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Presenting John Edward, Mr Nice Guy...

Loki

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What do you do when the ratings are falling faster than ectoplasmic trumpets when the lights go on?? ... turn to charity work of course!!

Here he comes again.

Renowned psychic John Edward returns to Australia to help raise money for the Sydney Children's Hospital Foundation.

"I was moved by the audiences that I met both times on my trips to Australia - I loved the country and didn't want to be seen as someone who comes there and 'works' and leaves without giving back."

And he's not getting any cheaper...
Ticket pricing at: Sydney SuperDome, NSW on Tue 5 Apr 2005 7:30pm

a reserve $101.60
b reserve $61.30

Well, at least some kids will get something out this (but it sort of feels a bit like a cigarette company donating money to cancer research).
 
Maybe he'll meet Cherie Blair.:)

Indeed, I wonder if this stunt is being organised by the same guy that arranged Mrs Blair's tour.

In sharp contrast, Maurice Henderson, the executive director of the Queen Elizabeth Hospital Research Foundation in Adelaide, argued that people had made donations in good faith and Mrs Blair and Mr Markson, her promoter - known locally as "Mr 20 Per Cent" - should be held accountable.
Mr Henderson claims his foundation was short-changed two years ago when it signed on for a speaking tour by Mr Giuliani, the former mayor of New York.
Heavyweights
"We were shown a budget from Mr Markson, the promoter, that suggested we would receive A$197,000. In the end we actually ended up with A$20,000," said Mr Henderson, who plans to cut out the middleman next time.
Mr Markson's supporters say he has raised large sums for charity and underwrites costs to ensure charities face no liabilities from a flop. "If Cherie Blair wasn't coming to Australia there wouldn't be that money raised for the children so it [the controversy] is sad, but that is the way of the world, that's the media," Mr Markson said last night. "I have an impeccable reputation in this marketplace and the Fleet Street press have a go at me for political reasons - it's a way of dragging down Tony Blair by getting at me."
The Children's Cancer Institute of Australia, which is guaranteed only £99,800 or about one-fifth of the overall proceeds from Mrs Blair's tour, backed him up. "Nobody has done anything wrong. There are always going to be associated costs in a visit like this," it said.
http://books.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5122570-99819,00.html
 
The controversial Mr. Mark Markson is also in the spotlight because of a charity show next month, where the Danish Crown Prince and his (ex)Australian wife will be the guests of honor.

At first, the Red Cross refused to answer questions on how much he would get, but eventually caved in. He will get 50,000 Australian Dollars for himself.

Public scrutiny sucks, doesn't it.....?
 
CFLarsen said:
Since you made this post, technically, you're not.

:p

(Did that count?)

But, yeah, this sucks big time. Urgh. Poor, poor Eastern states. Poor deluded fools there. Give them one for me, Sydney skeptics.
 
So... if we don't need to fear death, because there is an afterlife (and John must believe that if he believes his own act) why the rush to save the children? Why donate to a hospital? Why not donate to schools that can train us all to speak to our loved ones? Won't that benifit humanity more in the long run?

Or maybe just donate guns to the hospitals so they can systematically eliminate all those suffering under the limitations of flesh? Then they can all live happy lives in the spirit world, remembering nothing clearly but the first letters of their names!

If there was a Hell, I know I'd end up there anyway for that last remark... no reason to hold back: John isn't a very good businessman. By saving lives, isn't the hospital just eliminating potential future customers? He's helping the competition!
 
Next time you feel like giving to charity, folks -- don't forget to get an agent first.

Mrs Blair and "trickle-down" theory -- the charity gets the trickle, the "giver" gets the treacle.
 
Do not know about John Edward's motives myself other than that if they are aligned with a spiritualistc belief then there is no philosophical contradiction in helping children whilst believing there is no need to fear death.

If he is acting according to his spiritual beliefs then what he is doing in his own eyes is helping to reduce or even stop the suffering of others.

If not, then who know's still...
 
WhiteLion said:
Do not know about John Edward's motives myself other than that if they are aligned with a spiritualistc belief then there is no philosophical contradiction in helping children whilst believing there is no need to fear death.

If he is acting according to his spiritual beliefs then what he is doing in his own eyes is helping to reduce or even stop the suffering of others.

If not, then who know's still...

I cannot comment on John Edward's beliefs but I can comment on my own. I believe Edward is a fraud and that he knows he is just cold/hot reading his victims. Because of this I would question his motivation when it comes to all things, even charity. I believe that he is doing this to make himself look good to aid him in his quest for new victims.

Again, this is my opinion and what I say reflects on no one but me.
 
WhiteLion said:
If he is acting according to his spiritual beliefs then what he is doing in his own eyes is helping to reduce or even stop the suffering of others.

Then give them all a nice overdose of pain killers! This is a blatant hypocracy. Your nonsense about the "pain of others" doesn't gloss over this glaring contradiction in his "spiritual beliefs."
 
Delphi_ote, what are you writing about?

And you wrote about the nonsense of my opinions, what opinions?
I simply do not understand what you are trying to say, besides you perhaps are not familiar with the philosophy of spiritualism.

The opinions right to left about wether or not John Edward is real or not was simply not a concern as I mention the "if".
If he conducts compassionate help for the sake of minimizing suffering aligned with the actual belief, then it isn't contradictive to the belief.

If it is a contradiction of your own beliefs then that needs to be adressed before assumed so that I can understand this, if that was what you were assessing?
 

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