's beer, etc) but getting an 11/12/13/14 year old boy drunk and then 'sleeping' with him (whether that's all he did or not!) is not something that will be ignored.

Particularly when it is not Mom or Dad.

In CT, BTW, it is a felony to give Booze to people under 21 (might be 18 but the drinking age is 21). Too many have gotten wrecked at parties and killed on the roads.

I heard that MJ could get 7 years for that charge alone. And WTF does he get off giving booze to a sick kid? The kid testified that he said "but I only have one kidney" and MJ said "it's ok, it will relax you."

 

[Darat]

It is certainly a crime here in the US of A. There are exceptions to enforcement (only) for cultural reasons (a glass of wine at dinner, a sip of dad's beer, etc) but getting an 11/12/13/14 year old boy drunk and then 'sleeping' with him (whether that's all he did or not!) is not something that will be ignored.

So it's not the drink that was the alleged offence but the intention behind giving the minor the wine? If that is the case it makes more sense to me.

 

[Ed]

Someone said something to me last night that really makes sense. She said that all of these stunts--showing up late in PJs, getting hospitalized for the frikkin' flu, etc.--are basically attempts to keep peoples'--and the jury's--mind off what the kid suffered and focus on how screwed up MJ is.

That said, I think it's an even 50-50 shot whether he gets convicted or not. Either way, his career is over.

That is a dangerous game. The jurors are not part of his equally f'ed up hollywood set who might respond "poor, poor pitiful MJ". They are ordinary folks who would look at him and think "he is capable of anything".

Let's see if the judge allows his accusers of 10 years ago to testify. If he does, goodbye MJ.

 

[Darat]

...snip...

I heard that MJ could get 7 years for that charge alone. And WTF does he get off giving booze to a sick kid? The kid testified that he said "but I only have one kidney" and MJ said "it's ok, it will relax you."

Hadn't heard any of that... hmm.. perhaps this is why it is better to check some facts before forming an opinion.

 

[Rob Lister]

I really don't think his antics are helping him. I really think they are hurting him significantly. It may be that the jury is not supposed to watch the news but...reality is what it is. My bet is that every single juror knows today exactly what the news reported yesterday. Do you really believe he was so ill he couldn't show up for court? Do you really believe he didn't have time to comb his hair (a wig, I hear) or change his pajama bottoms (and yet have time to change the top into a fashionable shirt and jacket complete with several items of jewelry)? Do you really believe that a person with a 'back problem' so bad that it prevented his 'timely' appearance in court and necessited him walking from his vehicle to the court at a snail's pace showing obvious agony but somehow didn't prevent him from quickly twisting (around) to wave to his screaming (paid?) fans?

Occam's Razor applies, even for the dumbest of jurors. Unless there's a plant on the jury (very possible), then this can't bode well for MJ.

 

[richardm]

Here, hang on: he can get up to eight years for interfering with a little boy, but seven years for giving him a little drinkie?

Those puritans really did a job on America!

 

[BPSCG]

I didn't vote, but I think he'll be convicted of being Michael Jackson. Or maybe I should phrase that, "He'll be convicted because he's Michael Jackson."

Think about it. Having heard none of the testimony first-hand, what do you think the probability is that he's guilty? Twenty-five percent? Fifty? Seventy-five?

Now what if it were, say, Paul McCartney on the dock instead? Would you be as likely to believe the charges?

His freakshow approach to this whole thing is killing him. I'm sure his lawyers are telling him to stop being such a weirdo; "This is not Hollywood, Michael - this is real life! Knock it off!"

But apart from his lawyers today, do you think anyone in the last thirty years has said "No" to his face? Has he heard anything but, "You're great, baby, just keep on doing what you're doing!"? Has anyone told him, "You're a circus."? When he shows up at the courthouse, does he hear anything from the crowd but shouts of "We love you, Michael!"?

I don't know what's going through his head, but you have to believe his lawyers are screaming at him. But I think it's to little or no effect. If it had been, he'd lose the lipstick and mascara, and lose the Hollywood suits in favor of Wall Street.

Or maybe he and his lawyers figure the loopier he acts, the more likely the jury will decide he's not guilty by reason of insanity.