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Tell a vision

Tricky

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This thread is inspired by Randi's commentary of Oct. 6, 2006. He talked about the "visions" he had which had not come true. It should be quite obvious that too many of the "impossible coincidences" that paranormal believers come up with are the result of selective memory and retrofitting. You rarely remember the visions or predictions you had that didn't come true.

But sometimes you do. That's what I want to see here. Tell us in detail about your failed visions. Here's mine:

When I was about eight and was just coming to grips with the concept of death, I had a vision of my parents' death. They had gone out for the evening and left us with a babysitter. About 9 o'clock (which I considered a reasonable time for them to be home) I started to worry. As the minutes and hours (about two of them) crawled by, I began to piece together a picture. They had been in a car wreck. It was on Oxford road, a twisty stretch of road through cliffs near our home. A large truck had run them off the road, their car hit a tree and had burst into flames. Their spirits flew back to our house and said goodbye to me.

Needless to say, I was more than a little upset. In fact, I was bawling and screaming inconsolably. Our baby-sitter was about to lose it.

Of course, around midnight, the parents came home, totally safe and sound. I was so relieved to see them that I came to them and hugged and cried. I was never so glad to be wrong. But I might not have remembered this at all if it hadn't been for the fact that my parents were furious with me for weeks because that baby-sitter refused to work for us ever again. I was given a good lecture about letting my imagination run away with me. I still remember that lecture. Maybe it is one reason why I am a skeptic today.
 
Tricky said:
This thread is inspired by Randi's commentary of Oct. 6, 2006. He talked about the "visions" he had which had not come true. It should be quite obvious that too many of the "impossible coincidences" that paranormal believers come up with are the result of selective memory and retrofitting. You rarely remember the visions or predictions you had that didn't come true.

But sometimes you do. That's what I want to see here. Tell us in detail about your failed visions. Here's mine:

When I was about eight and was just coming to grips with the concept of death, I had a vision of my parents' death. They had gone out for the evening and left us with a babysitter. About 9 o'clock (which I considered a reasonable time for them to be home) I started to worry. As the minutes and hours (about two of them) crawled by, I began to piece together a picture. They had been in a car wreck. It was on Oxford road, a twisty stretch of road through cliffs near our home. A large truck had run them off the road, their car hit a tree and had burst into flames. Their spirits flew back to our house and said goodbye to me.

Needless to say, I was more than a little upset. In fact, I was bawling and screaming inconsolably. Our baby-sitter was about to lose it.

Of course, around midnight, the parents came home, totally safe and sound. I was so relieved to see them that I came to them and hugged and cried. I was never so glad to be wrong. But I might not have remembered this at all if it hadn't been for the fact that my parents were furious with me for weeks because that baby-sitter refused to work for us ever again. I was given a good lecture about letting my imagination run away with me. I still remember that lecture. Maybe it is one reason why I am a skeptic today.
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I'm happy to report that nearly all the feared outcomes that I visualize happening to me never come to pass. How blessed I am that the Law of Attraction is bunk!
 
My visions do come true, and they blur the line between magick and intuition. Prayers really do get answered. When I was using drugs I used to have mixed up delusions, but I quit using and got into treatment years ago and I don't suffer from the condition any longer. I can barely remember my delusions, but for the most part there was just a voice in my head screaming at me, "You have to stop doing this and get your life together, or else god knows what will happen!". I'd say that was an accurate vision. And otherwise the other experiences I had on drugs, were more like a gateway I knew I was walking through to reach where I was headed. I always knew I would get there, and I have finally arived.
 
I struggle with at what point one is justified in bringing up issues of grammar, spelling, and punctuation.

I should ask, Ericka, is English your first language?
 
Ericka said:
there was just a voice in my head screaming at me, "You have to stop doing this and get your life together, or else god knows what will happen!". I'd say that was an accurate vision.
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That was the juicy part you all missed. I mean, not many people on drugs ever have that go through their heads, do they? ;)
 
Actually, I'd like proof that "god knows what will happen."

To the OP: I used to fly a lot (in planes and dreams only). In the plane type of flying, I am always nervous during take-off. Never during the flight itself and rarely during landing, but for some reason, the take-off frightens me; the ascent feels as if we're struggling up a muddy hill and might lose our grip any second and slide down an airy hill back to earth.

So I've had plenty of visions of exactly that happening. To my knowledge, it hasn't happened yet.
 
I don't like flying over water. Land I'm fine, water...I can just FEEL the plane is going to go down.

This should mean something, but it doesn't. I know why I don't like flying over water, since I saw someone that had drowned after a plane crash. The odd thing is that my brain can somehow overcome my logic, and have me convinced that if I fly over water the plane is going to crash. And not land!

Basically, the brain is weird, and no amount of logic will make me feel relaxed flying over water. But I still do it despite the certainty because while I can not control this irrational fear, I'm not about to let it stop me from flying overseas!
 
I did know twice when someone that was ill was going to die.

I thought it just strange, but nothing paranormal, because being close to these people I perhaps noted a change in thier behavior or some symptom. I just "knew" they were in crisis somehow. Both deaths were very unexpected, even though the person was ill (one was expected to make a full recovery after treatment, being a 90% cure rate).

Now, there quickly followed 2 other unexpected deaths of people I was close to, and I hadn't a CLUE. I was as shocked as everyone else.

So maybe I wasn't as good at picking up clues as I thought!

NOw I think, just a lucky guess on my part - in both cases I had woken in the middle of the night to say (as in one case) "Mary is in trouble! Mary is really sick right now! This is really serious".

I mean, it's scarey. But what is more scarey is that anyone would attribute it to any kind of paranormal crap. We were very close, and she died. It's sad, it's awful, but it's also a coincidence.
 
In middle school I was on the swim team. During practice, towards the end I would start wondering what time it was and how much longer it would be untill practice was over. I would look at the clock and every single day it would say 4:45 and i knew that practice was over in 15 minutes. Every day, shortly after I looked at the clock the whistle would blow and we would get out of the pool, change and go home. I was quite amazed at my ability to look at the clock at the exact same time every day. This went on for a few weeks untill one day in my 10:35 AM gym class we entered the swimming part of our ciriculum. walking out onto the deck i looked up at the clock and laughed at myself when i saw that it read 4:45....
 
Tricky said:
Tell us in detail about your failed visions.
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One night, I had a very vivid dream that my father had had a heart attack. It was disturbing enough that it woke me up (around 2 AM). I was bothered by it so much that I called him on the phone.

Guess what?

That's right. Absolutely nothing to it.

Boy, did I feel stupid!

This happened almost 20 years ago, and he's still just fine (and will soon be 80).
 
Aged 15 I dreamed of walking along a road with three friends. It was a road I recognised, but there was a new house on the LHS. I woke from the dream feeling oddly troubled. (As you do, at 15).
Some 3 months later, the dream came true, or true enough to stop me in my tracks as I walked. For hours I expected the end of the world, but absolutely nothing happened. The new house was there, but my father, with whom I had walked the same road a year earlier, maintained it had been under construction at that time. He was an architect and paid attention to half built houses. I did not.

Aged about 23 I had a series of visual hallucinations (waking dreams) the morning after imbibing some very odd home made wine. Several years later , walking in the Colorado Rockies, I encountered a scene spookily like one of the hallucinations. Again , the memory literally stopped me in my tracks. Felt quite spooky. Again, nothing came of it.

How accurate was my visual memory of the two dream scenes? Rather poor I should think. I encountered something similar enough to bring the original experience back strongly with an emotional shock. That's it.
 
kittynh said:
I did know twice when someone that was ill was going to die.

I thought it just strange, but nothing paranormal, because being close to these people I perhaps noted a change in thier behavior or some symptom. I just "knew" they were in crisis somehow. Both deaths were very unexpected, even though the person was ill (one was expected to make a full recovery after treatment, being a 90% cure rate).

Now, there quickly followed 2 other unexpected deaths of people I was close to, and I hadn't a CLUE. I was as shocked as everyone else.

So maybe I wasn't as good at picking up clues as I thought!

NOw I think, just a lucky guess on my part - in both cases I had woken in the middle of the night to say (as in one case) "Mary is in trouble! Mary is really sick right now! This is really serious".

I mean, it's scarey. But what is more scarey is that anyone would attribute it to any kind of paranormal crap. We were very close, and she died. It's sad, it's awful, but it's also a coincidence.
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As I read this, you are saying that given that someone you were close to would soon die unexpectedly, you had a 50/50 chance of correctly guessing/dreaming that such an event would occur? Somehow, I don't think that was quite what you were trying to get across.

Could you give an estimate of how often you have such dreams and how many were wrong? That is, have you had dozens of dreams wherein someone you were close to was very ill and might die and then woken up to discover that it was not the case - i.e. your dream was incorrect. Otherwise, while you can attribute it to mere coincidence, it seems a rather improbable coincidence.
 
I don't its a paranormal thing, Beth, nor does it seem to me that KittyNH does either.

Mr.Blue is seems to be adept at picking up sickness signals. He is a very close observer of behavior, and then he's an artist who pays attention to skin color. I think that the combination of the two gives him a clue a it earlier than most other folks that someone is teetering on the edge of something. And, no, he never says more than "I think he/she is going to be sick in a couple of days." I'll try to keep track over the cold season this year of his hit/miss ratio and see if this belief is accurate.
 
bluess said:
I don't its a paranormal thing, Beth, nor does it seem to me that KittyNH does either.
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Neither of us are saying that it is paranormal. However, my point is that it isn't a particularly good example for the purposes of this thread unless she has such dreams frequently (perhaps she does) and they are typically not correct. Otherwise, it seems unlikely, which makes the coincidence hypothesis less convincing.
Mr.Blue is seems to be adept at picking up sickness signals. He is a very close observer of behavior, and then he's an artist who pays attention to skin color. I think that the combination of the two gives him a clue a it earlier than most other folks that someone is teetering on the edge of something. And, no, he never says more than "I think he/she is going to be sick in a couple of days." I'll try to keep track over the cold season this year of his hit/miss ratio and see if this belief is accurate.
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Cool. Good idea. I hope you'll post the results of your informal study.

Beth
 
When I was in about 7th grade or so I had a dream about a new kid getting on the bus, who I had never seen before. But I did clearly see his face in the dream, and I had a strong sense that there was something really creepy about him.

The next day on the way to school, the kid got on the bus. Exactly the same face. Scared the crap out of me. And before we made it to school, this kid picked a fight with someone on the bus.

But even back then I figured that I had probably seen him ride the bus before but had not consciously noticed him. Evidently my subconscious did though.
 
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