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Obama's Wars

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Last night I read the front-page Washington Post story on Bob Woodward’s new book, Obama’s Wars. … snip … The revelations about Obama’s naive views on terrorism and his lack of a firm commitment to the Afghan War was nothing really new, they simply confirmed many of the worst fears about our President and the War on Terror. … snip …


The book details how Obama is not trying to win the war as much as he was desperately trying to placate his progressive base, regardless of the safety of American citizens.

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Obama's Wars, covers last fall's agonizingly slow Afghanistan strategy review last fall. One of the reasons for the snail-like pace for developing a plan was Obama seemed more interested in mapping out an exit plan than winning the war. … snip ...

According to Woodward's meeting-by-meeting, memo-by-memo account of the 2009 Afghan strategy review, the president avoided talk of victory as he described his objectives.

The book reports that the recommendations of the Military were dismissed.

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Forget everything else you may read about this book, about the infighting and name-calling going on in the administration that happens in every administration. You need to remember just one thing; instead of caring how to win the war in Afghanistan, and how to protect the homeland, the first priority of this President was to appease his party. … snip …

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By ignoring the needs of the Military Obama is sacrificing crucial U.S. national security interests and leaving the American people more vulnerable to future terrorist attacks. An early exit from Afghanistan would shore up al-Qaeda and like-minded terrorists and once again provide them with a safe-haven from which to conduct their deadly attacks against the U.S. and other nations. But Bob Woodward's book reports that is not the priority of this President, only support from his party is important. And that is a very frightening situation.
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I suggest Mr "we can absorb a terrorist attack" is still Stuck On Stupid. :D

And so is CBS:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20017327-503544.html

Bob Woodward Potrayal of Obama Pleases White House
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:D
 
Can you clarify that, joobz? Are you just reiterating that Obama seems to be Stuck On Stupid, or calling me stupid? Now be careful how you answer. :D
 
BeAChooser said:
I suggest Mr "we can absorb a terrorist attack" is still Stuck On Stupid.
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As oposed to the President who knowingly lied to the American people and the UN and then went to war with a country that didn't attack us. If you have one, BAC, push your "perspective" button.
 
BeAChooser said:
...The book details how Obama is not trying to win the war...

...Obama seemed more interested in mapping out an exit plan than winning the war.

...instead of caring how to win the war in Afghanistan...
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Tell me again how to "win the war" that isn't a conventional war, and therefore can't be won.

And for extra credit:
...An early exit from Afghanistan would...
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Please explain how years and years can be described as an "early" exit.
 
No WMD in Iraq made the Bush Era war the biggest fiasco of the last 50 years.
It's the uncomfortable truth that many have a hard time to deal with. So instead of actually discussing reality, we see claims of Obama being ...well like things in the OP.
 
Loss Leader said:
As oposed to the President who knowingly lied to the American people and the UN and then went to war with a country that didn't attack us. If you have one, BAC, push your "perspective" button.
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A drunk was crawling about on the sidewalk under a lamppost at night.

A Police Officer came up to him and inquired, "What are you doing?"

The drunk replied, "I'm looking for my car keys."

The Officer looked around in the lamplight, then asked the drunk, "I don't see any car keys. Are you sure you lost them here?"

The drunk replied, "No, I lost them over there", and pointed to an area of the sidewalk deep in shadow.

The policeman then asked, "Well, if you lost them over there, why are you looking over here?"

The drunk looked at him and said, "Because the light is better over here."
 
BenBurch said:
BTW, Obama having a small force killing key Taliban one at a time sounds like a great plan. If we had done this 8 years ago, we might be all done with them by now.
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Not likely. Assassination is rarely a viable strategy. It tends to recruit from those who admired the the one killed and create sympathy for their cause. You can't really scare people who aren't afraid of dying.
 
BenBurch said:
BTW, Obama having a small force killing key Taliban one at a time sounds like a great plan. If we had done this 8 years ago, we might be all done with them by now.
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Tricky said:
Not likely. Assassination is rarely a viable strategy. It tends to recruit from those who admired the the one killed and create sympathy for their cause. You can't really scare people who aren't afraid of dying.
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I think it's the highly targeted aspect that makes it a better plan. Fewer casualties among civilians and bystanders and less damage to their infrastructure helps keep the population as a whole from becoming radicalized against an "occupying" army.

Assassination, however, is usually stupid for the reasons you assert.
 
Loss Leader said:
As oposed to the President who knowingly lied to the American people and the UN and then went to war with a country that didn't attack us. If you have one, BAC, push your "perspective" button.
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You mean the war Democrats supported?


Senate Democrats went on record Tuesday to support the war in Iraq and the continued operation of the US concentration camp at Guantánamo Bay. A large majority of the 44 Senate Democrats lined up with the Republican majority and the Bush administration in key amendments to the defense appropriations bill. The Senate session culminated in a bipartisan 98-0 vote to approve the nearly $500 billion budget for the Pentagon.

In the two most critical votes, the Democrats gave their support by a 37 to 6 margin to a Republican amendment tacitly supporting the Bush administration’s policy on the Iraq war; and then voted 30-13 for a Republican amendment explicitly endorsing the use of military tribunals at Guantánamo Bay.
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http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/nov2005/sena-n16.shtml






"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored away secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.



More comments can be found here:

http://www.reasons-for-war-with-iraq.info/
 
Like the economy, Afghanistan was going just fine before Obama took over. Barry takes orders from bureaucrats instead of listening to the military (which is NOT run by bureaucrats).

BAC:
"I suggest Mr "we can absorb a terrorist attack" is still Stuck On Stupid"
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Hear, hear! We should elect you. Remember when Kerry wanted terrorism to go back to being a "nuisance"? America wisely re-elected Bush, who took a strong view rather than a naive one. When asked what he'd do about terrorism, President Bush said "defeat it." It's suicidal to think America is strong enough to sustain another attack. The patriots who really love our country -- but refuse to live in the unamerican metropolitan targeted -- would be forced to overthrow the Kenyan born poser in office. I'm sure the libtard media would have a field day spinning that one. Good thing some of us are too smart to fall for it.
 
Loss Leader said:
As oposed to the President who knowingly lied to the American people and the UN and then went to war with a country that didn't attack us. If you have one, BAC, push your "perspective" button.
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Actually it's never been proven Bush knowingly lied and Saddam did attack the US and British jets enforcing the no-fly and no-drive zones. He also tried to assassinate the former president.
 
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