RMackey Declines Debate. Anyone Else?

[TruthSeeker1234]

Anybody here have the courage to debate me on live television? Stick your name in place of Mackey's.

Draft 1.0

Debate will take place for one hour taped at a public access t.v. studio in the Los Angeles area. Set will be a desk seating 3 (RMackey, Moderator, TruthSeeker1234), with television monitor behind it facing the cameras. An additional monitor will be present off camera presenting the participants the live feed.

RMackey and TruthSeeker1234 will each bring laptop computers, both of which will be hooked up to an input switcher under the control of the moderator. The output of the input switcher is routed to the on-camera monitor.

RMackey and TruthSeeker1234 each write 5 questions for the other. These are submitted to the moderator at the beginning of the show, and are kept secret until being read during the Q & A section later.

RMackey will begin by stating "The 3 buildings at the World Trade center were brought down by a combination of impact damage and fires" (or words to that effect). RMackey will then proceed to present his case for 10 minutes, utilizing his laptop and the monitor as desired, interacting (or not) with the moderator, as desired. TruthSeeker1234 will remain quiet during this time.

TruthSeeker1234 will begin by stating "The 3 buildings at the World Trade Center were brought down by pre-planted incindiaries and explosives" (or words to that effect). TruthSeeker1234 will then proceed to present his case for 10 minutes, utilizing his laptop and the monitor as desired, interacting (or not) with the moderator, as desired. RMackie will remain quiet during this time.

RMackey rebuttal for 5 minutes.
TruthSeeker1234 rebuttal for 5 minutes.

The Moderator begins reading the pre-submitted questions. First asks TruthSeeker a question written by Mackie, then the reverse.

Continue alternating Q & A until all 10 questions are done. Should take about 12 minutes.

Live call in question. Both participants comment.

Final clock is checked, remaining air time (about 6 minutes), is divied up equally for RMackey closing statement, then TruthSeeker1234 closing statement.

 

[Abbyas]

who's sponsoring this by the way? You?

If not, it seems very cowardly to challenge a live debate to individuals who will not be in the area.

Edited to Add my own debate challenge:

TS1234, I challenge you to a debate in front of my house in five minutes. Or are you too chicken?

 

[Gravy]

Yeah, what's the show? Do you have your own show? What's it called?

And you didn't answer my question: why TV and not here? How is TV a better format for the presentation of your claims than any written format?

Edited to add: I challenge you to debate Abby's mom next Thursday. Think you're man enough?

 

[Ducky]

Why did you back down from a debate in a moderated thread here? Why are you insistant on a live televised debate?

 

[Axiom_Blade]

RMackey and TruthSeeker1234 will each bring laptop computers, both of which will be hooked up to an input switcher under the control of the moderator. The output of the input switcher is routed to the on-camera monitor.

Pffft!
How about NO laptops, for either of you.

Back in Ye Olden Dayes, people debated without the benefits of Google or Powerpoint. They were expected to come armed with only their wits and knowledge.

If you have to prepare your rebuttal by furiously sifting through links, you're just a horrible debater, period.

 

[The_Fire]

That's funny: I don't see R.Mackey backing down from anything. I do, however, see a certain Troothobfuscater making yet another false claim.

 

[OMGturt1es]

Why did you back down from a debate in a moderated thread here? Why are you insistant on a live televised debate?

moderated, written debate allows for fact checking.

anyways, i'd be willing to debate, but only if the debate is held at the bottom of the ocean. i don't have a laptop that i can bring, but that's fine. you can use yours. please.

 

[Z]

There is no honor in battling with an unarmed foe.

 

[SwissSkeptic]

I think my irony meter just broke. Thanks a lot TS, now I have to get a new one.

 

[apathoid]

Anybody here have the courage to debate me on live television? Stick your name in place of Mackey's.

I have an idea. How about you not run away from the threads you started, and start addressing the multitude of arguments that have been brought up in rebuttal to your claims. Simply starting off a post with "Guys..." and then repeating what you said 5 pages earlirer is not debating. Its cowardice and intellectual dishonesty(I'm using the term loosely ...).

In case you are too dumb to notice, several of the people who have responded to you in your threads are engineers. People who dont get their knowledge from infowars or Google. They have shown you where you are wrong, why you are wrong, and yet you press on....making a fool of yourself and wearing your ignorance on your sleeve as if it were a medal. I for one, will follows Mackeys lead and not reply to you until you start showing us that you have the training in relevant fields, start showing your work when asked, or that you are capable of learning.

 

[Bell]

 

[stateofgrace]

You're having another laugh right toother?

You have been smacked down in every single post you make, your entire theories, every single one of them lay in ruins yet you come back with some preposterous challenge and declare yourself a winner because people laugh at you.

Listen TS, this may have escaped your attention but this is a debating forum. People debate here, they put forward their ideas, opinions and views. If somebody disagrees it is debated unlit a resolution or compromise is reached.

Now if you have an issue with a member, which you clearly have simply start a thread, state your case and debate away.

Oh wait you did that already and ended up looking like a loony.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Anybody here have the courage to debate me on live television? Stick your name in place of Mackey's...

Just like Kennedy conspiracy loons, you're going to be going on and on about this for decades, aren't you? Frittering away whatever little life you have. Good.

 

[fuelair]

You're having another laugh right toother?

You have been smacked down in every single post you make, your entire theories, every single one of them lay in ruins yet you come back with some preposterous challenge and declare yourself a winner because people laugh at you.

Listen TS, this may have escaped your attention but this is a debating forum. People debate here, they put forward their ideas, opinions and views. If somebody disagrees it is debated unlit a resolution or compromise is reached.

Now if you have an issue with a member, which you clearly have simply start a thread, state your case and debate away.

Oh wait you did that already and ended up looking like a loony.

Just looking like a loony? I thought............

 

[Sir Arthur Mortal Coyle]

I haven't been on the forum much lately.

Who's this "Truthseeker1234", is he a troll?.

He believes what!!! WTC, Bombs, conspiracy, Govmint inside job.

Has RonL Hubbard been resurrected?

Bring back "1inchrist", a superior calibre of delusional Troll.

 

[Foolmewunz]

I haven't been on the forum much lately.

Who's this "Truthseeker1234", is he a troll?.

He believes what!!! WTC, Bombs, conspiracy, Govmint inside job.

Has RonL Hubbard been resurrected?

Bring back "1inchrist", a superior calibre of delusional Troll.

He's a busy little beaver. Basically he's got:
Controlled Demolition
Buildings "powderized" so that no debris of even a "macroscopic" size (his word, macroscopic)
The timing of the seismic records PROVES there were explosions prior to the planes hitting.

All have been trashed and thrashed but he won't be a good little beaver troll and go home. He has refused a closed thread debate and now wants a televised (read: Hey I'm going to cut it up and put it on YouTube with some eerie music and claim I won) debate instead.

Oh, and he's an admitted liar and forger. See the thread on Wikipedia he started! He's more than a troll, he's a gen-u-ine surprise-a-minute laugh riot.

 

[realitybites]

How 'bout instead of a debate, we meet outside the school at 4pm.

By the flagpole.

Tell your buddies to bring their camcorders since you're so high on getting this on tape.

 

[NobbyNobbs]

Since you have graciously allowed your opponent to go first, perhaps you could do this at a place of your opponent's choosing instead of your own?

Say, perhaps, over a beer at a local bar in Gravy's home town, wherever that may be?

 

[CurtC]

Who's this "Truthseeker1234", is he a troll?

To add to what's already been said, he starts a thread making a conspiracy claim. When his *** gets handed to him in that thread, he either states his same original point again, without further evidence than what's already been refuted, or starts a new thread about a different subject. All without ever acknowledging that his original point had been refuted. That's why we have so many threads started by him right now.

A point in his favor is that he's mostly kept his points separated to discuss individually, instead of what most CTs do when they get backed into a corner: make a hundred different claims all together so that the ensuing discussion can go nowhere.

 

[Lothian]

Anybody here have the courage to debate me on live television? Stick your name in place of Mackey's.

Ok I will put my name in.

Draft 1.1

Debate will take place for one hour taped at a public access t.v. studio in the Los Angeles area. Set will be a desk seating 3 (Lothian, Moderator, TruthSeeker1234), with television monitor behind it facing the cameras. An additional monitor will be present off camera presenting the participants the live feed.

TruthSeeker1234 will bring a laptop. Lothian will bring a water pistol and some bags of flour. TruthSeeker 1234 will be hooked up to an electrical shock switcher under the control of Lothian. Lothian will only use the switch when necessary or he feels like it.

Lothian and TruthSeeker1234 each write 5 questions for the other. These are submitted to the moderator at the beginning of the show, and are kept secret until being read during the Q & A section later.

Lothian will begin by stating "The 3 buildings at the World Trade center were brought down by a combination of impact damage and fires" (or words to that effect). Lothian will then rest his case, as only imbeciles think otherwise and it is for them to prove their case not the other way round

TruthSeeker1234 will begin by stating "The 3 buildings at the World Trade Center were brought down by pre-planted incindiaries and explosives" (or words to that effect). TruthSeeker1234 will then proceed to present a load of crap for 10 minutes while, utilizing his laptop and the monitor as desired he will try to avoid getting too wet from Lothian’s water pistol. Lothian will try not to laugh, mock and ridicule too much during this time.

Lothian will throw the flour bags at (the now wet) Truthseeker for 5 mins.
TruthSeeker1234 will go away for 5 mins to clean himself up.

The Moderator begins reading the pre-submitted questions. First asks TruthSeeker a question written by Lothain, then the reverse. A public vote is taken after each question and the loser removes an item of clothing before the next question is asked.

Continue alternating Q & A until Truthseeker is naked. Should take about 4-5 minutes.

Live call in question. Both participants comment.

Final clock is checked, remaining air time (about 6 minutes), is divided up equally for Lothian’s closing statement, then TruthSeeker1234 closing statement. Men in white coats take Truthseeker away