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Pets and the evacuation

Rolfe

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I haven't seen this discussed at all, so far. How does one cope with pets in a situation like this?

On one hand, when there is so much human need, and resources so stretched trying to rescue people, it seems almost obscene to be thinking about rescuing animals. On the other hand, the stubborn determination of many people not to be parted from their pets will inevitably interfere with a rescue unless some provision is made.

The shelters in Texas had signs outside, "NO GUNS, NO DRUGS, NO ALCOHOL, NO PETS". So what do you do if you've managed to get there, with your cat in a basket or your spaniel on a lead? This story is the only one I've seen dealing with pet rescue. Granted, 15 cats is a bit much. But that lady wasn't going anywhere without them. So, the rescuer tells her, "Yesterday we were shooting the dogs we left behind." I can see there might be circumstances where there was no alternative to that, but as the only option? Are people likely to accept it?

Last night on TV there was a similar story, of a lady with a dog on a lead who had refused several offers of evacuation, but was now willing to go because the evacuation system was now accepting pets.

Obviously, crowded shelters don't want to be filled with dogs and cats and hamsters and tortoises. But what's the alternative? Mandatory euthanasia of all pets in the affected area? Who's going to do that? Are you going to set a vet with a bottle of Euthatal at the entrance to the shelters? Or are you going to turn the animals loose? There are already sad images of abandoned dogs stranded on flooded rooftops. The poor animals might well starve. But if they don't, if they manage to make it to dry land, do the authorities really want to have packs of feral dogs to deal with as well as all the rest of their problems?

If anything like this were to happen here, there would be several animal rescue charities helping evacuate animals, and offering accomodation for pets while their owners were in the shelters. I know there were similar charities working after the tsunami too. I'd imagine the same might be happening in the US, but it's odd that nobody seems to have reported on what's being done.

Rolfe.
 
My fiancee and I have specifically donated money to the SPCA to try and help as many of the pets that have been abandoned and lost as we can. Sadly we realize that most of this money will probably be spent euthanizing or disposing of animal bodies. We have a couple of good friends in NO who were out of town when the hurricane struck (they had left for a wedding before they thought Katrina might go that way). They had left behind three cats and a snake in their house and they are worried sick about them.

I understand that people were told to bring their pets with them when evacuating, but I also understand why an emergency shelter wouldn't want to deal with the extra problems associated with pets. A lot of rescue groups and people are offering emergency foster care but it won't be anywhere near enough.

It's understandable that most of the concern goes for the people who are affected by the hurricane, but I tend to see pets as family members who deserve the same consideration and care as humans. I'm less sentimental about livestock (which admittedly exists for the purpose of business) but still don't believe in abandoning anything that is dependent on my care.
 
Dan Beaird said:
We have a couple of good friends in NO who were out of town when the hurricane struck (they had left for a wedding before they thought Katrina might go that way). They had left behind three cats and a snake in their house and they are worried sick about them.
So long as the water hasn't risen so far that the pets were drowned, they might well be quite all right. No shortage of water, and cats can survive on water alone for a couple of weeks. And a snake - well, a colleague of mine was once asked to give evidence against someone who was accused of abandoning a snake for a week. He asked the humane society, did the snake actually notice?

I hope they can get to the house fairly soon, because if they can, they might be able to get the pets out in relatively OK condition.

Rolfe.
 
Rolfe said:
So long as the water hasn't risen so far that the pets were drowned, they might well be quite all right. No shortage of water, and cats can survive on water alone for a couple of weeks. And a snake - well, a colleague of mine was once asked to give evidence against someone who was accused of abandoning a snake for a week. He asked the humane society, did the snake actually notice?

I hope they can get to the house fairly soon, because if they can, they might be able to get the pets out in relatively OK condition.

Rolfe.

When I was a younger man and living at my family home, my brother decided to drive my parents crazy by buying a ball python. Its first act as a pet was to escape and stay hidden for several months. Several exhaustive searches were performed initially but finally the snake was discovered in a cabinet full of dish cloths. It drank an entire bowl of water and mostly sat around afterwards.
 
It appears that there was in fact a highly organised and capable pet rescue effort right from the beginning, under the auspices of the Louisiana State University School of Veterinary Medicine.
The animal shelter at the John M. Parker Coliseum opened on August 31, 2005. Within 48 hours, over 500 animals had been received. Veterinarians, technicians, and students from the School, as well as volunteer veterinary professionals from all across the country and Canada have come to the shelter to help.
I got this from the American Veterinary Medical Association following a report at the weekend in the journal of the British Veterinary Association.

Everything seems to have been covered, including evacuation of animals hospitalised at veterinary clinics in New Orleans, and search facilities for owners looking for lost pets. It looks as if there was always provision for pets brought out by evacuating owners, and for the care of animals found in the flooded area.

There is no bad news in that story, which does rather make me wonder where the bad news might be hidden - surely it can't all have been plain sailing and sweetness and light? But mostly I wonder, since animal rescue stories are usually so popular with the public, why were there no news reports of the animal rescue effort? There is a press release on the AVMA web site, but the only place I've seen that is in the BVA's journal. And why were the rescuers of the human victims frequently so adamant that pets could not be rescued, even to the point where we heard that rescuers were shooting dogs they left behind?

The LSU site even includes a page where you can enter details of a pet you had to leave behind, and ask the veterinary team to try to find it. I wonder how easy they found it to gain access to the flooded area?

Rolfe.

PS. Dan, did your friends manage to rescue their pets?
 
Hi Rolfe,

As a matter of fact, there are quite a few animal welfare groups heavily involved in rescuing animals from the NO region. When I heard of the disaster, I gave money to 2 organizations, the American Red Cross and the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS). I gave more money to HSUS because I figured that far more people would give money to the Red Cross. I know if any disaster like this happened where I lived, it would break my heart to leave my pets to find for themselves and probably starve. If you are interested in the animal rescue work going on in the U.S., here are 2 good sites to look at:

Humane Society of the United States - http://www.hsus.org
Association to Prevent Cruelty to Animals - http://www.aspca.org
These two groups are coordinating many of the rescue and temporary shelter work by local animal shelters.
 
Who will take care of the pets?

Liz Soares is a freelance writer who writes for the Kennebec Journal:


Saturday, September 17, 2005

Who will take care of the pets?

After going without power for two days during the great ice storm of 1998, my husband and I snagged a room at a local motel.

There, we could shed our layers of wool and fleece and take hot showers -- before we returned home to sleep with the cats and dogs who were waiting for us in a cold, dark house.

I would have loved to have moved into the motel for the duration of the outage, enjoying a hot breakfast every morning and swimming in the pool every afternoon.

But that wasn't a choice.

I just couldn't leave my animals behind.

I'm not the only pet owner who, when tragedy unfolds, immediately thinks of the dogs, cats, guinea pigs and parakeets who aren't going to make it.

We can't avoid the thought, because we are naturally imagining what we would do. We think: "We'd run. With all the pets, of course."

But would we?

Could we?

http://kennebecjournal.mainetoday.com/news/local/1964658.shtml


Here's an article about seven dogs that were brought back to Maine from Louisiana:


Saturday, September 17, 2005

Shelter from the storm

By ELIZABETH CARR
Staff Writer

AUGUSTA -- After a three-day journey from Louisiana to Maine, seven dogs arrived Friday night at their new temporary home: The Kennebec Valley Humane Society Animal Shelter in Augusta.

The dogs were brought to Augusta by three Mainers who decided someone needed to take care of the dogs that were abandoned and overflowing animal shelters in the South.

For complete article, follow the link:

http://kennebecjournal.mainetoday.com/news/local/1969581.shtml
 
I live nowhere near New Orleans, however this situation really made me think about what I would do with my pets if something ever happened that forced me to evacuate my home. I only have one cat carrier, used mostly for taking my kitties to the vet on occasion. If I ever needed to flee my house, I think that will be a bit crowded with my six cats;) I'm buying five of the foldable cardboard ones this payday. I would really hate to have to leave any of my animals behind.

Now I just have to figure out what I would do with my big stupid dog who hates to go on car trips....
 
supercorgi said:
If you are interested in the animal rescue work going on in the U.S., here are 2 good sites to look at:

Humane Society of the United States - http://www.hsus.org
Association to Prevent Cruelty to Animals - http://www.aspca.org
These two groups are coordinating many of the rescue and temporary shelter work by local animal shelters.
Also Noah's Wish - http://www.noahswish.org/

I am currently getting some disaster-specific training (to go along with my current certifications and animal handling experience) to get on the volunteer lists of several of animal rescue organizations.
Rolfe said:
On the other hand, the stubborn determination of many people not to be parted from their pets will inevitably interfere with a rescue unless some provision is made.
Bingo! Here are some interesting snippets from FEMA's own Animals in Disaster manual:
Why should emergency management officials be concerned with animals in disasters? After all, they are responsible for the safety of humans, not animals. However, according to the American Veterinary Medical Association, 58.9 percent of all U.S. households own animals. For this reason, the care of animals in disasters is important to the care of humans.

[...]

Some people are more concerned for their animals in disasters than they are for themselves. This may impair their ability to make sensible decisions about their own safety and that of rescue workers...These behaviors are a major concern for emergency management personnel to whom saving human life is the highest priority. The new paradigm is that animals cannot be viewed simply as inanimate property.

[...]

Approximately 50 percent of all U.S. households own a pet. This implies that during large-scale disasters, pet ownership may affect the behavior of large segments of the population at risk.

[...]

Studies show that more than 60 percent of pet owners consider their pets to be very or extremely important to their families.

[...]

In disasters, some may use the way animals are cared for to measure the quality of human care provided by emergency management teams. While the care of animals in disasters should never take precedence over the care of people, providing care for animals may facilitate the personal safety and care of a large segment of the human population.

[...]

Plans that deal with animals are also important to emergency management officials because many rescue workers will encounter animals while working in disasters. During the response, rescue workers may be pleased to find animals, but become concerned about animal care as they return to their tasks. Thus, their rescue efforts may be delayed or compromised because of their concern for the well-being of animals.
For all pet owner who might be reading, I highly recommend Unit 7 of this course. This chapter deals with disaster preparedness, including developing an emergency plan and preparing "disaster kits" for each of your pets.
 
For pet owners, the very first step they should take in disaster preparation ought to be asking themselves "Why do I need a pet animal?"

OK, OK, I'll get me coat.....
 
sophia8 said:
For pet owners, the very first step they should take in disaster preparation ought to be asking themselves "Why do I need a pet animal?"

OK, OK, I'll get me coat.....

It's not a question of the need for an animal, it is that by owning a pet you have taken on certain responsibilities for the creature's welfare. You may as well ask why one spends perfectly good money taking the animal to a vet when it gets sick, after all the animal is not a necessity. If one isn't prepared to do one's utmost to keep a pet alive and in good health, and that includes removing it from danger as in a flood, then one shouldn't own a pet in the first place.
 
Nyarlathotep said:
It's not a question of the need for an animal, it is that by owning a pet you have taken on certain responsibilities for the creature's welfare. You may as well ask why one spends perfectly good money taking the animal to a vet when it gets sick, after all the animal is not a necessity. If one isn't prepared to do one's utmost to keep a pet alive and in good health, and that includes removing it from danger as in a flood, then one shouldn't own a pet in the first place.
Maybe we should start a new thread, then - "Why have a pet animal?" That is something I really, genuinely, have never been able to get.
 

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