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Papa Funkosophy
I dated a Jewish girl in college (not exactly Israeli, but the closest American equivalent). It didn't hurt my productivity any, but then, I didn't try converting her to anything.
Crossbow
Seeking Honesty and Sanity
About the same thing was done to the Chinese who helped to build the western railroads in the late 1800s.
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Papa Funkosophy
Really? I didn't know that at all.Crossbow said:
Well, its certainly a good thing that we had that stipulation, otherwise Asia might have had an impact on American culture. Now excuse me. I have to catch Samuri Jack while I eat some leftover General Tso's chicken.
>>>Israeli advocates of foreign workers - who come also from Thailand, the Philippines and Romania - say they are held by employers in nearly slave-like conditions, and their bosses frequently take their passports and refuse to pay them.>>>
Maybe Israel does qualify for the European Union after all.
Maybe Israel does qualify for the European Union after all.
Grammatron
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El Greco said:
What if it's a male prostitute?
Your honor, I thought she was a man.
A few points:
1). It is a SPECIFIC israeli COMPANY, not the israeli government, that has this requirement. This is no more official government policy than, say, Wal-Mart's policies are official US government policy.
2). This certainly isn't common practice. With all probability, the reason this item is "news" in the first place is precisely due to the "man-bites-dog" character.
3). FWIW, most israelis who heard of this story surely consider it bizzare, as well.
4). As the story shows, while some israeli companies abuse foreign workers, other israelis are their advocates and are against these abuses.
I am not claiming this didn't happen, of course, or is good thing--just that it is hardly some sort of volkish government policy, but instead, a bizzare action by a private corporation that's opposed by most israelies.
1). It is a SPECIFIC israeli COMPANY, not the israeli government, that has this requirement. This is no more official government policy than, say, Wal-Mart's policies are official US government policy.
2). This certainly isn't common practice. With all probability, the reason this item is "news" in the first place is precisely due to the "man-bites-dog" character.
3). FWIW, most israelis who heard of this story surely consider it bizzare, as well.
4). As the story shows, while some israeli companies abuse foreign workers, other israelis are their advocates and are against these abuses.
I am not claiming this didn't happen, of course, or is good thing--just that it is hardly some sort of volkish government policy, but instead, a bizzare action by a private corporation that's opposed by most israelies.
Cleon
King of the Pod People
First of all, I don't doubt Skeptic's comments that this isn't particularly common--or endorsed--within Israel.
That said, I think we'll see more of it. The rising non-Jewish population--Palestinian as well as East European, Indian, Chinese, etc.--is the subject of much discussion in Israel. Those who are most dead set on maintaining a Jewish majority feel threatened by changing demographics.
That said, I think we'll see more of it. The rising non-Jewish population--Palestinian as well as East European, Indian, Chinese, etc.--is the subject of much discussion in Israel. Those who are most dead set on maintaining a Jewish majority feel threatened by changing demographics.
a_unique_person
Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning
There are numerous examples of racism by Israelis towards others. The whole "apartheid" system it is built on is unsustainable.
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Something like this happened in Fiji. The Fijians were happy with democracy until the Indian population grew to a point where they took a majority position in the government...The result was a coup by army factions to restore indigenous fijian rule. There is a very real possibility of Israel going the same way if the majority are other than Jewish.... How does a junta with nuclear weapons in the middle east sound?Cleon said:
Cleon
King of the Pod People
The Fool said:
Uh, there's already one dictator who definitely has nuclear weapons...Musharraf.
Cleopatra said:
No. No restrictions on marrying a furriner that I am aware of. Why would there be? I am sure that some people might think that government would know best here as they do with toilet bowls. What about where you are? You might be thinking of some cases where GI's married Iraqis.
Cleon
King of the Pod People
Cleopatra said:
Well, first of all, we're not talking about marriage, we're just talking about sex. And the last time I checked, you can do the bedspring ballet with whoever you like, foreigner or not. (And I will guarantee that any company that had a policy that its foreign workers couldn't bang Americans wouldn't be able to keep it secret--nor keep any customers--for very long.)
Second, no, you can marry whoever you like as well. There's a little bit of a song and dance you have to go through with the INS to get your spouse permanent residency, but it's more bureacratic BS and filling out forms than any actual restrictions.
Cleon said:
Yeap but when you have sex you might have babies and according to the Israeli legislation the children of Jewish mothers are Jews and Israeli citizens. The problem is with the non-Jewish partners.
That term of those contracts is definetely discriminative as well as a couple of other Laws in Israel that should be abolished. Israel is a new country but if it wants to have a future it needs a Constitution that will define the nature of the State something that in Israel is still pending.
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a_unique_person said:
You know, I can just build up my signature to its limit by your sweeping as you call it "racist" comments about all the Israelis. The least you could is back it up with facts, or will that just get in the way of you making a point?