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So what does this mean?

FireGarden

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IAF drops leaflets

"You must know that the expansion of Hezbollah terrorist operations will lead to a painful and strong response, and its painful results will not be confined to Hassan's gang and criminals," it added.

The leaflets were signed, "The State of Israel."
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Is it a philosophical shrug regarding collatoral damage? Or is it a threat?
 
FireGarden said:
Is it a philosophical shrug regarding collatoral damage? Or is it a threat?
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It appears to be a warning, one far more fair than love and war deserves.

I recommend the effected lebonon heed it it well.

The underlying message is; "perhaps you should rethink your priorities and loyalties."
 
The UN Peacekeeping force & anyone too old or poor to leave the area?
 
Rob Lister said:
The underlying message is; "perhaps you should rethink your priorities and loyalties."
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Which were, for the record:

Wednesday, November 07, 2001

Lebanon will not freeze Hezbollah's assets as it is a resistance movement instead of a terrorist organization, Finance Minister Fouad Siniora said Tuesday.
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Emphasis mine.

April 23, 2006 - 11:00 ET

BLITZER: You're here in Washington. The State Department, the Bush administration, the U.S. government considers Hezbollah to be a terrorist organization with close ties to Syria and Iran.

What do you think Hezbollah is?

SINIORA: We see it, in Lebanon, differently, that Hezbollah is a Lebanese party, which was quite effective in empowering the Lebanese.
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Emphasis mine.

July 31, 2006 01:47am

LEBANESE Prime Minister Fouad Siniora thanked Hezbollah for its "sacrifices" in its war against Israel.
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Emphasis mine.

May 29th 2005

Sa'd Al-Hariri - former Lebanese President Rafiq Al-Hariri's son - interviewed on Al Manar - "We support Hezbollah".
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...and on...and on...and on...
 
There's an old Buddhist proverb that goes something like "If one wishes to be friends with an elephant keeper, make sure one has room for elephants". If the Lebanese, like the Afghans, want to be friends with terrorists, that is their right. They should not be surprised, however, when their friends' enemies show up with some scores to settle. The enemy of my enemy may not necessarily be my friend, but the friend of my enemy becomes my enemy in direct proportion to how friendly he is with my enemy.
 
TragicMonkey said:
There's an old Buddhist proverb that goes something like "If one wishes to be friends with an elephant keeper, make sure one has room for elephants". If the Lebanese, like the Afghans, want to be friends with terrorists, that is their right. They should not be surprised, however, when their friends' enemies show up with some scores to settle. The enemy of my enemy may not necessarily be my friend, but the friend of my enemy becomes my enemy in direct proportion to how friendly he is with my enemy.
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a most profound Tragic post
 
TragicMonkey said:
Confucius: "Profundity bundity wundity bee! The cat jumped over the tree! Moribundity chlorunity vundity blog! The cat jumped over the dog!"

From Collected Drunken Ramblings of Confucius
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'Tis here that I admit that I got lost somewhere between the third mention of enemy and the first mention of friend. Your new quote actually makes more sense.

Tragically profound, yet again.
 
TragicMonkey said:
.............. but the friend of my enemy becomes my enemy in direct proportion to how friendly he is with my enemy.
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As long as they are not civilians, right?:boggled:

ETA: Just came across this on Google

“When a general is attacking a town he should endeavour with all diligence to relieve its defenders of their obstinacy…..by explaining that no attack is being made on the common good but only on a few ambitions citizens”.
Machiavelli
 
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Elind said:
As long as they are not civilians, right?:boggled:
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I don't see why I should tolerate aid and abetment to my enemies by people who don't happen to be enlisted in a nation's armed forces. If they are being coerced into assisting my enemies, naturally, that's a different matter. But if they are collaborating willingly, why on earth would that exempt them from retribution?
 
TragicMonkey said:
I don't see why I should tolerate aid and abetment to my enemies by people who don't happen to be enlisted in a nation's armed forces. If they are being coerced into assisting my enemies, naturally, that's a different matter. But if they are collaborating willingly, why on earth would that exempt them from retribution?
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Does that mean suicide bombing and 9/11 are justified?
 
a_unique_person said:
Does that mean suicide bombing and 9/11 are justified?
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Do you mean morally justified (in keeping with Tragic Monkey's quote) or militarily justified? If a country/people don't have the means to deliver explosives via conventional methods (i.e. fighter aircraft, artillery, etc.) might they be justified in using fanatical "suiciders" to do it for them?
 
a_unique_person said:
Does that mean suicide bombing and 9/11 are justified?
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The people who did it thought so. "Justification" is a fancy word one uses when trying to persuade other people of the rightness of one's actions. An action is considered "justified" by any given person when that person agrees with the argument made by the actor about why he was right to do it. Which contributes nothing towards assessing the good or evil of anything; "justification" is essentially just an opinion poll with a space for explaining why you hold that particular opinion.
 
TragicMonkey said:
The people who did it thought so. "Justification" is a fancy word one uses when trying to persuade other people of the rightness of one's actions. An action is considered "justified" by any given person when that person agrees with the argument made by the actor about why he was right to do it. Which contributes nothing towards assessing the good or evil of anything; "justification" is essentially just an opinion poll with a space for explaining why you hold that particular opinion.
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A bit lengthier, but more precise than my version.
 
Mephisto said:
Do you mean morally justified (in keeping with Tragic Monkey's quote) or militarily justified? If a country/people don't have the means to deliver explosives via conventional methods (i.e. fighter aircraft, artillery, etc.) might they be justified in using fanatical "suiciders" to do it for them?
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If suicide bombers attack military targets it's perfectly justified. But their MO is to get on a bus, enter a restaurant, etc. and kill as many civilians as possible. No excuse for that, is there?
 
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