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"Science is bad and must be destroyed"

Hercules56 said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9SiRNibD14&feature=youtu.be

Truly fascinating discussion.

Turns out science is all just colonialism, and is fake.

We should listen to the witchdoctors instead.

They know how the world works, not scientists.
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Cool scrap all science and start again from an african witch doctor perspective ! Could all people with a western colonalist science education please report to the firepit for purging. Make sure to bring as many books and internets with you as you can carry.
 
Hercules56 said:
Turns out science is all just colonialism, and is fake.
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... except for AK47, handheld missile launchers, Toyota Pickups, amphetamins, cellphones and assorted electronic devices, explosives, the internet, international currencies transfers, ... ;)
 
Flo said:
... except for AK47, handheld missile launchers, Toyota Pickups, amphetamins, cellphones and assorted electronic devices, explosives, the internet, international currencies transfers, ... ;)
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But other than that, what has science ever done for us?
 
I don't think she's quite making the argument she's being charged with. Perhaps it's just because she isn't expressing herself very well.

It sounds like she's railing against reality (as discovered by "science") but I think she's making a case for cultural values instead. Or maybe I'm being too kind.
 
The discussion about that video here, in SA, has ranged over all the usual talking points we know from this forum.

Some say the real point, that she so mangled, was about the sociology of science: removing the top-down domination of colonialism to find some African pride and an African place in the story of science. To have new heroes, to discover and celebrate old ones. To reinvent how science is done on the ground: who pays and how, who is a peer and why, who gets the jobs, who leads, who writes the books, and so on?

Sadly the people in that video seem ill prepared for that task. This is a bitter irony-pill because we have failed to educate these children in the last twenty years.

Ours is a broken society. A mirror punched. I only hope it doesn't go down the road of the Chinese Cultural Revolution and the Red Guards.
 
Argumemnon said:
I love the fact that she just uses all the evil white man's tools, going to her tablet right after she's done. Seems science is bad only when it suits her.
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That tablet isn't white man's tool. It was likely manufactured in an factory bordering on the South China Sea, the Indian Ocean, or the western Pacific Ocean.
;)
 
I think the video might need context. The young lady seems very passionate about something, but isn't articulating it well. As undergraduates, many of us were ready and willing to voice our passions; we just weren't very able.
 
Yeah what Resume said. I'm definitely getting the vibe of someone with about a 99:1 "Passion" to "Actually put any thought into this" ratio.
 
And I guess the colonials tore down all that beautiful sub-saharan architecture too.
 
casebro said:
And I guess the colonials tore down all that beautiful sub-saharan architecture too.
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They reattributed it.
Cecil John Rhodes and other white settlers refused to believe that Great Zimbabwe was built by Africans. Rhodes employed a miner called Theodore Bent to dig up bits of Great Zimbabwe in order to prove that it had been built by either Arabs or Phoenicians.​
 
"If every trace of any single religion were wiped out and nothing were passed on, it would never be created exactly that way again. There might be some other nonsense in its place, but not that exact nonsense. If all of science were wiped out, it would still be true, and someone would find a way to figure it all out again." -- Penn Jillette
 
I'm having some trouble understanding the accent. The young lady on the right asks for a scientific explanation of how tribals can call down lightning to smite their foes. A male voice off camera says that it simply isn't true. Then the young lady on the left admonishes the male voice about following the rules of the discussion, which aren't clear to me at all. Then the first young lady launches into a tirade that I can make little out of because of the unfamiliar accent.

Would someone have time to parse the important points, please?
 
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