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Shutdown 2025 - The fallout

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The U.S. government shut down Oct 1 2025 and has been closed for about a week.

Some government functions continue (with people getting regular pay), such as the military. In other cases, workers are furloughed with no pay (with the expectation they will get back pay when the shutdown is done). In yet other cases, workers in some essential positions are expected to work but with no pay until the shut down is done.

So, how has this been affecting the US?

Lets see:

Some airports have seen operating hours reduced due to staffing shortages, as air traffic controllers (who are considered 'critical' and are expected to work without pay) are calling in sick.

From: https://abc7.com/post/hollywood-bur...affic-controllers-evening-faa-warns/17952670/
There were frustrating delays and cancellations on Monday evening at Hollywood Burbank Airport and other U.S. airports as the government shutdown triggered a shortage of air traffic controllers... From 4:15 p.m. to 10 p.m. Monday, there were no air traffic controllers in the Burbank tower, and operations were instead run remotely... Air traffic controllers are government employees and are considered essential, so they have to keep working, but are doing so without pay. Because of that, there's a shortage as many of the 11,00 air traffic controllers nationwide are calling in sick.

(Other airports with similar shutdowns include Nashville and Boston.)

And it looks like Trump might be looking at screwing furloughed workers out of their back pay.

From: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/republican-senator-says-back-pay-202411276.html
A draft memo from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) raised the possibility that furloughed federal workers may not be entitled to back pay from their time off during the government shutdown...The draft memo hinges on an aggressive interpretation of the Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019 — which President Trump signed during the last government shutdown — and argues the law does not automatically guarantee back pay to all furloughed employees.

From: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/trump-administration-threatens-buck-law-155408485.html
The White House suggested Tuesday that furloughed federal workers won’t necessarily get paid when the government eventually reopens, contrary to a law signed by President Donald Trump in 2019. The law states that all furloughed workers “shall be paid for the period of the lapse in appropriations,” also known as a government shutdown. But an anonymous White House official claimed to Axios that there is some confusion about the statute: “Does this law cover all these furloughed employees automatically? The conventional wisdom is: Yes, it does. Our view is: No, it doesn’t.”

(Note that many republicans in congress have said that workers will be payed, but given the fact that they tend to give in to Trump on a regular basis, I would not put much faith in them standing up to Trump over this.)
 
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Typical and predictable Trump dick move: He thinks he can screw over federal employees who are legally owed back-pay. That is, he considers that federal government employees are "his business" employees, who he is renowned for screwing over ruthlessly regardless of the law.

They need to sue him personally, in a national class action.
 
ACA premiums may skyrocket on January 1st, if they Congress doesn't extend the Covid-era subsidies.

This could be used to get the House back for the Democrats next year.

Democrats should offer to fund a continued budget PLUS just one extra thing: 5 year extension of the subsidies.

Let's see how the GOP plays with that ball.
 
ACA premiums may skyrocket on January 1st, if they Congress doesn't extend the Covid-era subsidies.

This could be used to get the House back for the Democrats next year.

Democrats should offer to fund a continued budget PLUS just one extra thing: 5 year extension of the subsidies.

Let's see how the GOP plays with that ball.
They certainly well, even MTG is upset about it. I thought it was ACA and not covid. Was it added to ACA in 21 or something?
 
(Other airports with similar shutdowns include Nashville and Boston.)
Quoting today's The Tennessean (Nashville's daily paper):
...263 planes delayed in and out of Nashville International Airport on Oct. 7, impacting 39,450 passengers....

While BNA leadership said there are "no immediate staffing concerns," the latest data from the Federal Aviation Administration shows that the tower is understaffed by 11 certified controllers. At 1:25 p.m. Oct. 7, the FAA informed the Nashville airport that it would be reducing the number of flights in and out of Nashville airport until further notice due to staffing shortages.

BNA is the Nashville International Airport. I was on one of those flights into Nashville. At 1:25pm our pilot told us some other flight had taken our landing slot so we'd have to circle for a bit.

U.S. Transportation Secretary Pete Duffy wrote on social media that air traffic controllers across the country had stopped showing up to work since the federal government shutdown began on Oct. 1, despite the fact that they are among the "essential" group required to continue working without pay.
 
There appears to be some truth in California allowing Medicaid to some residents without a valid visa or residency:
Lawful permanent residents (green card holders) are eligible for full-scope Medi-Cal in California regardless of their date of entry if they meet all other eligibility requirements, even if they have been in the United States for less than 5 years. Beginning in 2024, people without a lawful immigration status who meet the requirements for Medi-Cal are eligible for full-scope Medi-Cal.[13] Previously, meeting eligibility requirements other than immigration status qualified them restricted-scope Medi-Cal limited to emergency and pregnancy-related services only[14] unless they qualified for the Young Adult Expansion (YAE) or Older Adult Expansion (OAE), which allowed individuals ages 19–26 or those over the age of 50 full-scope benefits regardless of immigration status.
Not sure if any of that applies now that most Medicaid funds will be gone.
 
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IMO the Democrats are in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation

If they vote with the GOP this will stop many programs for people with lower income, and lets the GOP blame it on the Democrats, while giving the 'both parties are bad' centrists more ammunition.
If they take a stand it will cause a lot of hardship to people with lower income and lets the GOP blame it on the Democrats, while giving the 'both parties are bad' centrists more ammunition.

And the media will keep running with that, as the people owning the media are funding the GOP.
 
There appears to be some truth in California allowing Medicaid to some residents without a valid visa or residency:

Not sure if any of that applies now that most Medicaid funds will be gone.
Well, the law seems to lean towards empathy and compassion...so I guess, by "American" standards it isn't a good law.
 

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