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Suicidal man causes train wreck

Lisa Simpson

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There has been a bad train derailment in LA today. Turns out the guy who caused it was trying to kill himself. He decided to park his car on the tracks, but then changed his mind. When he couldn't get the car off the tracks, he got out of the car and left it. Then the Metrorail hit the car causing the train to derail, killing 10 people.

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Lisa Simpson said:
There has been a bad train derailment in LA today. Turns out the guy who caused it was trying to kill himself. He decided to park his car on the tracks, but then changed his mind. When he couldn't get the car off the tracks, he got out of the car and left it. Then the Metrorail hit the car causing the train to derail, killing 10 people.

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A least the person over here had the decency to go through with it.
 
According to reports, he had also slit his wrists (I'm going to guess he went "across the street" rather than "down the block") and had stabbed himself prior.

While my feelings towards the suicidal can best be described as "impatiently sympathetic" (I honestly feel for you, but don't be a ****ing dumba**) the word is "suicide" and it means to kill yourself, not someone else, not ten other people, just yourself.

The man is going to be charged with homicide. It'll be interesting to see what will happen if convicted...
 
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geni said:
A least the person over here had the decency to go through with it.
There's no evidence as yet that the car driver in the Berkshire crash intended suicide. At the preliminary inquest, it was stated that he was not drunk or drugged, was fully clothed and in the car, was on one of his usual routes home and had shown no signs of odd behaviour when leaving work earlier.
 
I'm still waiting for the hypersensitive crowd to peek out from under their shared rock and begin pleading for understanding and sympathy for this moronic f*ckstick. If he thought his life sucked before, he ain't seen nothin' yet. I hope he gets a good last look at his belt and shoelaces, because I don't think they'll ever let him near them again.
 
I don't think the sympathizers will come out from under their rock today, or even the next couple of weeks. People are too much in shock right now. They will probably come out with the trial, which is at least a couple of months away.
 
Hypersensitive today aren't we? One whacko somewhere expresses some sympathy for this nitwit, and you will be dribbling your drawers with 'I told you so' happiness.
 
fishbob said:
Hypersensitive today aren't we? One whacko somewhere expresses some sympathy for this nitwit, and you will be dribbling your drawers with 'I told you so' happiness.

No, I was referncing the angst-ridden hand-wringing that accompanied the story of the schmuck who offed himself at ground zero because he was so upset Kerry lost. THAT hypersensitive crowd. Maybe you know them?

Where "I told you so" comes into it is that there will be no such tribute of analysis and speculation for the victims of this thoughtless prick's actions. Not enough drama to arouse the interest, see. They didn't have the chance to write farewell notes, after all, and there's nothing to parse.
 
a_unique_person said:
People are often doing that sort of thing, although not in their cars. The press and authorities try to keep it quiet to prevent copy-cats sucicides.

What the media ought to do is cover the victims' families - hell, even the people who are pissed off by the delayed commute - and let would-be copycats know what their legacy would really be.

Even if they don't give a crap about themselves, maybe the toaster-in-the-bathtub crowd will think twice about the idea of a million people cursing their name after they're gone.
 
Jocko said:
I'm still waiting for the hypersensitive crowd to peek out from under their shared rock and begin pleading for understanding and sympathy for this moronic f*ckstick. If he thought his life sucked before, he ain't seen nothin' yet. I hope he gets a good last look at his belt and shoelaces, because I don't think they'll ever let him near them again.

Ooh, look a the baiting and vilification!

Jocko, your agenda is showing, would you mind tucking it back in?

I haven't seen anyone defend this dweeb, and neither have you. Yeah, it's a shame he was suicidal, but he's responsible for what he did. He may even get his way yet, and get injected 10 years from now.
 
Jocko said:
What the media ought to do is cover the victims' families - hell, even the people who are pissed off by the delayed commute - and let would-be copycats know what their legacy would really be.
That's not a bad idea, but why rely on the media to provide basic education? If public schools were to provide more than just abstinence-only suicide-education, wouldn't the toaster-in-the-bathtub crowd be less likely to cause harm to the toaster-out-of-the-bathtub crowd?
 
So when is Hollywood going to make a movie about this guy? Or perhaps this would make a good reality TV show? Let's see how suicidal Joe will try to kill himself this week.
 
jj said:
Ooh, look a the baiting and vilification!

Well, you bit, so the baiting worked. As to the villification, what would you say is unworthy of villification here?

Jocko, your agenda is showing, would you mind tucking it back in?

Really? Please tell me what it is, I hear a lot about it but no seems to be willing to tell me.

I haven't seen anyone defend this dweeb, and neither have you. Yeah, it's a shame he was suicidal, but he's responsible for what he did. He may even get his way yet, and gt injected 10 years from now.

That would be too good for him. Make it 50 years.

BTW... yeah, that's a shame he was suicidal. No, "yeah, that's a shame this idiot killed 10 people with lives worth a ◊◊◊◊." Thanks for proving my point. Consider your ass successfully baited.

Bitch.
 
Jocko said:
BTW... yeah, that's a shame he was suicidal. No, "yeah, that's a shame this idiot killed 10 people with lives worth a ◊◊◊◊." Thanks for proving my point. Consider your ass successfully baited.

Bitch.

Ahh, yes, now you're taking the dishonest BobK approach and trying to say I said something I didn't.

You're a bully, trying to take advantage of the death of 10 people at this loser's hand for political gain.
 
I don't want to der....sorry, hijack this thread into a discussion about the nobility or ignobility of choosing suicide. But this case does bring up a question that I've had to ask myself several times following news stories about suicide.

That question is: what's wrong with these idiots? We're supposed to think that long an careful consideration goes into a person's decision to commit suicide, but I have a hard time buying that. It makes no sense that somebody would think about a topic so carefully and completely, when it's apparent that after the decision is made, his brain completely melts and oozes out his ears. What I'm talking about is the methods these people use to commit their choice.

These people figure life is so horrible and unbearable that they want to end it - fine. They can end it any way they want to - they can end it peacefully and quietly, and it's not that difficult. But sometimes it seems to me that fully half, if not a clear majority, of people who choose suicide pick the absolute most horrific ways to die imaginable. "Quick and painless? Nah, I'll just stab myself in the stomach and spend four agonizing hours waiting for my digestive fluids to eat enough of my internal organs to kill me." Or, "I'll take a nail gun and shoot myself in the brain, which will only have a 30% chance of killing me, but something like a 40% chance of leaving me alive and unable to take care of myself." This loser decided to park his car on the train tracks, where the subsequent collision could possibly burn, maim, impale, or crush parts of him. Bet he wouldn't have died right away, though. Idiots!
 
TruthSeeker said:
Just curious, have there been any reports on whether this guy was stoned or drunk?
Good question.
In the case of the Berkshire train crash, there was a slew of sensationalist reports in the press a couple of days after, about how this guy was drunk, stoned, driving his car up and down the track, screaming that he wanted to die, was naked and running around etc, etc. All completely untrue, it turned out.
Every disaster, you'll get some pillock turning up and telling the press that he saw the whole thing - when he was never even there, much less witnessing anything. For instance, a few years ago there was a huge train crash in Germany. The BBC news cameras rushed to the spot and couldn't believe their luck when they found an English "witness" who proceeded to tell them, live, about how he had seen a vehicle falling off a bridge in front of the train. A total pack of lies, it turned out (it was a derailment).
So, wait for the investigation.
 
Jocko said:
No, I was referncing the angst-ridden hand-wringing that accompanied the story of the schmuck who offed himself at ground zero because he was so upset Kerry lost. THAT hypersensitive crowd. Maybe you know them?

Where "I told you so" comes into it is that there will be no such tribute of analysis and speculation for the victims of this thoughtless prick's actions. Not enough drama to arouse the interest, see. They didn't have the chance to write farewell notes, after all, and there's nothing to parse.

But the two cases are completely different. On the one hand you have someone who shoots himself dead - nobody else involved. On the other hand you have someone who kills himself in a manner likely to injure and (as it turned out) kill other people in the process.

It's difficult to drum up much sympathy for that.
 
Joshua Korosi said:
I don't want to der....sorry, hijack this thread into a discussion about the nobility or ignobility of choosing suicide. But this case does bring up a question that I've had to ask myself several times following news stories about suicide.

That question is: what's wrong with these idiots? We're supposed to think that long an careful consideration goes into a person's decision to commit suicide, but I have a hard time buying that. It makes no sense that somebody would think about a topic so carefully and completely, when it's apparent that after the decision is made, his brain completely melts and oozes out his ears. What I'm talking about is the methods these people use to commit their choice.

These people figure life is so horrible and unbearable that they want to end it - fine. They can end it any way they want to - they can end it peacefully and quietly, and it's not that difficult. But sometimes it seems to me that fully half, if not a clear majority, of people who choose suicide pick the absolute most horrific ways to die imaginable. "Quick and painless? Nah, I'll just stab myself in the stomach and spend four agonizing hours waiting for my digestive fluids to eat enough of my internal organs to kill me." Or, "I'll take a nail gun and shoot myself in the brain, which will only have a 30% chance of killing me, but something like a 40% chance of leaving me alive and unable to take care of myself." This loser decided to park his car on the train tracks, where the subsequent collision could possibly burn, maim, impale, or crush parts of him. Bet he wouldn't have died right away, though. Idiots!

From what I know, sometimes it's the pain they're looking for, sometimes it's just the distortion of rational thought or lack thereof.

And yes, there are much less painless ways to kill yourself, likepotassium chloride.
 

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