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"Real" vampires.

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No, nothing to do with anaemia, porphyria, or any other recognised medical condition (that I've heard of anyway) sometimes mistakenly linked with "real" vampirism, but a person who seems convinced that they aren't a "wannabe" or blood-fetishist, but "actually" a vampire. A vampire being a person that "needs" to drink blood.

I think they're nuts. Any thoughts?

ETA - this has to be my favourite page. They seem to be cherry-picking from the traditional "powers" of the folkloric/literary vampire. Classic social inadequacy issues, surely?
 
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Elizabeth I said:
I think it looks like some kind of performance art. Surely the creator(s) CAN'T be serious.
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Actually, one thing that I've learned from hanging out with way too many of the oddball types at my university is that people who really, truly want to call themselves vampires can become as deluded as any religious person or homeopath.

In fact, the latter is a good example. Many of the "real vampire" types have convinced themselves that a little bit of blood every now and then really does make them feel better, stronger, healthier, etc. I don't think that the obvious need be stated, but I'll do it anyway - the placebo effect can be very strong when somebody needs to beleive something.
 
Big Les said:
http://www.drinkdeeplyanddream.com/realvampire/

No, nothing to do with anaemia, porphyria, or any other recognised medical condition (that I've heard of anyway) sometimes mistakenly linked with "real" vampirism, but a person who seems convinced that they aren't a "wannabe" or blood-fetishist, but "actually" a vampire. A vampire being a person that "needs" to drink blood.

I think they're nuts. Any thoughts?

ETA - this has to be my favourite page. They seem to be cherry-picking from the traditional "powers" of the folkloric/literary vampire. Classic social inadequacy issues, surely?
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This subculture has been around for quite some time. It became more fashionable in the 80's with the advent of the Goths and is still going.

Like most subcultures that are embraced by the young, as soon as it becomes apperant they will age like everyone else, it will be abandoned like bondage pants from HotTopic.

I look at it more as a combination of fetishism and evolving folklore.
 
I think they are self-deluded. I doesn't look like performance art to me, mostly because performance artists don't come up with gems like this:
"Our ocular nerves are more efficient at carrying low-grade light emissions to the brain. This means that there is less loss of resolution and contrast in low-light environments (we can see things more clearly in the dark than can humans)."
Hehe, that's a good one.
Having made jokes now; I gotta say that I wouldn't insult people like this in person, on purpose. They lack self confidence and so imagine themselves as different in a mysterious and powerful way. Picking on them won't get them to stop and it certainly doesn't make them feel better about themselves.
But that "efficient nerve" line is pretty funny though.
 
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Loss Leader said:
I hope they're not really drinking human blood because damn.
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It's a manifestation of the same mental illness as people who think they're Napoleon or Jesus.

It's a serious enough problem that most hospitals are aware that the blood storage needs extra security. When Vancouver had a riot in the early '90s, I was working in St. Paul's Hospital, and part of our code orange protocol was to put the blood under lock and key. This was especially important, because it was a level 4 lab, which meant that a lot of the blood was contaminated and if it was drunk, it would be an epidemiological disaster.

The two main targets for hospital breakins: narcotics and blood.
 
Life imitating art.

I can tell you that looking like vampire can be very attractive to certain types of women.

I had fun in my younger days....
 
I was aware of blood-fetishism and even self-deluded blood-drinking types, but this person seems to be disturbingly well aware of these phenomena and classifies herself and others as "actual" vampires with a real physical need for blood.

I guess it's the same delusion; you just don't usually see such "sensible" discussion verging on self-awareness of being a fraud! I suppose it's like psychics who despair at "fraudulent" psychics...
 
Big Les said:
I guess it's the same delusion; you just don't usually see such "sensible" discussion verging on self-awareness of being a fraud! I suppose it's like psychics who despair at "fraudulent" psychics...
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That's kinda what I thought about it.
 
Just a bunch of people who aren't satisfied with their lives, So they decide to read a lot of Ann rice novels and pretend they're vampires. It makes them feel like they have some power in their lives even though they don't.

They even make up nonsense such as "Energy vampires" who magically such peoples 'psychic energy'.
 
Dustin said:
They even make up nonsense such as "Energy vampires" who magically such peoples 'psychic energy'.
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So... according to some of the failed Challenge applicants, Randi is an Energy Vampire. :D
 
I like the line: "We are (obviously) separate from the human race."

Sounds very similar to the kind of garbage spouted by followers of White Supremacist movements.
 
Dustin said:
Just a bunch of people who aren't satisfied with their lives, So they decide to read a lot of Ann rice novels and pretend they're vampires. It makes them feel like they have some power in their lives even though they don't.

They even make up nonsense such as "Energy vampires" who magically such peoples 'psychic energy'.
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That's my thinking too. I've actually known a few. One day they grow up and realise they're getting old like everyone else and the pretense is shattered. Then, they'll drop the vamp bit and start dressing like Star Trek characters. Or become Jehovah's Witnesses.

It's really the same as when some teenage girl buys a book on witchcraft and suddenly becomes a "Wiccan." Someone dissatisfied with life and wants to feel a little "special."
 
simonmaal said:
I like the line: "We are (obviously) separate from the human race."

Sounds very similar to the kind of garbage spouted by followers of White Supremacist movements.
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The white supremacists say that others are obviously separate from the human race or deserve to be.

Vampires suck.
 
Elizabeth I said:
I think it looks like some kind of performance art. Surely the creator(s) CAN'T be serious.
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This is a phrase I see here a lot. (Not to single you out - Others have posted the same thing on other threads.)

I don't think people realise just how many have spun off into the fringe in the last 15 years. It's mind-boggling. These websites aren't fiction or parodies-people actually believe all this stangeness. Vampires. Dispensationalism. Religious Nationalism. Bad photography as proof of ghosts. Reiki. Demons. "Scientific" ghost hunting. Even table tipping has made a comeback. This isn't just a few kooks out there. This stuff is now in mainstream society. Something is terribly wrong.
 
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