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the ever growing vampire community

bedlamite

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A video on youtube has made me do a little spelunking and see what I can find on the topic of "real vampires". Apparently the "vampire community" is a thriving, if a bit psychosis and drama filled, group of people who seem to believe that they need to consume life force (claim made by "psychic vampires") and/or blood, most common preference being human.

While some sites are adamant about the vampire community being an adults movement (some tailor their beliefs to reflect this and outright refuse to cater to anyone bellow the age of consent), there is an alarming amount of sites dedicated to teen followers, or with sections targeted at teen followers.

While some sites have a very practical (despite still being outlandish) and arguably less dangerous outlook on the subject, some are very adamant in promoting dangerous behavior, grandiosity and cult activity.

Most "vampires" believe that they posses the strengths and weakness of fictional vampires, most to a lesser degree. While there are some who claim preternatural superpowers, they are generally looked down upon by the community as a whole. Not from disbelief that such things exist, but because they regard these individuals bad reflections of the community as a whole.

Weaknesses that they believe they posses varies, but most often include:
*sensitivity to sunlight (resulting in eye/skin irritation, burning, sun poisoning, *etc)
*nocturnal behavior (despite this only being a modern implication of vampirism-- vampires of lore of yore didn't really have a bed time)
*proclivity towards migraines (a draw back from their supposed stronger 5 senses)
*strong blood lust or need to consume blood (in "sanguine" type vampires)

Strengths they believe they posses are:
*physical prowess surpassing that of a normal human (strength, speed, reflexes, etc)
*psychic prowess (most consider themselves highly psychic)
*better vision, hearing, taste and skin sensitivity
*night vision, being able to see in diminished or non-existent light.

Most "vampires" who consume blood and most "psychic vampires" who consume "life force" generally regard the other type as crazy, disillusioned, merely human or more often, inferior to their type of vampirism.

Cults have sprung up out of this movement, generally adapting theories, rules and guidelines for their sects from role playing games such as those from White Wolf, and books such as The Vampire Chronicles by Anne Rice. Some of the more popular and talked about cults (refered to as "houses" and "clans" by those in the community) are The Vampire Church, Ordo Strigoi Vii and House Kheperu (an entirely new post in and of itself in terms of their outlandish claims (outlandish in comparison to the rest of the vampire community, if that tells you anything). They are prime examples of the mindset of this community and the people there in.

As of yet, no "vampire" has submitted to scientific testing to prove whether there is an ounce of truth to their claims.
 
The whole "Vampire" movement is pretty silly,if you ask me.
They take it so damn seriously. It not's like the SCA,or one of the Pirate groups,where they are just dressing up in costumes and having fun on weekends. The Vampire groups are trying to make some kind of life style out of it.
 
The competing needs to feel special on one hand and accepted on the other is all that is required to explain this and other fringe communities.
 
bedlamite said:
As of yet, no "vampire" has submitted to scientific testing to prove whether there is an ounce of truth to their claims.
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The same is true of the Popes, who are truly dangerous vampires.
 
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When I was in Austin last year, barhopping near 6th street, I saw a man lying in a gutter, with another man crouched over him. I walked over quickly to offer my CPR or drunk-handling services. When I got closer, I realized that the dude on top was pretending to suck the blood from the dude on the bottom. I presume they were doing this directly outside a bar to "freak out the tourists", or something.

Anyway, a cop came buy and rousted the pair, but this fact haunts me: Not only is there a subculture of people who want to be vampires, there is a subculture of people who want to be victims.
 
Are you sure they're that serious? I don't really know that much about the vampire community, but I always just thought it was just something for a temporary escape from reality, or nerds. Nerds would explain it too.
 
Sounds like an off-shoot from this semi-recent "Emo" group (who are really just what I would know as "goths").

We really need to return to a policy of compulsory national service. That'll sort them out.
 
I had a friend some time ago who believed herself to be a vampire.

It was a person I met online. She believed that she needed to drink blood; not much, about a tablespoon full. She usually mixed it with wine, or dribbled it on bread and ate it.

She could also drain psychic energy, she thought. For this she needed to be in close proximity to her victim, preferably for a period of hours because the psychic draining process was slow.

If she didn't feed one way or the other every few weeks at least, she felt extremely weak and listless, and was prone to catching every illness that went around.

She had no problem with daylight, no problem with mirrors. She was actually a christian, and didn't really buy into much of the supernatural side of vampirism. She saw it more as being like a strange medical condition she had.

She confessed all this to me very warily; she expected me to say she was insane. I told her gently that what she was describing was a biological impossibility, but that I had no doubt she believed it sincerely.

The woman was planning to come and visit the UK at some point in the future. Part of the reason she told me was to feel me out as a potential donor. She had one or two people she usually used back home - donors are relatively rare compared to vampires, and are in great demand. As you can imagine it's not an easy thing to find, and she was going to be in the UK for long enough that it would be a problem for her.

She had done... questionable things, to get blood before. Some donors can ask for payment... and not the money sort of payment. I didn't question too far into what exactly she had done, but I know that sexual things had been involved, if not actual sex. The thought of the kind of risks she exposed herself to for this troubled me greatly. I For instance I know for a fact that she narrowly escaped being raped on at least one occasion.

I agreed to be her donor if she needed it while she was here; a small quantity of blood once a fortnight or so. I also told her she was free to drain me of as much psychic energy as she liked for the entire time we were together.

The one condition I insisted on was that she regard it as a freely given gift, with no attempt to repay me in any way, ever.

Was I supporting her delusion? I suppose I was. But if I'd said no, she'd have exposed herself to god knows what in a foreign country in order to get an alternative supply. I wasn't prepared to see a person I cared about in that situation.

In the event, she did come and visit but the blood thing never happened. To be honest I think the whole thing was a bit of a phase that she just drifted out of over time.
 
devnull said:
Sounds like an off-shoot from this semi-recent "Emo" group (who are really just what I would know as "goths").
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Actually Emos and Goths are completely different sub-cultures. Goths generally try to act dark, mysterious, and into occult stuff. Many are just in it for the attention, and there are the 'perky' Goths who basically just take up the fashion. Emos are a bunch of whiny immature teenagers who write bad poetry about insignificant problems like not having a girlfriend.

These are just stereotypes of course, but they do give a general outline of there differences.
 
bedlamite said:
A video on youtube has made me do a little spelunking and see what I can find on the topic of "real vampires". Apparently the "vampire community" is a thriving, if a bit psychosis and drama filled, group of people who seem to believe that they need to consume life force (claim made by "psychic vampires") and/or blood, most common preference being human.

While some sites are adamant about the vampire community being an adults movement (some tailor their beliefs to reflect this and outright refuse to cater to anyone bellow the age of consent), there is an alarming amount of sites dedicated to teen followers, or with sections targeted at teen followers.

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It's been thriving for a good 28 years now. The vampire (or vampyre) lifestylists are really an offshoot of the original goths of the early 1980's. If you look at the subculture, it's populated by 15-17 year olds. Adults members fall away from the group in their mid-30's. By that time, it's apparent they will hit middle age like everyone else and really need to move out of their parents basement. Think of it as Trekkies with plastic fangs.
 
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bedlamite said:
A video on youtube has made me do a little spelunking and see what I can find on the topic of "real vampires". Apparently the "vampire community" is a thriving, if a bit psychosis and drama filled, group of people who seem to believe that they need to consume life force (claim made by "psychic vampires") and/or blood, most common preference being human.

While some sites are adamant about the vampire community being an adults movement (some tailor their beliefs to reflect this and outright refuse to cater to anyone bellow the age of consent), there is an alarming amount of sites dedicated to teen followers, or with sections targeted at teen followers.

While some sites have a very practical (despite still being outlandish) and arguably less dangerous outlook on the subject, some are very adamant in promoting dangerous behavior, grandiosity and cult activity.

Most "vampires" believe that they posses the strengths and weakness of fictional vampires, most to a lesser degree. While there are some who claim preternatural superpowers, they are generally looked down upon by the community as a whole. Not from disbelief that such things exist, but because they regard these individuals bad reflections of the community as a whole.

Weaknesses that they believe they posses varies, but most often include:
*sensitivity to sunlight (resulting in eye/skin irritation, burning, sun poisoning, *etc)
*nocturnal behavior (despite this only being a modern implication of vampirism-- vampires of lore of yore didn't really have a bed time)
*proclivity towards migraines (a draw back from their supposed stronger 5 senses)
*strong blood lust or need to consume blood (in "sanguine" type vampires)

Strengths they believe they posses are:
*physical prowess surpassing that of a normal human (strength, speed, reflexes, etc)
*psychic prowess (most consider themselves highly psychic)
*better vision, hearing, taste and skin sensitivity
*night vision, being able to see in diminished or non-existent light.

Most "vampires" who consume blood and most "psychic vampires" who consume "life force" generally regard the other type as crazy, disillusioned, merely human or more often, inferior to their type of vampirism.

Cults have sprung up out of this movement, generally adapting theories, rules and guidelines for their sects from role playing games such as those from White Wolf, and books such as The Vampire Chronicles by Anne Rice. Some of the more popular and talked about cults (refered to as "houses" and "clans" by those in the community) are The Vampire Church, Ordo Strigoi Vii and House Kheperu (an entirely new post in and of itself in terms of their outlandish claims (outlandish in comparison to the rest of the vampire community, if that tells you anything). They are prime examples of the mindset of this community and the people there in.

As of yet, no "vampire" has submitted to scientific testing to prove whether there is an ounce of truth to their claims.
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They show up at cons, the ones who don't take it seriously are mostly fun. The ones who actually drink blood are (medically) stupid but do not bother me(wooden hollow points silver cross tipped*)




sort of joke! I get annoyed that you can't play Masquerade using paired 9mm Uzi's with a modified blowback using wooden bullets as noted and /or a Streetsweeper with Mag flare and silver particles (death by UV and silver poisoning).
 
The Masquerade was a heck of a lot of fun when it came out. The TV show, Kindred: The Embraced was fun, but never captured the spirit of the game.

Bedlamite, welcome to the forum. There are several past threads concerning the vampire subculture. Now if I can only find them...
 
Miss Whiplash said:
The Masquerade was a heck of a lot of fun when it came out. The TV show, Kindred: The Embraced was fun, but never captured the spirit of the game.
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I agree. It's a shame, because the 'spirit' of the game could work well in a movie or tv series. I quite happen to have liked the game.

This reminds me of a time years ago when I was doing my undergrad. I can't remember how it came up, but myself and another friend thought it'd be a laugh feigning being 'vampires at uni' on the new uni newsgroup. This was the birth of forums, and we were essentially making fun of some event that had gone on at the uni pub. It was so over the top, but we both posted as vampires who were sick of being mistreated by the student union. It was hilarious.

Only one girl - who I swore was playing along - took it all seriously. Honestly thought I was a vampire. It clicked after about two weeks when she made a strange comment that I realised she honestly thought I was one. I had no idea there were these cults who believed such nonsense up until that point.

She was enraged when she learned I was joking. I'm glad I never ran into that whackjob IRL.

Athon
 
Vampires are apparently a subgroup (probably the largest, I'd imagine) of people who call themselves "Otherkin." That's people who think they are either: a vampire, a werewolf, a dragon, a fairy, an angel, an elf, or a witch.
 
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