The case against Dr. Paul

Oliver

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Today's Market crash is a good reason to discuss Dr. Paul's
nutty philosophy of sticking to the constitution and saving
your Tax-Money, which indeed is pretty nutty since many
Americans don't care much about their money as long "Front-
runners" promise the blue out of the sky.

While Romney wastes his time on dreaming about spending
your Tax-Money to the Jihadist-threat of the century, pretty
much ignoring terrorism originating in Saudi-Arabia,

McCain babbling about a hundred years being in Iraq if
necessary, pretty much keeping his mouth shut about the
reasons being there,

Huckabee, pretty much keeping his mouth shut about every-
thing about economic solutions and also sticking to the war,

and Obama and Hillary supporting their health-care plans while
not mentioning the costs of their plans - besides not presenting
any solution to the financial problems America faces.

Now even if Dr. Paul was a "second tier dark horse"-Candidate
from the beginning - and he still is called this way for some
very "American democratic" reasons, what would be wrong
with someone who sticks to his view about the world - and
his views about the economic problems?

Now I know that Nuts like Penn Jillette&democratic Howard Stern,

Bill Maher, Barry Goldwater, Jr., Judge Napolitano, David Letterman,
Tucker Carlson, Chuck Baldwin, Jim Cramer, Jack Cafferty and others
speak very positive about Dr. Paul or even endorse him - which makes
them all Nuts in contrast to the wise people in here.

And I also know about Ron Paul flip-flopping on pretty much
all his issues:


And we all know what a racist newsletters he didn't write what
doesn't is relevant at all for anyone who thinks that facts are
just annoying:


So besides changing his mind about the death penalty and the
current extend of the immigration problem, what else could be
held against him, pretty much saying the same things he always
believed in - and voting against every Tax-increase, every
liberty-reducing bill, everything that isn't conform with his
interpretation of the constitution?

I know that many Americans don't give a **** about the
constitution anyway - and probably don't even have any Idea
about what freedom and the declaration of independence was
all about - growing up in the most laughing stock-like democracy
of all.

So? What's your case against him - sum it up as plausible
and factual as possible. And ignore the Trolls who add nothing
but "Meh" to the discussion.
 
Because his economics are kooky?
Oliver, you do not give a crap about Paul except that you hate the USA and like his policy of a total withdrawal of the US from the world.
And why should I listen to a lecture by somebody who is totally ignorant about American dometic affairs in general,and economics in particular,and who has not bothered to vote in his own Country's election to boot?
 
Because his economics are kooky?
Oliver, you do not give a crap about Paul except that you hate the USA and like his policy of a total withdrawal of the US from the world.
And why should I listen to a lecture by somebody who is totally ignorant about American dometic affairs in general,and economics in particular,and who has not bothered to vote in his own Country's election to boot?
:deadhorse
 
Oh look, another Oliver thread identical to every other Oliver thread!
 
Oh look, another Oliver thread identical to every other Oliver thread!


Yuppers.
I know I am beating a dead horse by replying to Oliver,but I just get a little pissed off on somebody who is so totally ignorant about the US and does not even bother to vote in his own Country's elections telling us Americans how to vote.
 
Because his economics are kooky?
Oliver, you do not give a crap about Paul except that you hate the USA and like his policy of a total withdrawal of the US from the world.
And why should I listen to a lecture by somebody who is totally ignorant about American dometic affairs in general,and economics in particular,and who has not bothered to vote in his own Country's election to boot?


That's your wise assumption - but it more away from facts or
skepticism than taking creationism for fact. I assume you're one
of the people who give a **** about the constitution, so it isn't
that surprising to me.

But in contrast to your little conspiracy, I like Politicians who
are trustworthy, constant and speak the truth even if it is
unpopular. That's exactly what Paul is about. And yes, I know
that consistency are boring for many Americans if there are so
many Candidates who speak much more compelling distortions. :D

Anyway: Address my points if you really care about the thread.
Thank you :)


Not true - the dead horse is the supposed democratic choice
people have and had in America in the last decades. So why
do you still stick to stupidity?

Oh look, another Oliver thread identical to every other Oliver thread!


So you have no point? In a "critical thinking forum"?

"Meh!", eh? ;)
 
God, Oliver, you really don't understand that a lot of us simply think Paul view of the Constitution is wrong?
And you,frankly,know Crap about the Constitution or American Politics.
 
God, Oliver, you really don't understand that a lot of us simply think Paul view of the Constitution is wrong?
And you,frankly,know Crap about the Constitution or American Politics.


While I probably know more about the Constitution than 50% of
"average Joe's", you still fail to make a factual and therefore
plausible case against Dr. Nut, didn't you?
 
But in contrast to your little conspiracy, I like Politicians who
are trustworthy, constant and speak the truth even if it is
unpopular. That's exactly what Paul is about. And yes, I know
that consistency are boring for many Americans if there are so
many Candidates who speak much more compelling distortions. :D

You mean like the truth of how Paul is against earmarks and how he votes against spending bills, yet he puts earmarks for his constituants in spending bills? But I guess it is OK since even though he put it there he votes against it, since it is going to pass anyway. That is some real straight talkin' there!
 
Oliver, did you read the Gay Sex thread?

And I like how you tell people off for writing people off for silly reasons right after you do the same with the other candidates.

For instance, both the Democratic candidates say how they plan to pay for their healthcare plans. Huckabee loves to talk about populist economic issues.
 
While I probably know more about the Constitution than 50% of
"average Joe's",
No, you don't understand the Constitution any more than you understand how annoying your 60-odd character lines of type are in your posts. Maybe things are different in Germany, but the rest of the world has monitors that display higher resolution than 640x480.

you still fail to make a factual and therefore
plausible case against Dr. Nut, didn't you?
Refer to one of the 500 other Ron Paul threads to find out why he's a nut.
 
You mean like the truth of how Paul is against earmarks and how he votes against spending bills, yet he puts earmarks for his constituants in spending bills? But I guess it is OK since even though he put it there he votes against it, since it is going to pass anyway. That is some real straight talkin' there!


I see no problem in putting earmarks into a Bill if the money goes
to other purposes than the ones I personally oppose. That indeed
is consistent in what Paul says and thinks.

Plus it's his job as a Texan congress-man to get money back to
his district, even if he finally votes against the Bill he put the
earmarks in. What's so wrong about your states congress man
getting your tax-money back for your states interest - and
therefore: Your taxes and interest.

I have a hard time to see any contradiction in that if it was my
tax-money. So why do you see any inconsistencies in that? :confused:
 
I see no problem in putting earmarks into a Bill if the money goes
to other purposes than the ones I personally oppose. That indeed
is consistent in what Paul says and thinks.

Plus it's his job as a Texan congress-man to get money back to
his district, even if he finally votes against the Bill he put the
earmarks in. What's so wrong about your states congress man
getting your tax-money back for your states interest - and
therefore: Your taxes and interest.

I have a hard time to see any contradiction in that if it was my
tax-money. So why do you see any inconsistencies in that? :confused:

So you see no problem with "playing the system" to get earmark money, and then taking a stand against it. Haveing his cake and eating it(and other peoples') too. Yeah, that is a real ethical, stand up guy. Forget President, lets make him King!
 
No, you don't understand the Constitution any more than you understand how annoying your 60-odd character lines of type are in your posts. Maybe things are different in Germany, but the rest of the world has monitors that display higher resolution than 640x480.

Refer to one of the 500 other Ron Paul threads to find out why he's a nut.


You're funny since you fail to see the similarities in the US- and
German Constitution - besides the fact that the German one is
the more modern one thanks to the changed circumstances.

My screen resolution is 2560 x 1600 using a SyncMaster 305.
Don't confuse Europe with Zimbabwe. What is "640x480" is the
way many Americans think about elections, I agree.

But you still fail to point out why Paul is a nut and the people
I posted are as well. Besides pointing out why Paul always was
and is a "third tier"-candidate. Who determines such things in
a "free country"?

Jesus? :rolleyes:
 
So you see no problem with "playing the system" to get earmark money, and then taking a stand against it. Haveing his cake and eating it(and other peoples') too. Yeah, that is a real ethical, stand up guy. Forget President, lets make him King!


No, you might not get my point here. If I vote for Paul as a
Texan citizen, I expect Paul to get my Tax money back for
Texan issues and not wasting it for other unrelated issues.

What would annoy me would be that he finally votes against
the Bill. We surely can agree about that fact. But the Earmarks
itself wouldn't annoy me for the reason that it is my Tax money
going back to my Texas.

What's confusing about this from a Texan tax-payers Point
of View??? :confused:
 
Well when he gets his cake isnt he giving it back to the treasury at the end of the year?
So hes not really eating it is he?
 
But you still fail to point out why Paul is a nut and the people
I posted are as well. Besides pointing out why Paul always was
and is a "third tier"-candidate. Who determines such things in
a "free country"?

Jesus? :rolleyes:
The people determined it with their votes. And they determined that Ron Paul is a loony fringe candidate, and so "we, the people" are sending him back to Texas where he belongs.
 
Besides pointing out why Paul always was
and is a "third tier"-candidate. Who determines such things in
a "free country"?
The people. Sort of like how people choose candidates on the Internet except in the real world their votes matter.
 

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