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The first Firefox update I've really disliked.

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At least you should be able to configure it the way you had it before! I hate (very small!) icon-only buttons. I like to have the text on them also - and I don't see an option for configuring that. Along with not being able to have the address bar on top, and the tabs underneath that (so the tabs can actually be "attached" to their window content.
 
Just tried updating and it said that it's not compatible with the Classic Compact add-on. Given that, I'll wait until the developer has made a version which is compatible.
 
Doing a little more searching around, it seems that they've removed the option to have tabs on the bottom (of the top bit), and have removed the add-on bar. I hate tabs on top, and I have an add-ons which make the add-on bar appear inside the url bar, and makes link descriptions when you hover your pointer over a link also appear in the url bar.

I don't want the add-ons which I use enough to have visible buttons (and my clock) taking up real estate on my actual browser, and I don't want urls distractingly appearing in the bottom left of the screen.

Mutter, mutter, moan, groan...
 
You can have Tabs at the bottom. Install the add on Woody- has linked, it lets you change everything.
 
The more I'm reading about this new update and the way that Firefox is headed in the future, the less I like it.

The big news appears to be "User Personalisation", which looks to be implemented in the future. The first part which is either coming soon or is in this latest update is called "Directory Tiles". You know those 9 tiles which appear on a new tab page that Firefox nicked from Chrome (which I have completely eradicated, BTW)? Well, new users are going to find that those tiles are full of "suggestions" for sites they might like, including "sponsored links". Yup, Firefox is going to have adverts on it.

But where it seems to be heading is worse. It's now the done thing for websites to track you in various ways and to deliver "personalised" websites. Sometimes that means ensuring you're reading the right language, sometimes that means emphasising local search results, and sometimes that means taking note of what websites you've visited and delivering adverts connected to those sites. I'm not in favour of any of those things, except maybe the language. Well, what Firefox is proposing is that the browser itself will have personalised information about you, and websites will be able to access that information. We then trust the websites not to store or use that information in any way other than to deliver your "personalised" content.

It may be time to start thinking about finding another browser. I don't really like the way this is going.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
You can have Tabs at the bottom. Install the add on Woody- has linked, it lets you change everything.
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Yes, but what I'm saying is that you can no longer do this in about:config. You can change it with an add-on, or you can edit the .css file, but I see no Earthly reason why the option should have been removed from about:config.
 
I 'fixed' my upgrade by rolling back to version 28 and changing the upgrade feature in Tools to 'Never check for updates'.

Security risk? I'll take my chances.

RayG
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
The big news appears to be "User Personalisation", which looks to be implemented in the future. The first part which is either coming soon or is in this latest update is called "Directory Tiles". You know those 9 tiles which appear on a new tab page that Firefox nicked from Chrome (which I have completely eradicated, BTW)? Well, new users are going to find that those tiles are full of "suggestions" for sites they might like, including "sponsored links". Yup, Firefox is going to have adverts on it.
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Didn't they drop this idea last week? It never really worried me anyway, since I rarely have such a page open.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
The more I'm reading about this new update and the way that Firefox is headed in the future, the less I like it.

The big news appears to be "User Personalisation", which looks to be implemented in the future. The first part which is either coming soon or is in this latest update is called "Directory Tiles". You know those 9 tiles which appear on a new tab page that Firefox nicked from Chrome (which I have completely eradicated, BTW)? Well, new users are going to find that those tiles are full of "suggestions" for sites they might like, including "sponsored links". Yup, Firefox is going to have adverts on it.

But where it seems to be heading is worse. It's now the done thing for websites to track you in various ways and to deliver "personalised" websites. Sometimes that means ensuring you're reading the right language, sometimes that means emphasising local search results, and sometimes that means taking note of what websites you've visited and delivering adverts connected to those sites. I'm not in favour of any of those things, except maybe the language. Well, what Firefox is proposing is that the browser itself will have personalised information about you, and websites will be able to access that information. We then trust the websites not to store or use that information in any way other than to deliver your "personalised" content.

It may be time to start thinking about finding another browser. I don't really like the way this is going.
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Sounds like you need a hermitage that way no personal info gets on the web.
 
RayG said:
I 'fixed' my upgrade by rolling back to version 28 and changing the upgrade feature in Tools to 'Never check for updates'.

Security risk? I'll take my chances.

RayG
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Same thing here. Only difference is that I didn't upgrade in the first place. :D

Staying with version 28 until they bring back all the configuration options they suppressed in 29 (without having to install an extension) isn't that risky (especially with EMET, NoScript and several other security measures); if at all.
 
Firefox updated on me as well. I didn't expect to see Mozilla Chrome when I launched Mozilla Firefox, but, there you have it. I immediately installed the extension in the second post, and that took care of most of my issues. :)
 
I aso rolled back to version 28, despite the dire warnings about security risks. I'll let FF tell me about updates, but not install them automatically.
 
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Didn't they drop this idea last week?
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If they did, then they've not said as much on their blog.

It never really worried me anyway, since I rarely have such a page open.
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No, it wouldn't affect me either, but it's a direction I don't like them going in. Nor do I like them trying to sell it to people as being for their benefit. It's to make extra revenue for Mozilla. That's fair enough, so tell people that that's what it's for. Don't do this patronising "we're considering doing this because it will allow us to deliver great content to our users!" stuff.
 
Vermonter said:
Firefox updated on me as well. I didn't expect to see Mozilla Chrome when I launched Mozilla Firefox, but, there you have it.
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It's such a shame. Firefox has lost a fair whack of its market share to Chrome over the last few years, so rather than continuing to try to do something different they've spent the last few years trying to become more like Chrome. I've tried Chrome and I don't like it. That's one of the reasons I use Firefox. If Firefox becomes like Chrome, then I might as well just use Chrome.
 
A while ago I tried Pale Moon. At that time, it was not enough different from, or better than, Firefox to warrant switching.

If Pale Moon does not follow the current FF trajectory, it might be a reasonable alternative to FF.
 
Well, the add-on above doesn't work quite well with the appearance add-on I've been using, but I have to look around in it a bit more. Thanks for that!
 
I'm happy with Classic Theme Restorer. The interface is pretty much the same.

I guess I'm getting used to the Arbitrary Interface Changes that everyone seems required to include these days. As long as there is some way to undo them.

It doesn't matter what they do to the Facebook interface, I'll never understand it.

~~ Paul
 
tsig said:
Sounds like you need a hermitage that way no personal info gets on the web.
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Maybe, Squeegee Beckenheim, as do I, just prefers to assert his own control over what of his personal information gets on the web?

You can do what you want and let everybody and his dog know whatever they can glean or steal about you if you wish.

:w2:
 
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