Poll finds more blame Bush than Obama for economy

[BenBurch]

It remains to be seen what (literally) a few billion spent on GOP propaganda will do over the next four months, but the people are not buying the message yet;

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_...finds-more-blame-bush-than-obama-for-economy/

CBS News) When President Obama delivers a major campaign speech on the economy today in Ohio, some in his party are concerned it will be too backward looking, with allusions to the presidency of George W. Bush. But according to a new Gallup poll, that message may resonate with voters.

More than three years after Mr. Obama took office, 68 percent of Americans still say former President Bush deserves a great deal or a moderate amount of blame for the struggling economy, according to Gallup. Just 52 percent say the same about Mr. Obama.

And even though economic indicators have kept alive concerns about the pace of the recovery, the poll suggests that independents are more likely to blame Mr. Bush than Mr. Obama -- and even more so now than they were last September. In September, Gallup found that 60 percent of independents blamed Mr. Obama for the economy. Now, just 51 percent said Mr. Obama deserves blame, while 67 percent said Mr. Bush does.

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[applecorped]

I came across a poll that states that chocolate is better than vanilla.


I was gobsmacked.

 

[BenBurch]

I came across a poll that states that chocolate is better than vanilla.


I was gobsmacked.

That's nice. When that matters in American Politics, I'll ask you for a cite.

 

[RandFan]

I came across a poll that states that chocolate is better than vanilla.


I was gobsmacked.

If chocolate and vanilla are ever political ideologies then vanilla might have reason to worry.

 

[applecorped]

That's nice. When that matters in American Politics, I'll ask you for a cite.

No you won't. Polls are for suckers.

 

[not_so_new]

If chocolate and vanilla are ever political ideologies then vanilla might have reason to worry.

I happen to like vanilla...... but I am all "anti-establishment" like that.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

I was driving in the country this afternoon, and I listened to Rush Limbaugh rant about this for a little bit.

I have no idea what his complaint was. (Apparently he's primarily upset at Obama's middle name.)

He seemed to think there was something wrong with combining responses that blamed Bush "a great deal" and "moderately" to get the 68%. But he was pretty incoherent, so I never did hear any argument before I couldn't stand listening to him anymore.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

It remains to be seen what (literally) a few billion spent on GOP propaganda will do over the next four months, but the people are not buying the message yet;

OTOH, I don't think Romney has associated himself very strongly with Bush in the minds of many voters (even though his proposals are pretty much Bush-but-only-moreso).

He has associated himself repeatedly with Donald Trump though. So go figure. . .

 

[Howie Felterbush]

I was driving in the country this afternoon, and I listened to Rush Limbaugh rant about this for a little bit.

I have no idea what his complaint was. (Apparently he's primarily upset at Obama's middle name.)

He seemed to think there was something wrong with combining responses that blamed Bush "a great deal" and "moderately" to get the 68%. But he was pretty incoherent, so I never did hear any argument before I couldn't stand listening to him anymore.

I thought he was going to be off the air by now for lack of advertising.

I'm pretty sure I was assured of that in a recent thread.

 

[Tricky]

Really, there is nothing surprising about this. Dubya is such a pariah that even Mitt Romney does not seek his endorsement. The question is, "Who could do a better job recovering from the GW Bush administration. It seems like an easy question, since Romney is much closer to the policies espoused by Bush the Younger, but the American Voting Public has a notoriously short memory. Things are bad. Fire the manager. Doesn't matter if the manager pulled you from the basement to the middle of the league.

 

[applecorped]

"Who could do a better job recovering from the GW Bush administration.

At this point it is "Who could do a better job recovering from the Obama administration",

Obama or Mitt.



My bitcoins are on Mitt.

 

[Tricky]

At this point it is "Who could do a better job recovering from the Obama administration",

Obama or Mitt.



My bitcoins are on Mitt.

That's the way Mitt would like to paint it. And he has a lot of money for paint.

But there are a lot of paintings of fictional scenes. Some of them even sell.

 

[applecorped]

That's the way Mitt would like to paint it. And he has a lot of money for paint.

But there are a lot of paintings of fictional scenes. Some of them even sell.

Most of them sell.

 

[Tricky]

Most of them sell.

I see you've never been to a "Starving Artist" festival.

 

[applecorped]

I see you've never been to a "Starving Artist" festival.

Artists are commies.

 

[RandFan]

But he was pretty incoherent, so I never did hear any argument before I couldn't stand listening to him anymore.

I have two books from this guy. I started listening to him around 1987. I was a huge fan. Then one day I started looking at Rush critically and skeptically. There's very little there. He makes a fortune on straw man argument and fallacy. Constantly sighing as bemoans the fact that liberals just don't get it. But hey, he makes a lot of money. He has some talent I'll give him that.

 

[BenBurch]

I see you've never been to a "Starving Artist" festival.

Amen. Ever watch "The Magic of Oil Painting" with Bill Alexander years ago on PBS? He could turn out a believable landscape in 30 minutes with house painting brushes and a pallet knife. His stuff was dozens of times better than the monstrosities I have seen for sale at street art fairs around here.

 

[Howie Felterbush]

Was that the guy with the squirrel?

 

[BenBurch]

Was that the guy with the squirrel?

No, never saw a squirrel. (And he looked nothing like a moose.)

Example;

 

[Howie Felterbush]

Right. My mistake.

Bob Ross was the PBS painting show guy with the squirrel.