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Pat Robertson predicts terror attack in US

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"I'm not necessarily saying it's going to be nuclear," he said during his news-and-talk television show "The 700 Club" on the Christian Broadcasting Network. "The Lord didn't say nuclear. But I do believe it will be something like that." Robertson said God told him during a recent prayer retreat that major cities and possibly millions of people will be affected by the attack, which should take place sometime after September.
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Robertson said God also told him that the U.S. only feigns friendship with Israel and that U.S. policies are pushing Israel toward "national suicide."
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Robertson said God also told him that the U.S. only feigns friendship with Israel and that U.S. policies are pushing Israel toward "national suicide."
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Am I the only one who is frightened by Pat Robertson's God sounding like a thirteen-year-old girl?
 
When a leading religious figure says God actually talks directly to him, I worry. I worry a lot.

Did any reporter think to ask him, "What does God sound like?"

Hubris. It's one thing to claim one knows God's Will, but quite another to say God actually talks to one. That's some serious crap right there.
 
My recollection may be faulty, but I'm pretty sure the Bible says you will know the false prophets by their failed predictions. Those to whom God speaks are always 100% dead on balls accurate.
 
"The Lord didn't say nuclear. But I do believe it will be something like that." Robertson said God told him...
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Perhaps It said "unclear" or maybe even "nukular"?

Were there animals nearby? I remember a Nat. Lampoon cartoon where god's voice is saying to Moses who oddly has a duck on his shoulder: "I was talking to the duck!"
 
So he's fitting doomsday prophecies in between squatting transport trucks?
 
Pat Robertson certainly meets one of my qualifications for something being a terror attack!!.
 
Luke T. said:
My recollection may be faulty, but I'm pretty sure the Bible says you will know the false prophets by their failed predictions. Those to whom God speaks are always 100% dead on balls accurate.
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Uh huh.

In 2005, Robertson predicted that Bush would have victory after victory in his second term. He said Social Security reform proposals would be approved and Bush would nominate conservative judges to federal courts.

Lawmakers confirmed Bush's 2005 nominations of John Roberts and Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court. But the president's Social Security initiative was stalled.

"I have a relatively good track record," he said. "Sometimes I miss."

In May, Robertson said God told him that storms and possibly a tsunami were to crash into America's coastline in 2006.

Even though the U.S. was not hit with a tsunami, Robertson on Tuesday cited last spring's heavy rains and flooding in New England as partly fulfilling the prediction.
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Luke T. said:
My recollection may be faulty, but I'm pretty sure the Bible says you will know the false prophets by their failed predictions. Those to whom God speaks are always 100% dead on balls accurate.
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The Bible says a lot of things. They try not to get too wrapped up in the details of the book they claim is the literal word of their god.
 
This is what the Lord Almighty says: "Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord.

JER 23:16
 
This one really nails it:

The visions of your prophets were false and worthless; they did not expose your sin to ward off your captivity. The oracles they gave you were false and misleading.

LA 2:14

[The land's]prophets whitewash these deeds for them by false visions and lying divinations. They say, 'This is what the Sovereign Lord says'--when the Lord has not spoken.

EZE 22:28

I'd say ol' Pat is screwed at the hands of the Lord...

"So I will pour out my wrath on them and consume them with my fiery anger, bringing down on their own heads all they have done, declares the Sovereign Lord."
 
I just can't accept that everyone of his followers and admirers is stupid and therefore can't understand why he is (seemingly) always wrong.

How does he get people to suspend their disbelief in him?
 
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I just can't accept that everyone of his followers and admirers is stupid and therefore can't understand why he is (seemingly) always wrong.

How does he get people to suspend their disbelief in him?
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Damn it, now this is really going to bug me. How does that work?

Perhaps he's able to parlay some of the things into "hits" for his followers? Perhaps he provides some other kind of emotional fulfillment that makes his actual performance/status as a false prophet irrelevant to those that follow him.

By definition, his "followers" are those willing enough to put up with his crap in exchange for whatever benefits they receive from him.
 
I had a delicate conversation with one of his followers. Being that she was an elderly relative, I was not going to interrogate her, but her answers were:

She sent him money because he'd done so much good. I should emphasize this, so (pause) much (pause) GOOD! hands parted outward at the palms, like holding a basketball. His failures (which she dismissed with a wave of her hand) were lapses in either his personal judgment or were the influence of "the world" (her word for evil, I guess). There was clear devotion in her voice as she watched him. I don't think she was actually listening, though. It was almost meditative to her, watching him babble on about how they were all off to some African nation to do some big whatnot revival. I'm convinced she couldn't have told you what he was talking about at all during the program. Whatever charisma he has, it works. She'd cut him a check every month or two.
 
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Luke T. said:
My recollection may be faulty, but I'm pretty sure the Bible says you will know the false prophets by their failed predictions.
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Yes, it does, quite specifically.

Deuteronomy 18:21-22:
You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD ?" If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him. [NIV]
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It's very simple: if what he predicted comes true, then the Lord had spoken. If it didn't happen, then the Lord had not spoken.

And I might add that the Bible also gives some ferocious punishments for false prophets. Look at verse 20:
But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death."
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That's not some vague prophetic promise that at some pie-in-the-sky point in the future, God will swoop down and make everything right and punish them--those are very specific instructions to the Children of Israel that anyone caught wasting the people's time with false predictions should be immediately hustled out to the waste ground and stoned to death.

Pat should consider himself lucky that he isn't living with people who still take the Old Testament literally.

...Oh, wait...

:rolleyes:
 
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From Orthodox Jews, I’ve had the following:

If you predict something bad and it doesn’t come to pass, you’re safe because enough people must have counteracted it with good (prayer, following the commandments, etc.).

If you predict something good and it doesn’t come to pass, you’re screwed.

Hence, most prophets of the OT predicted bad.
 
Ryan O'Dine said:
From Orthodox Jews, I’ve had the following:

If you predict something bad and it doesn’t come to pass, you’re safe because enough people must have counteracted it with good (prayer, following the commandments, etc.).

If you predict something good and it doesn’t come to pass, you’re screwed.

Hence, most prophets of the OT predicted bad.
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That is why I quoted the passage from Lamentations. Prophecies are supposed to point out the listeners' sins and the corrective action. How does Pat's prediction serve as an "expose your sin to ward off your captivity" prophecy?

It doesn't.
 
I guess if NYC is nuked, then Pat will say it is because it is (was?) a den of iniquity.
 
Luke T. said:
When a leading religious figure says God actually talks directly to him, I worry. I worry a lot.
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Isn't that what religious figures do? What worries me more is if political leaders start talking that way.
 
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