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Suzanne Hadwin - Council ghostbuster

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I've heard some people wher I work defending the council for giving money to "psychic" Suzanne Hadwin for exorcising the ghost from the council house.

The logic seems to be that it only cost £60 when the alternatives would have been much more expensive.

However, having read another article about it, I wonder if they would still think that it was a harmless gesture and efficient use of council resources.

Mrs Fallon, 23, moved into the three-bedroom council house in Peterlee, County Durham, with her husband Martin and two children in June last year.

They first contacted "ghostbuster" Suzanne Hadwin in December.

"She sent her spiritual guide to the house," Mrs Fallon said yesterday. "Me being me, I was waiting for a knock at the door.

"We got a call back later that night from Suzanne who said there was a male in the house. She said he was really angry and that he was after my youngest daughter Amy who is only 16 months old."
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I'm not sure how many people would consider getting a call saying that your house was haunted by a ghost who was "after" your 16-month-old daughter to be acceptable behaviour.

If I phone someone and say their baby is in danger unless they give me some money do you think the council would go halfers on the payout?
 
"the alternatives would have been much more expensive."

The obvious alternative would have been to not agree to pay half the "psychic's" fee, and to encourage the family to figure out what really was causing their problems. That is, unless "haunted" is a legal reason for refusing a council flat.

Suzanne Hadwin is either extremely deluded or a royal scumbag. Nice for her that she doesn't have to travel to do her job.
 
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Medium Ms Hadwin said she used her "gift" to isolate the spirit in one room and then exorcise it from the house.

"I went into the house and there was a horrible atmosphere," she said.

"I could feel the entity around all the time. He was bombarding the house and the whole family - they were terrified.

"I put down a circle of salt, asked the family to be present and I have now sent him on his way."
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She went into the house? Not at first:

Mrs Fallon, 23, moved into the three-bedroom council house in Peterlee, County Durham, with her husband Martin and two children in June last year.

They first contacted "ghostbuster" Suzanne Hadwin in December.

"She sent her spiritual guide to the house," Mrs Fallon said yesterday. "Me being me, I was waiting for a knock at the door.

"We got a call back later that night from Suzanne who said there was a male in the house. She said he was really angry and that he was after my youngest daughter Amy who is only 16 months old.
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That is not "helping". That is spreading agony, fear and terror.
 
Suzanne hardwin, council ghostbuster?

I've read several of your comments and can i just say a BIG UP to that Council for identifying the needs and beleifs of the family.

Everyone of you out there has the right to your own views and opinions, but ive got to say how pleased i am about the family being able to approach their council for help, and not having to suffer being laughed at, ignored, rejected etc.?

It must have been very difficult for the family going through this fear let alone approaching their council, in fear of thinking that they may not be taken seriously?

Who knows what's really out there and who are we to know others beleifs etc. It's very easy to poo poo stuff but to the family in question it was real for them whether we beleive it or not thier fear seemed very real?

And if you want to knock that why is it then that insurance companies have a view point of 'an act of God' in their policies? What does this tell us?

It seems, in my view those that knock other fears of spirits, poltergiests and the like, are they also knocking the beleifs that founded nations?

So if that's the case what is wrong with this family having beliefs that their home really is haunted by a force of somekind?

I know these could be strong views but i really feel strongly about what people are saying in these forums.

Something to bear in mind perhaps, I bet someone knows somebody personally that has experienced something that they can't explain , that could be deemed as possibly paranormal?
 
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Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. They are not entitled to have those beliefs subsidized by the taxpayers.
 
bubblygirl said:
And if you want to knock that why is it then that insurance companies have a view point of 'an act of God' in their policies? What does this tell us?
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A manifestation especially of a violent or destructive natural force, such as a lightning strike or earthquake, that is beyond human power to cause, prevent, or control.

bubblygirl said:
It seems, in my view those that knock other fears of spirits, poltergiests and the like, are they also knocking the beleifs that founded nations?
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What nation was founded on getting taken for a ride by con artists?

bubblygirl said:
So if that's the case what is wrong with this family having beliefs that their home really is haunted by a force of somekind?
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They are free to believe what they want, just as we are free to laugh at them.

bubblygirl said:
I know these could be strong views but i really feel strongly about what people are saying in these forums.
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There is a lot of wisdom in these forums, sometimes it is hard to see when you are blinded by your beliefs.

bubblygirl said:
Something to bear in mind perhaps, I bet someone knows somebody personally that has experienced something that they can't explain , that could be deemed as possibly paranormal?
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I have experienced much that I couldn't explain. The default answer is not found in the paranormal. To write everything off that we don't understand as ghosts, or god, or any other form of woo is irresponsible.
 
Miss Whiplash said:
Someone living in a council flat and spinning a haunted house yarn for starters.
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I wouldn't draw much from the fact that they are both council houses, as back in 1977 well over 25% of housing in England was LA stock.
 
brodski said:
I wouldn't draw much from the fact that they are both council houses, as back in 1977 well over 25% of housing in England was LA stock.
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Cultural misunderstanding on my part then. In America, we have much less government subsidized housing and it works a bit different here. What is a good link about the subject to educate myself?
 
Miss Whiplash said:
Cultural misunderstanding on my part then. In America, we have much less government subsidized housing and it works a bit different here. What is a good link about the subject to educate myself?
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If you want data on housing in England (housing policy is devolved to the Scottish and Welsh government) check out the English House Condition Survey and eth Survey of Eglish housing
http://www.communities.gov.uk/housing/housingresearch/housingsurveys/englishhousecondition/
http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications/housing/sehprelimresults0607

A good overview of council housing is here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_house

there are two principle types of Social Housing in England the council house (government owned) and that owned by a Registered Social landlord (often called housing associations) RSLs are not government owned, but may receive some public subsidy- although they are largely self financing and operate on a not-for-profit basis.

More in depth discussion of the current state of social housing in England can be found here

http://www.communities.gov.uk/housing/

Only approximately 1/3 of English local authorities own housing stock, all local authority regions contain some form of social housing.

The proportion of social housing within the total housing stock has been in sharp decline since the 1980's, when the government introduced the Right To Buy scheme, which meant that people renting low cost housing from their council could buy their home at a massive discount. the are currently around 4 million social homes England, with around 1/2 government owned.

I'll stop now before I de-rail this thread, and you never have to worry about insomnia again...
 
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bubblygirl said:
I've read several of your comments and can i just say a BIG UP to that Council for identifying the needs and beleifs of the family.

Everyone of you out there has the right to your own views and opinions, but ive got to say how pleased i am about the family being able to approach their council for help, and not having to suffer being laughed at, ignored, rejected etc.?

It must have been very difficult for the family going through this fear let alone approaching their council, in fear of thinking that they may not be taken seriously?
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I agree.

bubblygirl said:
Who knows what's really out there and who are we to know others beleifs etc. It's very easy to poo poo stuff but to the family in question it was real for them whether we beleive it or not thier fear seemed very real?
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I think this is where we part ways regarding the topic. Allow me to explain: What is really out there is what's been there all along - the universe. It's ignorance that creates fear, because people fear the unknown - and if you know nothing, you fear everything.

Yes, their fear was probably real enough, but it's based in their minds, not reality.

bubblygirl said:
And if you want to knock that why is it then that insurance companies have a view point of 'an act of God' in their policies? What does this tell us?
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It tells us that insurance companies want to be absolved of their fiduciary responsibilities if a cataclysmic event occurs in a given locale.

bubblygirl said:
It seems, in my view those that knock other fears of spirits, poltergiests and the like, are they also knocking the beleifs that founded nations?
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Name one nation founded upon any of that. Just one will do. :)

bubblygirl said:
So if that's the case what is wrong with this family having beliefs that their home really is haunted by a force of somekind?
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What's wrong with it is that the true source of their emotional distress is unidentified - and therefore cannot be addressed. This increases the likelihood that they will continue to suffer in one form or another from the real root cause of their misery, whatever that may be.

bubblygirl said:
I know these could be strong views but i really feel strongly about what people are saying in these forums.
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Just don't allow "feeling strongly" to close your mind to the discussion at hand. :)

bubblygirl said:
Something to bear in mind perhaps, I bet someone knows somebody personally that has experienced something that they can't explain , that could be deemed as possibly paranormal?
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How about me?

:)

Yep, I've experienced things I can't explain that could be deemed as paranormal. They also fall under the category of "Things I can't explain that can be deemed natural". The scorecard shows that "natural" wins 100% of the time so far... so that's where *my* money is. :)
 
bubblygirl said:
Something to bear in mind perhaps, I bet someone knows somebody personally that has experienced something that they can't explain , that could be deemed as possibly paranormal?
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It has been said that rational people do not have a problem with a UFO - an unidentified flying object. It is when people begin to insist on identifying them that the problems start.
 
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shadron said:
It has been said that rational people do not have a problem with a UFO - an unidentified flying object. It is when people begin to insist on identifying them that the problems start.
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Nominated! :)
 
Bubblygirl, will you give us your opinion on somebody who phones up - doesn't even come and tell them in person - a family and tells them out of the blue that there is an evil spirit in their house that is threatening their baby daughter?
How is instilling fear and paranoia helping somebody?
 
shadron said:
It has been said that rational people do not have a problem with a UFO - an unidentified flying object. It is when people begin to insist on identifying them that the problems start.
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Not quite right so I have fixed it below

It has been said that rational people do not have a problem with a UFO - an unidentified flying object. It is when people begin to insist on identifying them as from another world that the problems start.

Identifying them as a 747 aircraft is fine.
 
are you familiar with ALL insurance policies , im certainly not?? I am aware of such wording in an inusrance policy that i have had.
 
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