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Score one for Obama.

leftysergeant

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Good news. BP is not going to pay dividends this year. (Or ever, if justice prevails.) That leaves more for the government to sieze when justice is done to the oil toads.

Obama seems to have twisted the right arms. More than his predecessor would have done.

He has the escrow fund he wanted.

Stop whining about his not doing anything.
 
"Our new Louisiana poll has a lot of data points to show how unhappy voters in the state are with Barack Obama's handling of the oil spill but one perhaps sums it up better than anything else- a majority of voters there think George W. Bush did a better job with Katrina than Obama's done dealing with the spill.50% of voters in the state, even including 31% of Democrats, give Bush higher marks on that question compared to 35% who pick Obama.

Overall only 32% of Louisianans approve of how Obama has handled the spill to 62% who disapprove. 34% of those polled say they approved of how Bush dealt with Katrina to 58% who disapproved."


http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/fallout-from-spill.html
 
That was before Obama announced the escrow fund had been set up and that BP was not going to pay dividends. Give it some time.
 
Cicero's post just illustrates the point that many Americans have very short term memory, and can't actually apply critical thinking skills.
 
"Our new Louisiana poll has a lot of data points to show how unhappy voters in the state are with Barack Obama's handling of the oil spill but one perhaps sums it up better than anything else- a majority of voters there think George W. Bush did a better job with Katrina than Obama's done dealing with the spill.50% of voters in the state, even including 31% of Democrats, give Bush higher marks on that question compared to 35% who pick Obama.

Overall only 32% of Louisianans approve of how Obama has handled the spill to 62% who disapprove. 34% of those polled say they approved of how Bush dealt with Katrina to 58% who disapproved."


http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/fallout-from-spill.html

Time heals all wounds. Be nice to see the support numbers for him at day X, compared to those for Obama at the same day X out from each event.

TAM:)
 
Cicero's post just illustrates the point that many Americans have very short term memory, and can't actually apply critical thinking skills.

What it illustrates is that Louisianans didn't have a high regard for a former POTUS who was incompetent, and have less regard for a current POTUS who is impotent.
 
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Soo, all those retirees that may have invested in BP and may depend on them are gonna have to pay huh?

Way to sock it to em big O.
Let them eat dog food and see how they like it...booyah.
 
I think the conservatives are upset because Obama didn't make regulations on the oil industry tougher. Strange, considering they've been calling for less regulation.
 
is $20 billion enough?

i hope we will set up a similar account with the other two shareholders of the platform.
 
Good news. BP is not going to pay dividends this year. (Or ever, if justice prevails.) That leaves more for the government to sieze when justice is done to the oil toads.

If I were the CEO of BP and I thought that the Obama administration was thinking this, I would have told them to go jump off a cliff. What motivation would a company have to be nice and play ball if the end result, seizure and corporate oblivion, would still be the same?

Hopefully, Obama and his people are something more than mindlessly inflexible Marxist ideologues and they won't give future companies an excuse to refuse to cooperate with authorities when they screw up.
 
- a majority of voters there think George W. Bush did a better job with Katrina than Obama's done dealing with the spill.

Because trucking relief supplies into a city is exactly the same as trying to stop an oil leak at the bottom of the ocean.

Steve S
 
Because trucking relief supplies into a city is exactly the same as trying to stop an oil leak at the bottom of the ocean.

How about keeping the oil from reaching the shore?That too much to ask of the Jug-Eared Incompetant?
 
If I were the CEO of BP and I thought that the Obama administration was thinking this, I would have told them to go jump off a cliff. What motivation would a company have to be nice and play ball if the end result, seizure and corporate oblivion, would still be the same?

BP is not being nice. They're reluctantly taking responsibility for the disaster that is their fault.

No one's talking about some government seizure of their assets. We're talking about people who were damaged by the disaster BP caused getting compensated.
 
"Our new Louisiana poll has a lot of data points to show how unhappy voters in the state are with Barack Obama's handling of the oil spill but one perhaps sums it up better than anything else- a majority of voters there think George W. Bush did a better job with Katrina than Obama's done dealing with the spill.50% of voters in the state, even including 31% of Democrats, give Bush higher marks on that question compared to 35% who pick Obama.

Overall only 32% of Louisianans approve of how Obama has handled the spill to 62% who disapprove. 34% of those polled say they approved of how Bush dealt with Katrina to 58% who disapproved."


http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/fallout-from-spill.html

You're back! Just when I had gone looking for new toys to play with.
 
BP is not being nice. They're reluctantly taking responsibility for the disaster that is their fault.

And they wouldn't play nice, even reluctantly, if they believed that a corporate death penalty was waiting for them either way.

No one's talking about some government seizure of their assets.

No one in authority is. I was commenting on Lefty's hysterical ranting. Were someone with his narrow minded and childish worldview in charge, BP would simply head to the courthouse and tie up whatever money was there for decades.

They would have nothing to lose and perhaps their survival to retain.

We're talking about people who were damaged by the disaster BP caused getting compensated.

As well they should be compensated. Lashing out and destroying BP out of spite won't get anyone anything.
 
Because trucking relief supplies into a city is exactly the same as trying to stop an oil leak at the bottom of the ocean.

Steve S

Too bad Louisianans consider Bush's efforts superior to PPTUS Obama's. Of course during Katrina, Governor Kathleen Blanco and Mayor Ray Nagin were also culpable in the poor handling of Katrina. Had Obama been in office during Katrina, he wouldn't have to wonder "whose ass to kick."
 
Anyone see this yet?

With Criminal Charges for Oil Spill, Costs to BP Could Soar

As BP watches its bill rise quickly for the oil spill, including $20 billion it is setting aside for claims, it could find the tally growing much faster in coming months if the United States Department of Justice files criminal charges against the company.

Based on the latest estimates, for example, the daily civil fine for the escaping oil alone could be $280 million. But criminal penalties, if imposed, could cause the costs to balloon still further, said David M. Uhlmann, a law professor at the University of Michigan, who headed the environmental crimes section of the Justice Department from 2000 to 2007.

Others note that such penalties could lead to loss of government contracts.

Even misdemeanor convictions under environmental laws could produce stunningly large fines under general federal criminal statutes, Mr. Uhlmann added. That is because the Alternative Fines Act allows the federal government to request twice the gain or loss associated with an offense if the Justice Department shows that a crime was committed.

Predictions by analysts of the overall cost of the spill to BP, when criminal penalties are included, have been rising. On Wednesday, Pavel Molchanov, an analyst at Raymond James, estimated the total legal cost, including criminal fines, at $62.9 billion, which would dwarf the $20 billion escrow account to be used to pay claims of economic loss.

The agreement to create the fund would not pre-empt people from using the courts to resolve disputes with BP over the spill.
 

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