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Santorum talks about Satan destroying America

Kestrel

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Back in 2008, Santorum gave a speech at Ave Maria UniversityWP where he talked about Satan attacking and corrupting American institutions. An audio recording of his speech can be found here:



As a skeptic, I find what he said about academia rather troubling.

... Satan has done so by attacking the great institutions of America, using those great vices of pride, vanity, and sensuality as the root to attack all of the strong plants that have so deeply rooted in the American tradition.

He was successful. He attacks all of us and he attacks all of our institutions. The place where he was, in my mind, the most successful and first successful was in academia. He understood pride of smart people. He attacked them at their weakest, that they were, in fact, smarter than everybody else and could come up with something new and different. Pursue new truths, deny the existence of truth, play with it because they’re smart. And so academia, a long time ago, fell.
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Was Santorum just pandering to his audience, or does he really believe that Satan walks the Earth and has totally corrupted our Academic institutions?
 
Kestrel said:
As a skeptic, I find what he said about academia rather troubling.
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You're just saying that because you're a Demon-crat.

Was Santorum just pandering to his audience, or does he really believe that Satan walks the Earth and has totally corrupted our Academic institutions?
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Santorum's always been a religious nut. He hasn't said so publicly, but I would not be surprised if he turned out to be a Traditionalist.
 
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did someone say Satan?
 
This kind of thing is probably the main reason I want Romney to win the nomination.

Having any kind of conversation with someone like Santorum just makes all of us more stupid.
 
I understand he does attend a traditional Latin-mass church...

Are we quite sure he's not aligned with the Dominionists/New Apostolic loons?

Sounds like the sort of silliness they go on about.
 
Bikewer said:
I understand he does attend a traditional Latin-mass church...

Are we quite sure he's not aligned with the Dominionists/New Apostolic loons?

Sounds like the sort of silliness they go on about.
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Santorum normally attends the latin mass at Saint Catherine of Siena. That doesn't put him in the same boat as the Dominionists, but it does make it clear that he is either a Traditionalist or a latin language geek.

His speech at Ave Maria University made it clear that Santorum sees the past as the source of all wisdom and answers. He seems to forget that when our country was founded, half the states allowed slavery and in most cases only while male property owners were allowed to vote. Vicious bigotry was accepted and required in polite society. Interpersonal violence was far more common than it is today. The modern world that Santorum views as under the grip of Satan has gotten better at practicing the kind of tolerance and forgiveness that Jesus advocated.
 
Bikewer said:
I understand he does attend a traditional Latin-mass church...

Are we quite sure he's not aligned with the Dominionists/New Apostolic loons?
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I doubt it very much.

Being a conservative Catholic is a very different thing than being a radical Calvinist or whatever.
 
One of the earliest expressions of spiritual warfare is to be found in Ephesians 6:10 - 12 (emphasis added):

Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we are not contending against flesh and blood but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Ephesians 6:13 - 17 then go on to describe each detail of the believer's spiritual armor, each piece of which is good for a sermon.

Adherence to this belief that we are under Satanic attack leads, of course, to a siege mentality, where every person who disagrees with the believer can be cast in the role of a satanically inspired assailant. Of course, once someone with this belief system takes power, he looks upon all opposition as satanic and is likely to persecute such people to the limits of his abilities to do so. One example of this is Oliver Cromwell's genocidal campaign against the Irish for being papists.

Another point to note is what Santorum did not list as satanic. These include, specifically, the genocidal destruction of the native Americans, the Mexican War - a blatant land grab against a lesser power, the institution of slavery - the existence of which directly contradicted the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights, the depredations of robber barons, the widespread institution of child labor in the textile industry (among others) and the reduction of the American work force to grinding poverty and exploitation. The last two of these were not dealt with until the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt in the 1930s.
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
Actually I think his Catholicism makes him at least a little atypical. Most Christian right Republicans are some flavor or another of Protestant.
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Republican supporters on this forum are atypical. The Religious Right are in line with him. The Religious Right doesn't include Catholicism
 
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Kestrel said:
Santorum normally attends the latin mass at Saint Catherine of Siena. That doesn't put him in the same boat as the Dominionists, but it does make it clear that he is either a Traditionalist or a latin language geek.
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There are Catholics who believe a traditional Latin Mass has more virtue than modern native language versions of the same rite.

It troubles me deeply he to see him identify with that camp
 
It troubles me to hear his views on sexual intimacy. How can anyone subject a woman to such lunacy as convincing her that she will forgo her sexuality with her husband except for the purpose of bearing another child, in the name of his mistaken idea of religious piety. What a fool. He should be on a street corner with a sandwich board announcing "the end is nigh". It is beyond cruel.

We don't need politicians with such intense and crippling hangups.
 
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