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Stop Jenny McCarthy

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I'm very troubled by the rising media presence of Jenny McCarthy lately. She's really taken the lead role in the antivaccination movement's PR. Very rarely do any other figures in that movement make television appearances.

It got me thinking about how Robert Lancaster established a great model for skeptical action by targeting a specific prominent figure within a specific field of woo instead of trying to take on the whole field. In doing so, not only did he ensure that virtually anyone Googling Sylvia Browne would also find the skeptical response but he gave the mainstream media a specific go-to guy to invite on as the token skeptic. Lancaster sort of became the arch nemesis of Sylvia Browne in the same way that Randi became Uri Geller's arch nemesis. And since the mainstream news media is looking for conflict and a good story Randi and Lancaster have made the media's jobs easier by giving them one clear, obvious choice when seeking a critic of either of these two clowns.

Now lately Jenny McCarthy has been allowed to speak her nonsense on various TV programs without anyone invited on to challenge her. Fair and balanced seems to have gone out the window. So maybe the media just doesn't have anyone specific to turn to, so they just do the softball interview with Jenny because it's easy. And so I was thinking that it might be a good idea to create a website specifically scrutinizing Jenny's claims as opposed to the general criticisms of the whole movement. And inspired by Robert Lancaster, I looked up the URL: stopjennymccarthy.com and it is available should anyone wish to purchase it. I'm not web savvy at all but would love to be involved in a project like that.

And I think the beauty of following the Lancaster model of honing in on just one prominent figure within the larger movement is that we give the media a clear go-to critic to invite on to challenge Jenny's claims, essentially creating an arch nemesis. This really isn't Randi's forte. Steve Novella and Orac have certainly done a phenomenal job refuting the claims of the larger movement but they're not likely to be invited onto some crappy talk show like Larry King to debate Jenny head-to-head. Dr. Paul Offit seems like the obvious leader against the antivaccine movement but for whatever reason he's not getting invited, maybe because the antivaccination movement has so effectively instilled in the public's mind that he's in "Big Pharma's" pockets. And even if Amanda Peet became Jenny's arch nemesis, do we really want to pass that kind of immense responsibility to a movie star? Granted, she seems to be a smart movie star but still. So right now there's no good, clear opponent on our side for the media to choose from.

Right now this is just a vague idea but I would love to hear people's feedback on this and would like to know if anyone would seriously be interested in getting involved in a project like this.
 
Yes. Someone please do something. She was pushing her book passionately on Ellen today. She says she is giving parents of Autistic children a VOICE, and a loud one at that.

Her claim is that autism can be healed (rather than cured), much like a body after an accident. To her, autism is an accident to heal from, not a disease that needs to be addressed.

Her claim is that you must do crazy things to heal them.

What the total pea-brain doesn't know or acknowledge is that children with autism do get better as they age after that brain blip they hurdle over around 2 years of age when that brain development stage in autistics set them back.

She also ignores how different the children's brains are from birth. They have bigger brains that don't develop properly during the brain development stage that happens around 2 years of age. They understandably regress. She blames this on everything but genetics, when it is the genes that have developed the abnormal brain in the first place that leads to the development flop.

The media is eating this up, cuz she's all PERTY and famous and has a big mouth. There needs to be a dissenting voice.

Thing is, someone needs to read her stupid book, debunk the crap out of it and her fracced up sources, and get some attention for it. I don't think I could stomach reading that book. I barely got through 30 seconds of watching her on Ellen.
 
http://autismdiva.blogspot.com/

The autism diva is trying. I wonder if she has web space enough to devote just to this topic on a separate page or something? A little better layout with headings would go a long way.

Maybe someone can work with her to send out a media blip on why McCarthy is simply wrong.

McCarthy's son was diagnosed with epilepsy at age 2 1/2 and a few weeks after that as being autistic. She said on Oprah that after his being diagnosed as having epilepsy, her mommy instinct told her something was wrong. Well, yeah, he has epilepsy. But when she got the autism diagnosis her mommy instinct told her that was right. But she "happened to say", 'Well, I believe my son is trapped inside.

Another weird thing is that before her son had seizures, at age one at least, he had symptoms of autism. A woman who worked at a "play gym" where Jenny had taken her son to play asked Jenny if the boy had a "brain problem." Jenny responded by getting the woman fired (she said this with no sign of shame, on Oprah). So it wasn't ok for a stranger who works around children to ask if her child had a brain problem, but it was OK for a stranger to tell her that he's a Crystal. One supposes that that is because "Crystal" sounds special and "brain problem" sounds like a put down, or maybe cause one to fear one had done something to cause it.

Frac sakes. Celebrities can get away with anything. Someone else loses their job because them. Very familiar, and why I also lay low now. I've learned the hard way just like that too much the last few years. I hope someone without 3 kids to feed, and not bring negative attenion to, can do more. Once the woo woo has the public adoration, then anyone saying anything that goes against their heart tugging anecdote is the devil.
 
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In autism, subtle brain abnormalities are present from birth. Infants and toddlers move their bodies differently. From 6 months to 2 years, their heads grow much too fast. Parts of their brain have too many connections, while other parts are underconnected.
Moreover, their brains show signs of chronic inflammation in the same areas that show excessive growth. The inflammation appears to last a lifetime.

In autism, white matter grows normally until 9 months, Dr. Herbert said. Then it goes haywire. By 2 years, excessive white matter is found in the frontal lobes, the cerebellum and association areas, where higher-order processing occurs.
The right side of the brain, the nonverbal hemisphere, is especially encased in white matter. The two sides of the brain are poorly connected. Moreover, small functional regions in each hemisphere tend to be prematurely insulated by excess white matter.


A 5-year-old with autism has the same size brain as a normal 13-year-old.

By looking at videotapes of their early months, before their disorders are diagnosed, he finds that autistic children use unusual strategies for locomotion. It is as if the parts of their brains that control movements are not properly connected.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...93BA35751C0A9639C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

McCarthy's kid also had epilepsy.

She has the nerve to blame the kid's problems simply on vaccines. Well, vaccines don't cause enlarged brains, epilepsy, or anything else actually related to autism for frac's sakes.
 
Yeah, an anti-Jenny website could go to town on all that "Crystal" stuff. She even has an essay floating around the internet where she clearly makes this claim. And any basic search as to what that means will turn up that Jenny is saying herself that Evan isn't even really "autistic", that he was born "special", and that his autistic-seeming condition is a good thing as it shows that he's really the next evolution of humanity. Plus it sounds as crazy as Scientology, meaning it would be an instant turn-off to many supporters of hers who've never heard about it.
 
Maybe someone can work with her to send out a media blip on why McCarthy is simply wrong.

Did you see my post regarding Amanda Peet? I found another great quote from her:
"I’m not a doctor, which brings me to another point. It seems like the media is often giving celebrities and actors more authority on this issue than they’re giving the experts and that’s a sad fact. And I know that’s a paradox - that’s part of why I wanted to become a spokesperson, so I could say, ‘Please don’t listen to me, don’t listen to the actors, go to the experts."​
She (Amanda Peet) is a spokesperson for "Every Child By Two".
 
Too bad the smarter people don't have the connections to get them on talk shows and the attention that flakes are getting instead. A good reason to shun the usual media. Frac frac frac. Easier said than done.

Amanda Peet and Autism Diva have laid some foundations. How do they get on talk shows then? Do they have to get as much plastic surgery as the flakes do? Argh.
 
Okay. Site can be built, but someone needs to volunteer to be the face/contact of it before the domain name is bought and work on the website started. Any volunteers? Please PM me asap.
 
anyhoo, currently anonymous parties have started something.

www.stopjenny.com

I've heard having stopjennymccarthy.com might give her rights to her name, sooo jenny is just a name that is not just hers.
 
100% agreed.


But throw in "Stop Bill Maher" as well since Maher's rejection of modern medicine (he beleives that Germs do not exist) and his pushing of the idea that all disease is caused by a bad diet and that medicine is actually hurting you is even more dangerous then the crap that McCarthy is pushing.
And what makes Maher dangerous is that opposition to Religon has given him a certain amount of Cred that otherwise he would not have.
 
Subbing.

I can't believe people take her seriously on this issue, but apparently "mommy cred" has more influence than this batchelor thought previously.
 
So what statements do you wanted targeted for debunking?
 
Jenny said on Oprah that she chose to go with the GFCF diet and antifungal drugs after getting her son's blood and stool checked. It's likely that she got the Candida blood test results from one of the providers of questionable lab tests favored by quacks. Yeast (Candida) is a big topic of discussion on autism "biomed" parent forums. They are chock full of parents discussing how they diagnose "yeastiness" from the child's behavior as in, "Oh, I can tell when Johnny is yeasty, because he starts acting crazy...." "Yeastiness" can be "diagnosed" by these parents just by looking at a child's behavior. Jenny explained how she had to break off from seeing Jim Carrey for some time because her son had gone "crazy" from yeast and needed her full attention.

Jenny doesn't attribute his development to, uh, development, but to her magical mystery cures that she got by way of quack dox and quackery promoting autism websites which of course, she discovered by doing "Google research."

On Oprah.com, Jenny takes time out from her busy schedule to spread lies about vaccines, like they contain "aborted fetal tissue." Thanks, Jenny. Thanks, Oprah.


Kevin Leitch on his newly reworked blog, "Left Brain/Right Brain" discusses Evan being Jenny's science, and value of Jenny McCarthy to autism and autistics as opposed to the value of her son's being autistic to Jenny.

Apparently, Jenny feels like she was destined to have an autistic child (or maybe it's that she was destined to have a Crystal child but got stuck with one that was also autstic) because she has said she felt she was destined to vaccinate her son and cause him to become autistic.
http://autismdiva.blogspot.com/

Gahhhhhh. Typical same old. Now all over the media again cuz this bimbo has a calling to be the "voice of parents".
Blaming MMR on the Oprah show:
http://www.oprah.com/slideshow/oprahshow/oprahshow1_ss_20070918/5
 
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This author doesn't seem so impressed with McCarthy:
In Audition, Ms. Walters discusses her life growing up with a special needs sister. Soooo, back to the mind-reading: Jenny McCarthy says that Barbara Walters was angry that she (Jenny) cured her son, while Barbara Walters had to go through tough times with her sister.

Of course, she and Jim Carrey have been (and will almost certainly continue to be) proud supporters of Generation Rescue. They paid for a full page ad in USA Today—which I seem to recall being about $200,000. The thing is, I don’t consider that benefiting the autism community—or the community at large.

Jenny McCarthy’s potential for book profits are obvious. By improving her “brand” she also stands to gain from sales of her educational DVD’s and her soon to roll-out “Too Good by Jenny” products.

This sort of observation begs for comparison. As long as Jenny McCarthy is attacking Amanda Peet, let’s take a look at how much Amanda Peet makes from being a spokesperson for Every Child By Two and their Vaccinate Your Baby campaign.

ZILCH
http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/?p=1477
 
100% agreed.


But throw in "Stop Bill Maher" as well since Maher's rejection of modern medicine (he beleives that Germs do not exist) and his pushing of the idea that all disease is caused by a bad diet and that medicine is actually hurting you is even more dangerous then the crap that McCarthy is pushing.
And what makes Maher dangerous is that opposition to Religon has given him a certain amount of Cred that otherwise he would not have.

Has he changed his mind on vaccination and germ theory? Because last year he was railing about Christians who were against the HPV vaccine. So he didn't sound anti vaccine there, and certainly seemed to believe that HPV could cause cervical cancer.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/03/02/hpv/
 
Yeah, I'm not sure if Maher has changed his stance or not but Maher isn't very active in promoting these things whereas Jenny McCarthy has become their chief spokesperson. She's got yet another book that is everywhere. I even saw it in my grocery store (I covered it with another book). And Jenny is doing the daytime talk show rounds. In the past few days she's been on Oprah and Ellen. She'll probably be on The View too soon. Dr. Oz is getting his own show and I'm sure he'll probably invite Jenny on since he already gets most of his medical "knowledge" from non-doctors anyway. Jenny is the public face of this problem and that is why she needs to be the target.
 
...They are chock full of parents discussing how they diagnose "yeastiness" from the child's behavior...

Probably from excessive scratching of inappropriate body regions.
 

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