Remote viewing

[Ed]

In sashaying about the Internet trying to find the CIA Stargate documents which have, paranormally, not revealed themselves to me, I came accross this

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12081299

and this

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12509207

Using this search

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&....ncbi.nlm.nih.gov+"remote+viewing"++site:.gov

Now, I may be getting old, gotta pee a lot and all that but Perception and Motor skills is a real, peer reviewed journal. It really is. I don't have access to full articles but the most recent one using this Ingo Swann guy is 2002. Anyone have any more info... like the access that I am denied?

 

[DangerousBeliefs]

Remote viewing may be enhanced by complex experimentally generated magnetic fields designed to interact with the neuromagnetic "binding factor" of consciousness.

I love the sweeping leaps of logic these kinds of papers make.

Uh... first could you provide EVIDENCE for remove viewing please?

(And only 1 30-minute session is worth a paper? Oh, please!)

 

[Ed]

I love the sweeping leaps of logic these kinds of papers make.

Uh... first could you provide EVIDENCE for remove viewing please?

(And only 1 30-minute session is worth a paper? Oh, please!)

They evidentially did a number of experiments with this guy (who is an Uber Woo, BTW).

Seriously, what I would expect, if they had the real deal, is that it would take a short time to demonstrate the effect under investigation so 30 minutes would be ample, as far as I am concerned. It depends on the design and results, neither of which are available to me.

Suppose I hung you naked by your ankles in a sensory isolation chamber with a laser pointer in your mouth and you picked, from 10,000 possibilities what someone similarly positioned transmitted from accross campus. 30 minutes, 30 trials a minute, 900 trials total. Suppose you got 900/900? Barring collusion that yould be pretty cool, no? Fact is I don't know what they did and the Journal gives me pause.

 

[Ersby]

I'm sure if you do a search on the titles, it'll lead you to the pdfs of the enitre papers.

*shameless plug*

http://www.skepticreport.com/tools/rvlist.htm

He results are summarised on this page, under 2002.

Experiment 1: The photgraphs were judged by three raters comparing Swann's notes to the target directly and judging on a scale of 1 to 7 (1=no information/totally inaccurate, 4=ambiguous, 7=identical/obvious congruence). There were three methods of judging. The first, by correlating notes to the images got an average of 3.5, the second, by "denotative" definition of the words compared to the target got 3.7, and the third, by emotional correlation to the target got 4.1.

Experiment 2: The notes were rated by two people comparing the notes directly to the target. They were asked to judge on a scale from 0 (no response/no obvious congruence) to 10 (comments reflected the basic structure and theme of the stimuli). The average score across the eight sessions was 5.5 and using Windows based programs in the procedure gave worse results than programs running in MS-DOS (!)

Nothing too significant here.

 

[T'ai Chi]

I'm sure if you do a search on the titles, it'll lead you to the pdfs of the enitre papers.

*shameless plug*

http://www.skepticreport.com/tools/rvlist.htm

Ersby,

In your writeup of the summary of results from these many experiments, some of them aren't too informative. For example, what are we supposed to get from:

"1974

Honorton, Harper
Psi-mediated imagery and ideation in an experimental procedure for regulating perceptual input
No. of trials: 30. Hit rate 43%
JASPR 68 156-168"

?

The number of trials and hit rate alone don't tell us much of anything useful. In situations like this, was this all the information that could be pulled from the paper?

 

[Ersby]

You've gone a bit off topic here.

I don't have the paper for the Honorton/Harper experiment. Just the results.

If any knows anything more, let me know and I'll put it in the next update.

 

[patnray]

In sashaying about the Internet trying to find the CIA Stargate documents which have, paranormally, not revealed themselves to me

They are only available for Remote Viewing...