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The Ipswich serial killer

MikeW

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Recently here in the UK we've had five women killed in the same area, by the same person. All murders happened over a very short space of time, just a few days, unprecedented here, and understandably the case has grabbed a lot of media attention. (Discussed elsewhere at http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70510).

So why am I telling you this? Because now someone things it's got "too much" media attention. Yes, it's our old friend Karl Schwarz, who in a new article tells us:

The question is “would the UK kill five prostitutes to get the focus off some UK butts that may well be facing criminal prosecution?”

Our government did it on 9-11-2001 and killed 3,000.

For some reason the girls are on the Ipswich CCTV spy cameras and they cannot narrow down or find the car? How is it that these girls are on the cameras and not anyone else? This latest film they released of Anneli Alderton she is talking to someone and no one is in the train car with her. She is also as nervous as a cat in a dog kennel or she may need a heroin fix real bad.

I give it a probably of 1 in one billion that any person would be the victim of a serial killer.

As for whether the US or UK will kill to control the news, I give that a probability of 1. If you do not know what a probability of 1 means that means it is 100% certain.
http://www.govcov.com/karlschwarzarticles/ipswich_121706.html
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(much more at the above link)

Yes, now the conspiracy has widened just that little bit further... Or Schwarz is simply looking to fill Joe Viall's role as conspiratorial village idiot (as per Vialls suggestion that Soham murderer Ian Huntley was innocent & fitted up to protect the real, presumably US killer). Either way, amidst the disgust these words of his did raise a smile:

I have a good BS detector...
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Uh-huh. I think we'll be the judge of that.
 
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Presumably Schwarz doesn't have the balls to come to the UK and say this, where he'll get his arse sued off for libel?
 
The Suffolk police have just arrested a suspect. Check BBC website for more details.

On the World at One (Radio 4), they said that the suspect was not yet officially named, but was most likely someone who'd been interviewed by the media about the disappearences. They then played an excerpt where the guy was saying how he'd known them for variously 12, 6 months and more recently after the murders started. I'm no profiler or detective but it sounded creepy as hell. I'd have been very interested in this man after hearing this interview, and I guess that's precisely what happened. The guy wanted to 'involve' himself in the investigation and to brag, and got caught as a result.
 
CurtC said:
Whom would he be libelling? The "UK"?
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I assume that he means "HM Government" but you're right, he'd have to be more specific and name a group or organisation before he got sued.

Remember: ECHR = right to freedom of expression but not the right to tell lies.
 
Similar thing happening here in New Jersey - bodies of 4 prostitutes found
in ditch. All were clothed except for missing socks, bodies pointed toward
the east. Only 2 been identified yet.

Been named "BLACK HORSE STRANGLER" (for Black Horse pike in Egg township
outside Atlantic City were bodies found). They were living and "working"
out of seedy strip of motels near casinos in Atlantic City .
 
Hasn't Alison Dubois sorted these out yet, as part of her normal working routine? I'm amazed the police haven't contacted her, what with her fabulous accuracy record! :D
 
Nick Terry said:
The Suffolk police have just arrested a suspect. Check BBC website for more details.

On the World at One (Radio 4), they said that the suspect was not yet officially named, but was most likely someone who'd been interviewed by the media about the disappearences. They then played an excerpt where the guy was saying how he'd known them for variously 12, 6 months and more recently after the murders started. I'm no profiler or detective but it sounded creepy as hell. I'd have been very interested in this man after hearing this interview, and I guess that's precisely what happened. The guy wanted to 'involve' himself in the investigation and to brag, and got caught as a result.
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he does seem to be a profilers dream............

i had problems listening to that file online so streamboxed it. it's now up on youtube:-



theres also a couple of related threads over at the paranormal section of JREF forums:-

HERE'S ONE
 
njslim said:
Similar thing happening here in New Jersey - bodies of 4 prostitutes found
in ditch. All were clothed except for missing socks, bodies pointed toward
the east. Only 2 been identified yet.

Been named "BLACK HORSE STRANGLER" (for Black Horse pike in Egg township
outside Atlantic City were bodies found). They were living and "working"
out of seedy strip of motels near casinos in Atlantic City .
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I used to live not far from there, went on the White Horse Pike all the time. I never spent much time in EHT though. I lived in Bridgeton, so I was up that way more.
 
bonavada said:
he does seem to be a profilers dream............

i had problems listening to that file online so streamboxed it. it's now up on youtube:-



theres also a couple of related threads over at the paranormal section of JREF forums:-
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I freelance news edit for most major UK and UK bureaus of international news stations (not proud of it, helps keep the wolf from the door between films). Sky News (the fox of UK news, though nowhere near as bad) has ran with the story solidly for days, and the BBC has followed suite, consistently.

I'm not going to talk about privledged information etc, but watching interviews of the guy, listening to him, and the vox's grabbed of the prostitutes from the area, it's not him. None of the girls think it's him, the guy strikes me as the kind of desperate pathetic errand boy of a few prostitutes, running them home after nights out in exchange for occassional sex.

As to the timing. What Blair planned the death of five prostitutes over the course of the month? Or that this story is dominanting the media. Yes it's true it is dominating some aspects of the media. But all? He references sky news repeatadly, Sky news is if it bleeds it leads tv. But a cursory glance at any of the broadsheets, shows that the stories that he mentions are covered in depth.

One wonders where he got his info about all these stories that were buried? Perhaps from the media resources that don't bury them? Essentially you have a non story, a story about a news station(s) that let a "it bleeds it leads" ethos dominate it's schedule, and ignores other stories, that are covered elsewhere in the mainstream press. If thats his issue than I suggest he stops trying to get his news from rating driven news, and switch to the paper. Advertising know the demographic of readers so are less likely to pander to the lowest common denominator (unless you are the daily star). Americans and Canadas if you can I hearitly recommend the Guardian's saturday addition. It's "bad science" column (debunking pseudo science and "scientific" reports makes the columnists an honoury JREFer
 
8den said:
I'm not going to talk about privledged information etc, but watching interviews of the guy, listening to him, and the vox's grabbed of the prostitutes from the area, it's not him. None of the girls think it's him, the guy strikes me as the kind of desperate pathetic errand boy of a few prostitutes, running them home after nights out in exchange for occassional sex.
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I understand they have made a second arrest.

-Gumboot
 
I do find it interesting that the police have been stressing the "perpetrator or perpetrators" angle since Day 1. I can't remember them doing so on other cases.

However, I think the first guy was arrested solely on suspicion of being a complete weirdo and nothing more.
 
Big Al said:
However, I think the first guy was arrested solely on suspicion of being a complete weirdo and nothing more.
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[badtaste]

If that were legal, we could get rid of the whole UK 911 "Truth" movement in one fell swoop......

[/badtaste]
 
Architect said:
[badtaste]

If that were legal, we could get rid of the whole UK 911 "Truth" movement in one fell swoop......

[/badtaste]
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Ah, but they had to let him go. If they pulled the same trick with the Twoofer movement, there'd be lawsuits flying around like confetti at a Moonie wedding ceremony....
 
Evening Standard Jan 2 2007 said:
The man accused of murdering five prostitutes in Ipswich was due to appear in court today. Steven Wright, 48, is charged with the murders of...
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Look, they're accusing Steven Wright, despite the fact that he was not even in the same country, and in fact was doing standup in New York at the time.
 
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