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Saudi Arabia May Be Tied to 9/11, 2 Ex-Senators Say

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Saudi Arabia May Be Tied to 9/11, 2 Ex-Senators Say
By ERIC LICHTBLAU, February 29, 2012

WASHINGTON — For more than a decade, questions have lingered about the possible role of the Saudi government in the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, even as the royal kingdom has made itself a crucial counterterrorism partner in the eyes of American diplomats.

Now, in sworn statements that seem likely to reignite the debate, two former senators who were privy to top secret information on the Saudis’ activities say they believe that the Saudi government might have played a direct role in the terrorist attacks.

“I am convinced that there was a direct line between at least some of the terrorists who carried out the September 11th attacks and the government of Saudi Arabia,” former Senator Bob Graham, Democrat of Florida, said in an affidavit filed as part of a lawsuit brought against the Saudi government and dozens of institutions in the country by families of Sept. 11 victims and others. Mr. Graham led a joint 2002 Congressional inquiry into the attacks.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/01/us/graham-and-kerrey-see-possible-saudi-9-11-link.html?_r=1



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shure said:
Now, in sworn statements that seem likely to reignite the debate, two former senators who were privy to top secret information on the Saudis’ activities say they believe that the Saudi government might have played a direct role in the terrorist attacks.
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So what is this evidence?


But Mr. Kerrey and Mr. Graham said that the findings should not be seen as an exoneration and that many important questions about the Saudis’ role had never been fully examined, partly because their panels simply did not have the time or resources given their wider scope.
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Wait, Now they have "questions". What about the "top secret information" they were privy to? Strange they didn't see it as important enough at the time to follow through on.
 
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1. It is at least interesting that the court case made it this far, and the current status seems to be that the court most recently active on it decided it has enough merit to be reconsidered.

2. Senators Graham and Kerrey did in fact have access to relevant information (this in contrast to other, often former, politicians that truthers like to quote). Can anybody say they traditionally belong to the whacko side? Not that I have heard of.

3. With 15 of the 19 hijackers being Saudis, it seems almost unthinkable that they should have had no support from anybody in Saudi Arabia. The Bin Laden family is pretty prominent and well-established among the Saudi elite, so why shouldn't there be more rich and powerful fans of jihad?


So, no serious reason not to take this serious.

Problem for us here is: It's difficult to obtain and assess evidence.
 
Oystein said:
1. It is at least interesting that the court case made it this far, and the current status seems to be that the court most recently active on it decided it has enough merit to be reconsidered.

2. Senators Graham and Kerrey did in fact have access to relevant information (this in contrast to other, often former, politicians that truthers like to quote). Can anybody say they traditionally belong to the whacko side? Not that I have heard of.

3. With 15 of the 19 hijackers being Saudis, it seems almost unthinkable that they should have had no support from anybody in Saudi Arabia. The Bin Laden family is pretty prominent and well-established among the Saudi elite, so why shouldn't there be more rich and powerful fans of jihad?


So, no serious reason not to take this serious.

Problem for us here is: It's difficult to obtain and assess evidence.
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With all that being said, wouldn't it be a negative for any truther argument? If they find out that the hijackers were tied to the government or whatever, that means that there WERE hijackers. Meaning there was no conspiracy, meaning there is no "twoof." Hence why I said, I'll be holding my breath. If they've had this privy information and are gone from the government, why didn't they bring it up sooner?
 
Now, in sworn statements that seem likely to reignite the debate, two former senators who were privy to top secret information on the Saudis’ activities say they believe that the Saudi government might have played a direct role in the terrorist attacks.
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Also, it really doesn't say anything definite. They believe, might have, etc. It sounds pretty vague to me.

Truthers believe that the government might have blown up the towers. We've seen how that goes.
 
I'm kind of curious how two ex-Senators can file affidavits regarding intelligence information that they were privy to years ago.
 
plague311 said:
With all that being said, wouldn't it be a negative for any truther argument? If they find out that the hijackers were tied to the government or whatever, that means that there WERE hijackers. Meaning there was no conspiracy, meaning there is no "twoof." Hence why I said, I'll be holding my breath. If they've had this privy information and are gone from the government, why didn't they bring it up sooner?
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Well, it means there was a conspiracy, just not one insider the US government and none involving Mossad, or some such nonsense.

But it has always been a conspiracy

And yes, it doesn't change the "official story" one bit just yet, only adds a layer to it somewhere in the background.
 
16.5 said:
I'm kind of curious how two ex-Senators can file affidavits regarding intelligence information that they were privy to years ago.
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My speculation: All panelists know the top secret information that Graham and Kerrey know, disagree on what it means, or how it should be handled. Perhaps these two, being in the minority, want to create a lever on which the focus and decision can be moved.

They cannot say publicly what they know, and perhaps they don't really know enough and only suspect there is something bigger. Perhaps they use the court case as a vehicle to get the secret stuff out without them telling state secrets.

Perhaps there is some less-than wholesome involvment of some top US officials, whether for personal or political gain or for state raison I dare not say. I'd doubt very much at this time that any top officials are fully fledged involved as perpetrators or those shielding them, and perhaps behind the scenes, they have worked to make the Saudi government (King) hedge in the Saudi connection to AQ.

Perhaps perhaps perhaps ...
 
The book "THE ELEVENTH DAY" by Anthony Summers/Robbyn Swan goes into detail concerning links by Saudi officials and the hijackers.
 
I started a similar thread about this Saudi family's link to 9/11 hijackers wasn't reported to Congress, Commission.

Graham was very vocal in that the FBI failed to communicate the information they had regarding another Saudi family that abruptly left days prior to 9/11. This family had direct contact with several of the hijackers. "Sources of foreign support for some of the September 11 hijackers," a 28 page section of the 9/11 Report was blacked out- per George Bush. (and still is to this day)
 
Old Bob is selling books. Or is he cashing in on the lawsuit? Follow the money.

Saudi Arabia might be tied to 911? 15 Saudis did 911. 10 years too late, we figured this out on 911. Old Bob is slow. Is this an election year?

How does this rehash of Bob's old claims fit with 911 truth nut case claims of thermite, and CD, the big inside job? This means 911 was an outside job, already known. Did we arrest McVeigh and Nichol's families for supporting them? Lawsuits?


And? Prove it. Is there a Pulitzer? Who was the family who left suddenly? Public record, rent, etc.

Saudi government might have played a direct role in the terrorist attacks
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So they did it? Or what? Details? Did the Saudi officials buy the expensive small knives? What did they directly do?

Bob Graham has a book. ... are sales slow?
Bob Kerrey is running for office. Books and politics.
 
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Wasn't there a report a month or two ago that blame the Iranian government??
 
So, because two Senators have an opinion (since, according the article "Saudis’ role had never been fully examined, partly because their panels simply did not have the time or resources given their wider scope") that means that this is definitive evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.
 
plague311 said:
With all that being said, wouldn't it be a negative for any truther argument? If they find out that the hijackers were tied to the government or whatever, that means that there WERE hijackers. Meaning there was no conspiracy, meaning there is no "twoof." Hence why I said, I'll be holding my breath. If they've had this privy information and are gone from the government, why didn't they bring it up sooner?
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Yah, it could simply point to another kind of conspiracy. That is fine IMO if it points toward Saudis, hijackers and planes,and away from phantom controlled demolition and Larry Silverstein etc...

I suppose almost anything would be an improvement on current 9/11 Truth claims...:cool:
 
alienentity said:
Yah, it could simply point to another kind of conspiracy. That is fine IMO if it points toward Saudis, hijackers and planes,and away from phantom controlled demolition and Larry Silverstein etc...

I suppose almost anything would be an improvement on current 9/11 Truth claims...:cool:
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True enough, at least it would be something new brought to the table. Well, not new...like used car new.
 
Bob Kerrey replaced Max Cleland as the Democratic Commissioner on the 9/11 Commission. Graham was on the Senate Intelligence committee prior to post 9/11.

"He served for 10 years on the Senate Intelligence Committee, which he chaired during and after 9/11 and the run up the Iraq war. As Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Senator Graham opposed the War in Iraq for fear it would divert U.S. attention from the fight in Afghanistan. After reviewing information and meeting with military leaders in February 2002, he decided the war would be a "distraction" that would end poorly. He continues to oppose the Iraq War today.[2] As a result of his service as the Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, in 2004 Bob Graham authored the book Intelligence Matters: The CIA, the FBI, Saudi Arabia and the Failure of America's War on Terror. In September 2008 the book was released as a Paperback with a new preface and postscript."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Graham

He was clearly interrested in Saudi Arabia's involvement as early as 2004.

What does this have to do with 9/11 Truth? It doesn't support thier idiocy one bit and niether Senator is a twoofer.

I'm kind of dismayed at some of the knee jerk responses in this thread though, towards these two individuals who clearly do not share the ideas of the loons in the TM.
 
From the article:

"Unanswered questions include the work of a number of Saudi-sponsored charities with financial links to Al Qaeda, as well as the role of a Saudi citizen living in San Diego at the time of the attacks, Omar al-Bayoumi, who had ties to two of the hijackers and to Saudi officials, Mr. Graham said in his affidavit."

These are not direct links between the hijackers and the Saudi Government. This is a link to a link to a link to a link. Kevin Bacon did 9/11!
 
Oz1976 said:
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I'm kind of dismayed at some of the knee jerk responses in this thread though, towards these two individuals who clearly do not share the ideas of the loons in the TM.
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I agree, give the Senators a break, one is selling a book, one is running for office. You can't buy this kind of publicity.

This junk would be better in politics, zero 911 truth crazy claims.
 
Now , not to sound like a CT wingnut, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Saudi Arabian money (from private donors) wasn't involved in 75% of all middle east terror attacks of the last 50 years... Of course there are wealthy Oil Shieks giving money to terror causes.

None of these statements mean 9/11 was an inside job, in fact, if true, it would be a coffin nail for the Truthers.
 
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