David Henson
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I have been debating with science minded atheists for a number of years now and I think I have a pretty good grasp on their methodology. It is more often than not assumed that the Bible can't possibly be anything other than a collection of primitive mythology, legend and superstition because it disagrees with science. Science to the science minded atheist is considered to be infallible in much the same way that religious people think the Bible is infallible when in fact neither of them claim to be and both of them set forth in theory protection against this sort of thinking.
Before you as a science minded atheist or skeptic of the Bible begin to foam at the mouth in denial of this, pointing out its obvious contradiction please note that I agree both of these schools of thought express an abhorrent disgust at such a notion it is nevertheless obvious that that is exactly how each of them are presented. An example from this forum.
It is pointed out to me that the deluge probably couldn't have happened due to the assumption that photographic art couldn't have survived a global deluge because radiocarbon-14 dating had determined that the art was 10 to 40,000 years old. The obvious question is how reliable is radiocarbon-14 dating so I provide a list of assumptions, all of which must be met in order for it to be accurate. That list of assumptions is never questioned. Keep in mind that if only 1 of the 4 fail it makes the test completely inaccurate.
The problem with this is that in 1971 a group of scientists, including Nobel Prize winner W. F. Libby, of the University of California at Los Angeles, who pioneered carbon-14 dating in 1949, assembled in Uppsala, Sweden, concluded that this list of assumptions which was 20 years old, failed in all 4 of the assumptions necessary to be accurate, every single time. That was in 1971!
Yesterday when presented with these assumptions the science minded atheists and Bible skeptics seemed to have no idea that each of these assumption had been determined almost 40 years ago, after 20 years of use, completely useless. These science minded atheists who hinge their ideas of "reality" upon these tests and cry for "evidence" and "proof" simply trust . . . indeed have such blind faith in everything that science says as dogma, fact . . . that there is nothing in heaven or earth, except for maybe alien life forms because they are cool and we want them to exist, will change their beliefs or even make them reevaluate them.
Its a joke! Its a scam! Its a shame! It is, in my opinion, an affront to true science and truth.
The Bible says: "Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world." 1 John 4:1
Acts 17:11 says that the people who didn't believe what Paul said about the scriptures but investigated for themselves what the scriptures said were "noble minded." This doesn't apply exclusively to believers but unbelievers alike.
Before you as a science minded atheist or skeptic of the Bible begin to foam at the mouth in denial of this, pointing out its obvious contradiction please note that I agree both of these schools of thought express an abhorrent disgust at such a notion it is nevertheless obvious that that is exactly how each of them are presented. An example from this forum.
It is pointed out to me that the deluge probably couldn't have happened due to the assumption that photographic art couldn't have survived a global deluge because radiocarbon-14 dating had determined that the art was 10 to 40,000 years old. The obvious question is how reliable is radiocarbon-14 dating so I provide a list of assumptions, all of which must be met in order for it to be accurate. That list of assumptions is never questioned. Keep in mind that if only 1 of the 4 fail it makes the test completely inaccurate.
The problem with this is that in 1971 a group of scientists, including Nobel Prize winner W. F. Libby, of the University of California at Los Angeles, who pioneered carbon-14 dating in 1949, assembled in Uppsala, Sweden, concluded that this list of assumptions which was 20 years old, failed in all 4 of the assumptions necessary to be accurate, every single time. That was in 1971!
Yesterday when presented with these assumptions the science minded atheists and Bible skeptics seemed to have no idea that each of these assumption had been determined almost 40 years ago, after 20 years of use, completely useless. These science minded atheists who hinge their ideas of "reality" upon these tests and cry for "evidence" and "proof" simply trust . . . indeed have such blind faith in everything that science says as dogma, fact . . . that there is nothing in heaven or earth, except for maybe alien life forms because they are cool and we want them to exist, will change their beliefs or even make them reevaluate them.
Its a joke! Its a scam! Its a shame! It is, in my opinion, an affront to true science and truth.
The Bible says: "Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world." 1 John 4:1
Acts 17:11 says that the people who didn't believe what Paul said about the scriptures but investigated for themselves what the scriptures said were "noble minded." This doesn't apply exclusively to believers but unbelievers alike.
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