Question for Republicans about Schwartzenegger

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I'm curious what Republicans who felt Clinton's personal "morality" was reprehensible, would say if several rumored vices of Schwartzenegger's turn out to be true?

1. pot smoking

2. steroid use (a vice Clinton didn't have)

3. womanizing (even including well reported instances of sexual harrassment)

Would any of you feel these make Schwartzenegger morally contemptible, too?
 
Clancie said:
I'm curious what Republicans who felt Clinton's personal "morality" was reprehensible, would say if several rumored vices of Schwartzenegger's turn out to be true?
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"Rumored vices", Clancie? Why don't you ever check your own claims?

Clancie said:
1. pot smoking
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Arnold S. has smoken pot, yes. He doesn't deny this. So, it's no "rumor".

Clancie said:
2. steroid use (a vice Clinton didn't have)
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He has used anabolic steroids, yes. He doesn't deny this. So, it's no "rumor".

How do you know for certain Clinton hasn't used steroids?

Clancie said:
3. womanizing (even including well reported instances of sexual harrassment)
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Is "womanizing" a vice? What are those "well reported instances"? What lawsuits has he lost?

Clancie said:
Would any of you feel these make Schwartzenegger morally contemptible, too?
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Would it be too much to ask to provide some real evidence of your accusations? "Rumored vices".... You couldn't be bothered to look up any of these "rumored vices". Now, let's see some evidence of the sexual harrassment cases he has lost.

I'm not defending him, I am pointing out that you apparently waste no chance of smearing those you don't like.
 
What I find MUCH more interesting than the supposed scandal is what the far right wingers will try to do about the fact that he's pro-choice. I don't see why anyone should vote for him at this point since he's got zero experience in politics, and so far he hasn't come up with a plan to get California out of the mess it's in. But republicans are in a bit of a jam - he's obviously much more popular than the other candidates they're putting forward, in no small part because he's not a radical like Simon or Issa (who was smart enough to back out after Arnold jumped in but not smart enough to know he never had a chance anyways). But since they WANT a radical agenda, he's not really a good fit for them, so I don't think they know what to do with him. They're worried he might lead republicans back towards the center, but they don't want a democrat of any flavor. What's a right-wing nutjob to do? Stay tuned...

Edit: Oh yeah, don't forget Arnold opposed Clinton's impeachment. Much more of a dilema for the nutjobs than his own foibles - repugnicans can easily overlook those without troubling their concience.
 
Arnold isn't my idea of a real republican.

I really dont care about anything political coming out of hollywood.
 
As far as we can tell, he is gonna blast his way in with steel jaw set using a light ant-aircraft gun, thoroughly mangle the bad guys, rescue the girl, and sweep out again on a helicopter/motorbike/car JUST ahead of the explosion where the bad guys die. I wonder if it will be on the news at 11...

Ain't reality in California wonderful?
 
We should be allowed to do that stuff a little bit, cause otherwise we're way better behaved than liberals, usually.


I'll kick his ass if he doesn't fall in line with the party and obey our moral code, for the most part.


If that ever happens, but things don't go as I plan, then I wouldn't vote for him, even if I did live in the only state worse than the one in which I now live.



edit-- I'm not really going to kick Arnold Schwartzenegger's ass. I don't want to hurt him so bad he never makes another movie without super special-effects to make him walk out of his hospital bed!
 
The answer to everything will be: its OK now because Clinton did it too.
Hypocritical.
The Rush right doesn't like the guy, even when he gets in it will cause a split in the R party (evidenced by NTW's post) that may not be all bad. Anyone old enough to remember the travesty of what they did to loyal Republican Nelson Rockefeller at the R convention (vs. Goldwater...who later redeemed himself) in San Francisco?
What Nelson did in response was true heroism and a last stand for rational, reasonable Republicanism.
There's something to be said for "institutional memory."
 
subgenius said:
The answer to everything will be: its OK now because Clinton did it too.
Hypocritical.
The Rush right doesn't like the guy, even when he gets in it will cause a split in the R party (evidenced by NTW's post) that may not be all bad. Anyone old enough to remember the travesty of what they did to loyal Republican Nelson Rockefeller at the R convention (vs. Goldwater...who later redeemed himself) in San Francisco?
What Nelson did in response was true heroism and a last stand for rational, reasonable Republicanism.
There's something to be said for "institutional memory."
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If I were a voter in Cal, I'd vote for him.

Arnold has not lied about any of these things he's done in the past, which makes him completely different from Clinton.

The point is that he is from Hollywood and I dont trust him untill he can prove something to me.
 
Arnold's credentials are fair game. Anyone who thought investigating Clinton's sexual impropriety would be consistent to think that Arnold's alleged misconduct should also think it ok to investigate Arnold. Arnold was vocally opposed to the investigation and said he was ashamed for what the Republicans had done.

Aside from his pro gun control stance and some of his ideas about social programs my politics are very close to Arnold’s. I like him. I doubt that is sufficient reason to be governor. I'm rather confident that he will do a far better job than Davis will.

I think it very unlikely that a conservative will win governor of California or mayor of New York or Los Angeles.

Guiliani was pro-choice, pro-gun control and liberal on other social issues. He did not divide the party. I don't think that there is anything different with Arnold. We will see.
 
3 reasonable, but differing, posts in a row, I think we're setting a record.
Let's keep it up.
 
According to this Slate article, he seems quite keen on Kurt Waldheim. Is this going to be a problem, or does no-one remember or care who Kurt Waldheim was anyway?
 
JamesM said:
According to this Slate article, he seems quite keen on Kurt Waldheim. Is this going to be a problem, or does no-one remember or care who Kurt Waldheim was anyway?
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Yes they named that disease after him, you know, "Waldheimer's Disease" where you forget you were a Nazi.
 
For all the rumors of womanizing there are others in Hollywood, like Jaimie Lee Curtis who say it's false.

Even if it were true, I've yet to see or hear anything confirming or denying it from Arnold. My personal issue with Clinton wasn't that he may have strayed. It was the lying.

Hey, drugs or no drugs it's still in the past. Bush had some drug issues as well. I still don't think Clinton was entirely forthcoming with the "didn't inhale" bit though. Sue me for being a skeptic.

Steroid use is drug use just not to get high so you can actually condense your 3 subjects into two.

I'm not defending Arnold nor bashing Clinton pertaining to past incidents in life. I am, however, going to side with Arnold over Clinton on the issue of integrity and honesty, which has always been my complaint as far as personal traits pertaining to a public official, though I really don't see what clinton lied about as an issue for becoming a political official, at least prior to taking office, I do like honesty.

so if asked what the difference is, I'll simply be honest and tell you it's that one is honest and the other was not.
 
Wasnt it just a few months ago when we were all telling celebrities to shut he f' up and keep their political views to themsleves.

Whats changed? Oh I know.........ARNOLDS A REPUBLICAN!
 
Clancie said:
I'm curious what Republicans who felt Clinton's personal "morality" was reprehensible, would say if several rumored vices of Schwartzenegger's turn out to be true?

1. pot smoking

2. steroid use (a vice Clinton didn't have)

3. womanizing (even including well reported instances of sexual harrassment)

Would any of you feel these make Schwartzenegger morally contemptible, too?
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Did he lie about any of this while under oath?

No? Then I don't care...
 
Tmy said:
Wasnt it just a few months ago when we were all telling celebrities to shut he f' up and keep their political views to themsleves.

Whats changed? Oh I know.........ARNOLDS A REPUBLICAN!
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No, we weren't telling them to shut up, we we're telling them to stop crying, pissing, and moaning when they received a public backlash.
 
Tmy said:
Wasnt it just a few months ago when we were all telling celebrities to shut he f' up and keep their political views to themsleves.

Whats changed? Oh I know.........ARNOLDS A REPUBLICAN!
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DOH !
 
What we have to do is encourage more clebs to enter politicis. Is there anything betterthan watching rich n famous people being humiliated? I dont think so!

How does Gov. Mike Tyson sound?
 
Tmy said:
Wasnt it just a few months ago when we were all telling celebrities to shut he f' up and keep their political views to themsleves.

Whats changed? Oh I know.........ARNOLDS A REPUBLICAN!
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No. What has changed is that he isn't just talking the talk. He's actually running to do something about it.
 
Troll said:
No. What has changed is that he isn't just talking the talk. He's actually running to do something about it.
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Well, he did once star in the movie "The Running Man"...and has just finished "The Rundown".

Which makes me wonder if he is fit for the job as Governor:

How will he be as Governor?
"Dr. Doolittle"

How should we describe his term?
"End of Days"

What will he do about the deficit?
"Eraser"

How will he approach any inquiry into his past?
"True Lies"

How do we know he will do something for the elderly with constipation?
"Last Action Hero"

How do we know he will do something about violence in schools?
"Kindergarten Cop"

What if California is hit by a terrorist attack?
"Terminator 2: Judgment Day"

What's he going to do about the wildlife?
"Predator"

What's his economic plan going to be called?
"Raw Deal"

If he has a mistress, what will she be called?
"Red Sonja"

How will he find money to solve California's debt?
"Scavenger Hunt"

How will he solve the problem of obese Californians?
"Stay Hungry"

How will historians describe his term?
"The Long Goodbye"

Folks, you heard it here first: Arnold is qualified! :D
 
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