Terrorists Thank Germany

[BPSCG]

Okay, Spain's terrorist bombing was justified because Spain had coalition troops in Iraq.

And Britain's terrorist bombing was justified because Britain also has coalition troops in Iraq.

Germany, OTOH, steadfastly, loudly, and publicly opposed the Iraq invasion and supplied no troops. Before the invasion, Germany's chancellor Gerhard Schroder and France's president Jacques Chirac were the best of buddies when attacking American plans for the Iraq invasion.

Their reward?

German prosecutors have arrested one of the men suspected of planting makeshift bombs on trains last month. An investigating judge in Karlsruhe questioned the man on Sunday... and issued a formal warrant for his arrest.

The federal prosecutor said the man was suspected of belonging to a terrorist group and of trying to commit murder on a large scale. Authorities say the plot to blow up passenger trains failed only... because the bombs, didn't go off.

The federal prosecutor described the man as a 21-year-old Lebanese student named Youssef Mohamad E.H. He had been living in Germany for two years.

Germany has escaped the kind of attacks that have killed scores on public transport in Britain and Spain in recent years.

But on Friday, authorities said the two men may have been part of a wider Islamic militant network. And that they had come close to exploding makeshift bombs on two trains in Dortmund and Koblenz last month.

Let's hear it again, all you guys on the left: Islamist rage at the west is fueled by the Iraq invasion. They're reasonable people; if we would just stop pissing them off, they'd stop trying to commit mass murder.

 

[NeilC]

They are not reasonable. But iraq and afghanistan obviously fuel terrorism.

 

[Dancing David]

This just confirms my belief that all terrorists are linked together and operate together in a coordinated fashion like a standard army, thanks for helping me see the light. Maybe you can turn to economics next.

 

[BPSCG]

This just confirms my belief that all terrorists are linked together and operate together in a coordinated fashion like a standard army, thanks for helping me see the light. Maybe you can turn to economics next.

When you're done with your straw man, can I borrow him? We have crows in our backyard and they're eating the tomatoes.

 

[zenith-nadir]

They are not reasonable. But iraq and afghanistan obviously fuel terrorism.

That is a rationalization I find hard to swallow since there was terrorism prior to the invasion of Iraq.

Al Qaeda attacked and exsisted prior to the invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan, Hezbollah attacked and exsisted prior to the invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan, Hamas attacked and exsisted prior to the invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan, the PLO attacked and exsisted prior to the invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan, Jemaa Islamia attacked and exsisted prior to the invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan, Black September attacked and exsisted prior to the invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan, Abu Nidal attacked and exsisted prior to the invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan....the list is long.

I can agree that the invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan is today's rallying cry for the jihadists, but it does not fuel anything, for the fuel, (Islamic extremism), and the fire, (organized islamic terror groups), were operational before America set one foot in Iraq & Afghanistan. "Iraq & Afghanistan" are just the excuse du jour for the Islamic fascists, yesterday it was the "plight of the Palestinians", tomorrow it will be something else to rationalize the suicide bombers, the beheadings on video and the jihad.

 

[Cleon]

Let's hear it again, all you guys on the left: Islamist rage at the west is fueled by the Iraq invasion. They're reasonable people; if we would just stop pissing them off, they'd stop trying to commit mass murder.

When you're done with your straw man, can I borrow him? We have crows in our backyard and they're eating the tomatoes.

 

[Mishka Zaznaykin]

Okay, Spain's terrorist bombing was justified because Spain had coalition troops in Iraq.

And Britain's terrorist bombing was justified because Britain also has coalition troops in Iraq.

Germany, OTOH, steadfastly, loudly, and publicly opposed the Iraq invasion and supplied no troops. Before the invasion, Germany's chancellor Gerhard Schroder and France's president Jacques Chirac were the best of buddies when attacking American plans for the Iraq invasion.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility that this was a Lavon Affair (Operation Susannah) type operation. I'd post a link, but I'm not allowed to post links until I make 15 posts.
Has the captured suspect made any public statements after his capture?

 

[BPSCG]

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[BPSCG]

When you're done with your straw man, can I borrow him? We have crows in our backyard and they're eating the tomatoes.

Okay, I take it back. Our presence in Iraq does not breed new terrorists. You heard it from Cleon first.

 

[Crossbow]

Okay, Spain's terrorist bombing was justified because Spain had coalition troops in Iraq.

And Britain's terrorist bombing was justified because Britain also has coalition troops in Iraq.

Germany, OTOH, steadfastly, loudly, and publicly opposed the Iraq invasion and supplied no troops. Before the invasion, Germany's chancellor Gerhard Schroder and France's president Jacques Chirac were the best of buddies when attacking American plans for the Iraq invasion.

Their reward?
Let's hear it again, all you guys on the left: Islamist rage at the west is fueled by the Iraq invasion. They're reasonable people; if we would just stop pissing them off, they'd stop trying to commit mass murder.

I never heard anyone the "left" (as you say) ever promise that staying out of the war would somehow completely insulate ones nation from terrorist attacks.

I did hear however, that the war would substantially reduce terrorist attacks and be of great aid in bringing peace to Israel while current events have clearly shown that this plan has met with little to no success.

 

[Mephisto]

Let's hear it again, all you guys on the left: Islamist rage at the west is fueled by the Iraq invasion. They're reasonable people; if we would just stop pissing them off, they'd stop trying to commit mass murder.

Who said they were reasonable people, and how is this a blow to the Left? If anything, it proves that, fight them there so we don't have to fight them here," BS isn't working.

If I remember correctly, most Islamic fanatics are against the whole west and not only countries supporting the Iraq war.

 

[zenith-nadir]

Okay, I take it back. Our presence in Iraq does not breed new terrorists. You heard it from Cleon first.

There were terrorists prior to Iraq. There were many many terror attacks prior to Iraq - see: 9-11, Khobar Towers, Yemen, Kenya....

Iraq is just the excuse du jour for the jihadists, yesterday it was "bases in Saudi" and the day before it was the "invasion of Afghanistan", the day before it was the "plight of the Palestinians"... tomorrow who knows what new grievance they will cook up to rationalize their murder & terror.

 

[BPSCG]

Who said they were reasonable people,

Sorry, I didn't have my sarcastic font on.

If anything, it proves that, fight them there so we don't have to fight them here," BS isn't working.

No, it proves that "Don't fight them there and they won't fight us here," is a bunch of BS.

 

[daredelvis]

Okay, strawman.

And strawman.

Germany, OTOH, steadfastly, loudly, and publicly opposed the Iraq invasion and supplied no troops. Before the invasion, Germany's chancellor Gerhard Schroder and France's president Jacques Chirac were the best of buddies when attacking American plans for the Iraq invasion.


Let's hear it again, all you guys on the left: Strawman at the west is strawman by the Iraq invasion. They're strawman; if we would just strawman strawman, they'd strawman strawman strawman.

Fixed your post.

Let us get one thing straight. Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. All clearly it bothers some that all but the most thickheaded are seeing that France and Germany were right to oppose the invasion.

Daredelvis

 

[BPSCG]

I never heard anyone the "left" (as you say) ever promise that staying out of the war would somehow completely insulate ones nation from terrorist attacks.

So you agree with Cleon, then? Iraq is not a breeding ground for new terrorists?

 

[Mephisto]

So you agree with Cleon, then? Iraq is not a breeding ground for new terrorists?

You're twisting Cleon's words, apparently he missed out on your "Sarcastic font" too.

So, fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here doesn't work, but you're blaming liberals who believe our WOT (in particular in Iraq) is only enraging more fanatical Muslims and aiding the terrorists?

 

[Darat]

Sorry, I didn't have my sarcastic font on.No, it proves that "Don't fight them there and they won't fight us here," is a bunch of BS.

No it doesn't BPSCG.

Germany is one of the major faces of the EU, been very active in working with the USA in trying to stop the Iranians "nuclear power research" (aka "how do we squeeze this all together very fast" research) and so on.

 

[Mephisto]

So you agree with Cleon, then? Iraq is not a breeding ground for new terrorists?

You're twisting Cleon's words, apparently he missed out on your "Sarcastic font" too.

(edited to correct myself) Actually, you're not twisting Cleon's words, you're angry that he used your own words against you - he spotted your strawman early on, I guess.

So, fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here doesn't work, but you're blaming liberals who believe our WOT (in particular in Iraq) is only enraging more fanatical Muslims and aiding the terrorists?

 

[Mephisto]

No it doesn't BPSCG.

Germany is one of the major faces of the EU, been very active in working with the USA in trying to stop the Iranians "nuclear power research" (aka "how do we squeeze this all together very fast" research) and so on.

Yeah, but it doesn't really count as support unless they're actively killing people in the name of our war.

 

[BPSCG]

So, fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here doesn't work,

Actually, I believe it does work, or, more accurately, it's one of the things that in toto, does work.

but you're blaming liberals who believe our WOT (in particular in Iraq) is only enraging more fanatical Muslims and aiding the terrorists?

I'm not "blaming" anyone. I'm just pointing out that Germany's strong opposition to the Iraq invasion didn't get them any dispensation from the Islamists, because, as you pointed out, "most Islamic fanatics are against the whole west and not only countries supporting the Iraq war."

I'm a little confused as to your position here. Do you believe that "most Islamic fanatics are against the whole west and not only countries supporting the Iraq war"? Or do you believe that "our WOT (in particular in Iraq) is only enraging more fanatical Muslims"? The two seem to be mutually contradictory.