Religious Emails

[Marmaduke]

I received this email today. I wonder how the religious would react if they received an email dealing with atheism as long as it said delete it if you don't like it at the bottom? The problem is, I do delete them, but I'm wearing out my delete key.

Paul Harvey says:

I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December. I don't agree with Darwin, but I didn't go out and hire a lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory Of evolution.

Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer Before a football game.

So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there reading the entire book of Acts. They're just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going home from the game.

But it's a Christian prayer, some will argue.

Yes, and this is the United States of America and Canada, countries Founded on Christian principles. According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect-somebody chanting Hare Krishna?

If I went to a football game in Jerusalem , I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.

If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.

If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha.

And I wouldn't be offended. It wouldn't bother me one bit. When in Rome ...

But what about the atheists? is another argument.

What about them?
Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer!

Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don't think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world's foundations.

Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating; to pray before we go to sleep.

Our Bible tells us to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying.

God, help us.
And if that last sentence offends you, well .. just delete this message.

The silent majority has been silent too long.. It's time we let that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard that the vast majority don't care what they want. It is time the majority rules! It's time we tell them, you don't have to pray; you don't have to say the pledge of allegiance; you don't have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your right.. But by golly, you are no longer going to take our rights away. We are fighting back . .. and we WILL WIN!

God bless us one and all ... especially those who denounce Him. God bless America and Canada, despite all their faults.
They are still the greatest nations of all.

God bless our service men and women who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God.

May 2007 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions.

Keep looking up.

If you agree with this, please pass it on. If not delete it.

Keep this going around the globe.....read it and forward every time you receive it. We can't give up on this issue.

 

[Antiquehunter]

What about changing it and passing it on?

xxx xxxxx says:

I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December. I don't agree with the creation story, but I don't have a problem if parents want to tell their kids lies in the comfort of their own home. However, try and teach my kids creation in science class, and you'll hear from my lawyer.

Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness may be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game. Because - those people praying vote, and their vote may be based in irrational beliefs, permitting those they elect to perpetrate evil on the rest of us.

So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there reading the entire book of Acts. Actually, that wouldn't bother me. If people feel its important they could read a bunch of any old fairy tales prior to kickoff. They're just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going home from the game. But, since I don't believe in that particular invisible friend, it is a waste of my time - so why don't we just get on with the bloodthirsty sporting display?

But it's a Christian prayer, some will argue.

Yes, and this is the United States of America and Canada, countries Founded on Christian principles. Well, actually, they weren't, actually. In fact some of the founding fathers were as close to atheists as you can get - like Thomas Jefferson. And Canada?!? What makes you think that Canada was founded on Christian principles? You mean distributing smallpox-ridden blankets to indigenous peoples is a Christian principle?

According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect-somebody chanting Hare Krishna? Only in an airport.

If I went to a football game in Jerusalem , I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.

If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.

If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha.

Actually, I'm not sure why I would hear any sort of prayer invoked when it comes to a sporting event. Bring on the SPORT. If god wants to watch, he can buy his own damn ticket.

And I wouldn't be offended. It wouldn't bother me one bit. When in Rome ...

But what about the atheists? is another argument.

What about them?
Nobody is asking them to be baptized - and thank you for that. We're not going to pass the collection plate - go ahead, I could use a free quarter. Just humor us for 30 seconds - why? If you want to be humoured, tell us a good 30 second joke rather than bleat nonsense to the invisible pink unicorn. If that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer!

Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don't think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world's foundations. Actually - it might very well. I suspect the folks that drove the planes into those two really tall buildings one September a few years ago liked to pray before football games. Get the drift?

Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Atheists are also sick and tired while others impose their beliefs on us. Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating; to pray before we go to sleep. So - no one is telling you to not pray before yout eat, or not pray before you go to sleep. But I would like my football to be untainted by any notion of prayer. I want to see blood, sweat, and grown men swatting each other on the buttocks and reaching between their legs for a piece of pigskin. THAT is religion to me.

Our Bible tells us to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying. No - we're telling you to shut up for a few seconds so we can sing the anthem, get a beer, and watch a game.

Invisble Pink Unicorn, help us.
And if that last sentence offends you, well .. just delete this message.

The silent majority has been silent too long.. It's time we let that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard that the vast majority don't care what they want. It is time the majority rules! It's time we tell them, you don't have to pray; you don't have to say the pledge of allegiance; you don't have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your right.. You know, you had me up to here. But don't you see that unfortunately, you also determine my ability to live freely because you also choose to vote. As far as your religious views don't impair my ability to also enjoy life, liberty, justice and football, you're entitled to your views. But by golly, you are no longer going to take our rights away. We are fighting back . .. and we WILL WIN! Actually, you won't. And nor will your sucky football team.

God bless us one and all ... especially those who denounce Him. God bless America and Canada, despite all their faults. You see - there you go again. I don't desire or require your blessing. So kindly keep it to yourself.
They are still the greatest nations of all. Gee - and you suggest that atheists are arrogant?!??

God bless our service men and women who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God. No, they're actually fighting to protect us and our rights. Period.

May 2007 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions. Your families and your institutions - you can have all the god you want in your foundation. Me - I'd prefer some concrete and bricks.

Keep looking up. Why? I agree, stars are pretty cool, but I'm not sure I need to see them ALL the time.

If you agree with this, please pass it on. If not delete it.

Keep this going around the globe.....read it and forward every time you receive it. We can't give up on this issue.

 

[Ducky]

Yes, and this is the United States of America and Canada

I've often joked that Canada was the 51st state, but last I checked it wasn't part of the US, nor is the official name of Canada "The United States of Canada" but it was known as the "Dominion of Canada."

...countries Founded on Christian principles.

Well that's a matter for debate. It can certainly be shown with article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli that the United States of America is "in no way founded in the Christian religion." Not sure if the same can be said of any of Canada's documents, but that's another story.

 

[Marmaduke]

LOL. I like the idea of rewriting it and sending it to everyone whose email has been listed.

I guess the part that really got my dander up is the 'we will win' part. As usual christians are going on as if they are being persecuted.

 

[Raphael]

I'm on the team that strikes back with parody.
At least it's not bullets that will flying over their heads.

 

[The Mutha]

Somehow I ended up on the Jesus Lovin' Biker Babes email ring. Apparently I must be a JLBB because I'm female and I ride a bike... They have invited me to multiple events over the past two months since they somehow found my email address. It's here in Houston, so they probably got it from my women's motorcycle club that I ride with.

Here's a sample of the emails that I get from their leader, Joan, on a regular basis...

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God bless you all Bikers from all over the place…..



Jim and I wish you the very merriest Christmas day you have ever had. God be with you and bless you and keep you as we close this year of 2006 and press on in our callings to the year of 2007. It has been an awesome year filled with many mountaintops and some valleys, but they make the mountaintops ever sweeter, don’t you think? I am thankful always for every biker friend we have and those yet to come, y’all are, as I’ve said before, an awesome lot, burly bears with hearts of gold and diamonds in the rough! We all are works in progess and I’m thankful for that gift of mercy I unwrap each and every morning of my life that says this is a new day and a new chance to do it right for You. I look so forward to ridin’ on into 2007, pressing onward and upward towards the heavenly places….!



Jesus Lovin’ Biker Babes, I love ya! Our Christmas party was the best (see attached picture), we had a great time of fellowship, laughter, snackin’ out, sharing, singing, relecting on the joy that Christmas brings. We had a blast singing our traditional 12 JLBB Days of Christmas and JLBB Christmas carols; Rikki was a hoot singin’ the JLBB rendition of Santa Baby, Elena sang some gorgeous songs of Jesus’ birth, we read the tear-jerking little story of Claude the Dog (many dog lovers in our bunch!)…and felt the sweet Presence of the Lord as we reflected on the sacrifice of the Father God toward us, For unto us a Son if given. Thank you Lord for You.

I do want to thank you, Cyndi B., for hostessing the JLBB Christmas party – it was wonderful being in your home! God bless you and Perry.



Well, that’s it for now, just want to say again, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU !!! and a HARLEY NEW YEAR !!! (or Honda, or Suzuki, or Yamaha, or BMW, or Victory, …got a couple wheels with a motor ridin’ on top? – it’s all good! )



Ridin’ and abidin’ under that awesome Shadow of the Almighty! What a place to be…

JLBB Joan

At your service in His Name.

 

[Beerina]

If I went to a football game in Jerusalem , I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.

If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.

If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha.

If I went to a [arbitrary government function] in [arbitrary country], I would not expect to be lead in a prayer for any religion. Nor would I be offended by it, but I also have a thick skin. But the reason the government is (usually) forbidden from doing this has absolutely nothing to do with offending you. It has everything to do with preventing politicians from using promises of mandating this or that religion as part of their platform, i.e. their quest for power, which humanity has learned leads to massive, murderous tragedy. (It is offensive to me to think the reason government shouldn't do it is merely because it offends somebody. Like hunting as an argument for gun ownership, it has nothing to do with the real, valid, constitutional reasons forbidding the actions.)

Now having said that, I also recognize that, with the massive growth of government and its intrusion into every day life coincident with democracy, that there are ever more and more things "government does" that, perforce, causes the government to strip religion from that activity since "government can't do religion".

While sports events are small things, graduation ceremonies and the like are large, life milestones, and are inherently a major part of lilfe, a life that frequently includes religion as an inseparable, integral part of it. To many people, getting through school is intertwined with religion in building a lifetime outlook on the world. For the government to insinuate itself and say, hey, here is your free, government education that you must pay for whether you use it or not, and oh, by the way, you can't pray when you graduate, is more than a little bit of affrontery.

 

[pgwenthold]

It is interesting that they bring up the prayer at football games lawsuit which was not brought by atheists, but, in fact, came from Catholics and Mormons, who were pi$$ed because the way the system was set up by the school, they never got to lead the prayers and it was always the Baptists.

I think the first thing to do is to educate the one who sent the story as to what the lawsuit is all about. It is the absolute best example of why we need a separation of church and state.

 

[Jon.]

It can certainly be shown with article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli that the United States of America is "in no way founded in the Christian religion." Not sure if the same can be said of any of Canada's documents, but that's another story.

From the preamble to Constitution Act, 1982, also known as the Charter of Rights and Freedoms:
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/charter/index.html

Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law:

Not quite Christian, but not quite secular either.

 

[Tricky]

As usual, the accredition on this is false. It is the work of an obscure writer.

most of it is the work of Nick Gholson, a sports writer for the Times Record News in Wichita Falls, Texas.

At least George Carlin wasn't blamed this time.