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So how much apprehension do you folks have about the coming total eclipse and the fact that it's passing right over the yellowstone caldera right when it's becoming more active.
It seems that the combo of the moon and sun gravitational effects could have a deforming effect on the liquid magma.
Stock up on bottled water and ammo, smoke a joint and kiss our butt goodbye.
 
Sorry... is this a CT/Prepper/paranoia thing going around?

Someone else can do the math, but I'd guess we come within a percent or two of an eclipse every 28 days, give or take.

Yellowstone has tremendous destructive potential when it does eventually blow (again), but I don't imagine a Luna/Sol alignment will be the trigger. :D
 
kedo1981 said:
So how much apprehension do you folks have about the coming total eclipse and....
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I'm a bit concerned that I'll have a problem finding a good place to watch it in Oregon after driving south from Washington.

....the fact that it's passing right over the yellowstone caldera right when it's becoming more active.
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None at all.

It seems that the combo of the moon and sun gravitational effects could have a deforming effect on the liquid magma.
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Would this be any different than the effects it has every other time there is a new moon? If so how did you calculate the difference?

....smoke a joint and kiss our butt goodbye.
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Tell us how it went the next day please.

Ranb
 
I'm convinced. You had me at "it seems...", which is the gold standard of evidence.
 
kedo1981 said:
So how much apprehension do you folks have about the coming total eclipse and the fact that it's passing right over the yellowstone caldera right when it's becoming more active.
It seems that the combo of the moon and sun gravitational effects could have a deforming effect on the liquid magma.
Stock up on bottled water and ammo, smoke a joint and kiss our butt goodbye.
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kedo1981 said:
So how much apprehension do you folks have about the coming total eclipse and the fact that it's passing right over the yellowstone caldera right when it's becoming more active.
It seems that the combo of the moon and sun gravitational effects could have a deforming effect on the liquid magma.
Stock up on bottled water and ammo, smoke a joint and kiss our butt goodbye.
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Zero apprehension.

The moon has no effect on magma, volcanoes, and sure as heck won't set off a caldera.

A little less joint smoking and more time in geology class will do wonders for your stress level.:thumbsup:
 
Well, there is this article in Nat Geo from 2005

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/05/0523_050523_moonquake.html
Granted, it is far from being conclusive and the counterpoint is presented, but it's also an idea that has been and is on the minds of geologists so I'm not that mock worthy.

As to "the Moon doesn't affect the crust" that is not true at all, the so called Earth tide is a well established fact.

https://www.britannica.com/science/Earth-tide

or this one

https://www.thoughtco.com/land-tides-or-earth-tides-1435299

And spare me the "source snobbery" None of you are College profs grading my term paper.
 
You should really be more worried about lunar eclipses. The sun and moon are literally trying to pull the Earth apart! That's why you go floating off the surface every time there's a full moon, with those two extremely powerful fields acting in opposite directions!
 
kedo1981 said:
Well, there is this article in Nat Geo from 2005

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/05/0523_050523_moonquake.html
Granted, it is far from being conclusive and the counterpoint is presented, but it's also an idea that has been and is on the minds of geologists so I'm not that mock worthy.
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You're not wrong there. From your link:
Is the observed correlation between the moon's position in its 18.6-year cycle (or any other lunar phase) and earthquake activity a coincidence or something more? That question, Chester said, is best answered by the U.S. Geological Survey.

"There's no evidence to support that," said John Bellini, a geophysicist with the survey's National Earthquake Information Center in Golden, Colorado. "There were some studies in the past that tried to link lunar effects to seismicity [the relative frequency and distribution of earthquakes] and there was nothing found."
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Guess you answered your own question.
Nice when that happens, isn't it?
 
kedo1981 said:
So how much apprehension do you folks have about the coming total eclipse and the fact that it's passing right over the yellowstone caldera right when it's becoming more active.
It seems that the combo of the moon and sun gravitational effects could have a deforming effect on the liquid magma.
Stock up on bottled water and ammo, smoke a joint and kiss our butt goodbye.
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The path of totality passes to the south of Yellowstone Park:

On August 21, 2017 a solar eclipse will be visible across the United States. A partial eclipse will be visible throughout Yellowstone. The full eclipse can only be seen in a narrow band stretching across the country that includes areas south of the park.
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https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/eclipse.htm

To compound the fail already documented by others, as the caldera is contained entirely within the park, the path of totality misses the caldera entirely.
 
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I'm at about 99% that we'll just watch the 99% coverage from Portland.
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The forecast is partly cloudy in the areas of the eclipse in Oregon and Idaho on the 21st. If the weather forecast is not favorable on the day before then I'll settle for the .93 eclipse in the Seattle area instead of driving 3-4 hours to watch the total eclipse through the clouds.

Ranb
 
kedo1981 said:
As to "the Moon doesn't affect the crust" that is not true at all, the so called Earth tide is a well established fact.
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No, it's an idea that's been around since September, 2016:

https://www.nature.com/news/moon-s-pull-can-trigger-big-earthquakes-1.20551

The current study will not be the final word on the matter, adds Kao. There are just too many factors that contribute to triggering an earthquake — such as how stress transfers within the ground to cause a geological fault to move — to untangle exactly what role tides might have.
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If the moon has any influence it is just part of a long list of conditions that have lined up in the right order at the right time. The evidence is the thousands of high-tides which are not answered by large quakes, and the large number of big quakes that occur at low tide.

Either way, chances are more people will die from eating a Waffle Houses than will die from something the eclipse does.:thumbsup:
 
I suspect most people would die before finishing the eating of just one Waffle House, much less more than one of them!!!!!!!
 
The path of totality by itself is meaningless. For many eclipses, and typically toward the endpoints of said paths, the Sun/Moon can be and are at a low elevation in the sky (and hence when the tidal force at such locations/times is weak.) In short, it's not at all necessarily the case that on the centerline the Sun/Moon are at the zenith, or even at or near their highest point in the sky. Consider those eclipses where the Moon's umbral shadow just barely clips the Earth in Arctic regions, where the Sun obviously is very low in the sky there.
 
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