Smoke COMES from fire, duh

[1337m4n]

Can anyone explain to me what the deal is with this new meme among Truthers where they deny the existence of fires in pictures that show a great deal of smoke? Is this some new denial tactic? Some new persuasive techniques? Are they just playing games to get on our nerves? Is it a desperate attempt to shut their eyes to obvious facts?

"I don't see much fire", they'll say. "I just see smoke".


Is is even possible to be this dumb?

 

[sts60]

Evidently. As a firefighter, I am greatly amused by such claims.

 

[Good Lt]

Is is even possible to be this dumb?

Well, when you've had 7 years to work at it...

Yup - I'd say that they're finally scraping the bottom of the barrel. Their desperate quest for meaning, relevance and da twoof is coming to its predictable end.

One thing to keep in mind, though.

Think of how many times over the past seven years that you've thought, "well, the troofers can't possibly get any stupider than this claim/remark/video/cult leader," only to be surprised at a new low within a short period of time.

It's been a race to the intellectual gutter, and there will probably be a photo finish to see who gets there first.

 

[GlennB]

What they can't accept is that -

1. Some materials will always produce stonkin' great clouds of smoke, no matter how much air is available. Rubber tyres spring to mind.
2. That an efficient, well-oxygenated inferno will create fringe fires that have not yet got up to speed and are producing lots of smoke. You can try this at home with a nice dry bonfire in the back garden. Just toss some damp green stuff on the edge and watch the smoke appear.

Bottom line - they've picked up a few key words from a CT website about "inefficient fires" and that's plenty enough "research" for them.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Can anyone explain to me what the deal is with this new meme among Truthers where they deny the existence of fires in pictures that show a great deal of smoke? Is this some new denial tactic? Some new persuasive techniques? Are they just playing games to get on our nerves? Is it a desperate attempt to shut their eyes to obvious facts?

[qimg]http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i268/representativepress/WTC7Fire.jpg[/qimg]

[qimg]http://uploads.abovetopsecret.com/ats27400_WTC7b03.jpg[/qimg]

[qimg]http://www.oilempire.us/graphics/wtc29.jpg[/qimg]

"I don't see much fire", they'll say. "I just see smoke".


Is is even possible to be this dumb?

Prisonplanet claims that the smoke from WTC 7 isn't smoke from WTC 7 at all, that it's from building 5 & 6:

*Begin massive cherrypicking extravaganza*

Stundie kept telling me 'no smoke=no flames' when I had at it with him too.... funny, I've waited a month now for his reply

And truth videos irrefutably debunk themselves when they show video of the smoke billowing out of the south face...

Then again that is all we can expect from a PP source

 

[Drudgewire]

I haven't seen any bears in this forest, only bear poop.

Clearly that means there are no bears around here.

 

[Slayhamlet]

Prisonplanet claims that the smoke from WTC 7 isn't smoke from WTC 7 at all, that it's from building 5 & 6:

*Begin massive cherrypicking extravaganza*

Stundie kept telling me 'no smoke=no flames' when I had at it with him too.... funny, I've waited a month now for his reply

And truth videos irrefutably debunk themselves when they show video of the smoke billowing out of the south face...

Then again that is all we can expect from a PP source

In other words, they believe smoke travelled upwind on 9/11. Have they added that to their list of "laws of physics" that were supposedly broken that day?

 

[NYCEMT86]

Evidently. As a firefighter, I am greatly amused by such claims.

i forgot how to post YT videos, so here the links for some very good videos


Smoke before a flashover:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15VxYzzjpKM

How to read smoke....the last part is the best

"Turbulent smoke flow is caused by extreme heat and radiant heat feedback, this is the number one warning sign that a flashover is going to occur."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ7B542OSF8

Commercial Building fire w/ flashover:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxEBMZO6kIk

 

[OldTigerCub]

i forgot how to post YT videos, so here the links for some very good videos


Smoke before a flashover:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15VxYzzjpKM

How to read smoke....the last part is the best

"Turbulent smoke flow is caused by extreme heat and radiant heat feedback, this is the number one warning sign that a flashover is going to occur."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ7B542OSF8

Commercial Building fire w/ flashover:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxEBMZO6kIk

1st
2nd
3rd

There ya go!

 

[Furi]

It's been a race to the intellectual gutter, and there will probably be a photo finish to see who gets there first.

Just to keep them guessing take the photo from differing and extreme perspectives, just to keep them arguing over which crossed the line, possibly record it and post it heavily compress on YT at 1 fps so they can work out which artefacted pixel crossed the theoretical limit of teh dumb.

But then again only a close minded sheeple would accept such a claim when the only evidence is provided by NWO PNAC BBC 'anybody-who-doesn't-agree-with-my-viewpoint' and clearly suggests that further dumberisms can be committed

 

[peteweaver]

As soot will accumilate upon windows, that will black out what is going on behind them, (anyone who's had a coal fire with a glass window on the front should know that).