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Swearing

Swearing is typically used to add emphasis to a statement without adding any actual substance. There are plenty of other words for most situations that convey the desired emphasis while contributing additional meaning.

I think that if you need to use swear words to give your statements extra weight and emotion, then maybe the content of what you are saying is not really all that strong.

For example, any use of the "F" word as an adjective is pointless. It should only be used as a verb or, more rarely, as a noun. In these forms the words have actual merit.

I mostly object to swearing from a grammatical perspective. It does not offend me, but it certainly makes me question the intelligence of the speaker.

Then again, stubbing one's toe is always cause for a slew of empty adjectives ...
 
Merf merf merf. Oh no, we mustn't use curse words because they're bad! Ooh! The magical power of hearing the word "f*ck" compels me to sacrifice children to Satan!

Or: "People who swear have small . . . brain lists . . . of words . . . they make from . . . facehole."

Please. As long as we're doing the anecdote thing, let me point out that there are people who don't "curse" who have very tiny and unimpressive vocabularies and general disregard for the English language, and that there are those who do "curse" who also have verbal skills for which to die.

Look: I'm more than happy to comply with the JREF's rules in re: "inappropriate" language on the forum, but I certainly don't think that the relative frequency of curses-v.-non-curses has anything to do with one's intelligence.

F*cking wankers.
 
You need only look as far as "Full Metal Jacket" to see that swearing can be used as truly creative language.

A friend of mine managed to use the "foulest of foul words" as every part of a grammatically correct sentence once. That was creative.
 
Of course cussing isn't designed to add any intellectual content to a sentance. Its designed purpose is injecting strong emotion into a sentance, something non-cuss-words are hard pressed to do.

"And anyone who doesn't like cussing is an uptight pussy who needs to buy a f**king clue," for example. ;)
 
George Carlin said it best, whatever it was...

Oh, yeah, "Disney can get away with a cartoon character saying, 'Let's snatch that pussy and stuff her into a box!'"

Or was it Lenny Bruce? "So this blah blah blah says blah blach blah."
 
Censorship is good for you!

Foxing censors is fun and seldom difficult. The silly fackers are usually low-level appointees wearing cheap suits. It sharpens your wits to evade their dim-bulb rules and slip in naughty words like schidt and furt and piff and fugg and -- shall I go on?
 
It dates to the Norman Conquest back in 1066. All the Saxon words became bad because the Saxons lost and were enslaved. French words=good; Saxon words=bad. It's as simple as that. The Saxon terms became, quite literally, vulgar. (Latin: of the people, as opposed to the ruling class.) So, while I can easily write the words with French roots such as defecate, urinate, copulate, etc. without fear of reprisal, should I use the entirely synonymous Saxon equivalents, that would not be permitted and even would, by a fit of illiteracy on the part of the JREF moderators, be considered "obscene."

What bothers me is that, almost seven hundred years after the end of French feudalism and the establishment of English common law which led to the two longest-lived representative democracies on the planet, English-speakers still have enough of what amounts to a we're-not-French-enough inferiority complex to consider Saxon words bad.

It isn't even limited to so-called cuss words. "Pork," for some reason, is more acceptable than "swine flesh" or "pig flesh" and nobody even remembers "kine" for cattle, though "cow" survives. But, of course, the lower classes were the ones who tended the animals, so the old Saxon terms survived to described the animals, while their flesh (excuse me, meat) got the French terms when served up as haute cuisine.

Seriously. Four hundred years of slavery, and almost seven hundred years after it, Anglos still symbolically abase themselves in deference to their former masters. It must have been some pretty effective slavery. Even African-Americans do better than Anglos in this regard.
 
Personally I believe people should limit their use of curse words, but they are just words and they are not hurting anyone so I don't see the big deal.
 
Schizobunny said:
Personally I believe people should limit their use of curse words, but they are just words and they are not hurting anyone so I don't see the big deal.
I agree. I'm not offended by them in the least, but I still have difficulty saying them out loud in the presence of others (though I have the mouth of a sailor in private :D).

Despite the irrationality of it, some people are quite offended by cursing, so I think we should try to respect that and try to avoid using it in public.
 
epepke said:
It dates to the Norman Conquest back in 1066. All the Saxon words became bad because the Saxons lost and were enslaved. French words=good; Saxon words=bad. It's as simple as that. The Saxon terms became, quite literally, vulgar. (Latin: of the people, as opposed to the ruling class.) So, while I can easily write the words with French roots such as defecate, urinate, copulate, etc. without fear of reprisal, should I use the entirely synonymous Saxon equivalents, that would not be permitted and even would, by a fit of illiteracy on the part of the JREF moderators, be considered "obscene."

What bothers me is that, almost seven hundred years after the end of French feudalism and the establishment of English common law which led to the two longest-lived representative democracies on the planet, English-speakers still have enough of what amounts to a we're-not-French-enough inferiority complex to consider Saxon words bad.

It isn't even limited to so-called cuss words. "Pork," for some reason, is more acceptable than "swine flesh" or "pig flesh" and nobody even remembers "kine" for cattle, though "cow" survives. But, of course, the lower classes were the ones who tended the animals, so the old Saxon terms survived to described the animals, while their flesh (excuse me, meat) got the French terms when served up as haute cuisine.

Seriously. Four hundred years of slavery, and almost seven hundred years after it, Anglos still symbolically abase themselves in deference to their former masters. It must have been some pretty effective slavery. Even African-Americans do better than Anglos in this regard.
You don't frighten us, you silly English pigdog. Go boil your bottom. Your mother was a hampster and your father smelt of elderberries.
Je m'en feut.
 
For years and years, everyone thought I was a prude because I didn't swear...at all (for all they knew). Then, last year I learned the joys of letting a good swear out. I was repressing myself and expending too much energy on finding proper words to express how I felt.

Those of us that know when to use a swear are fine, its just the people that say it all the effing time, public, in front of children, in front of seniors; they're the ones that need to build a better vocabulary.
 
I don't like to hear kids swearing, it makes them look immature, not cool.

but when I hear my mom use the F word, something she never did when I was growing up...well it just makes me soo proud :D

(ok maybe not proud, but its soo funny to see mom using the F word when she gets angry, its good to let it out once in awhile, it just feels good)
 
What astounds me are those like my deeply religious acquaintances who want to ban not only the generally accepted 'bad' words, but also those that are used to substitute for such words - for example, darn, heck, frickin'. (As Dave Barry writes, I Am Not Making This Up.)

There are parents who chastise their children who use the 'H' word - 'hate.' While it would be a fine world if hate were eliminated, suppressing the word alone (and denying the existence of the raw intense emotions of a child) hardly seems an effective path to significant change (although maybe these parents are simply saying, "You think that you hate NOW, kid - just wait'll you get to be MY age!") .

Some words still do have shock value, and these can become valuable weapons or, conversely, communications bridges among those who have become personally inured to their impact.
 
wildflower1 said:
What astounds me are those like my deeply religious acquaintances who want to ban not only the generally accepted 'bad' words, but also those that are used to substitute for such words - for example, darn, heck, frickin'. (As Dave Barry writes, I Am Not Making This Up.)

I'm pretty sure that I'll get flak for this, but "dam" is the original source of "I don't give a dam." As for fricking, the term is often used to refer to female masturbation, which makes it eminently suitible as a term of dismissal.
 
my sister-in-law who is very religious must have told her children that saying stupid was evil and bad. My kids use that word on occasion towards each other (there are far worse things they can say so they don't really get punished for it, I just usually say "well you know your not stupid so don't sweat the small stuff" and they're cool with it)

but anyhow, one time my lil guy called his older sister stupid when his cousin was around, his cousin told him, he's going to hell for saying that. I dunno maybe its me but I think a 6 year old telling a 4 year old he's going to hell is worse then him calling his sister stupid.
 
scarlet_35 said:
... I dunno maybe its me but I think a 6 year old telling a 4 year old he's going to hell is worse then him calling his sister stupid.
Damn right.
 

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