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"Nice job, Brownie."

Jeff Corey

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The possibilities are endless. WTF did our unelected lieder mean by that?
Nice job on allowing all those people who dint vote for me to die.
 
Jeff Corey said:
The possibilities are endless. WTF did our unelected lieder mean by that?
Nice job on allowing all those people who dint vote for me to die.

The Gulf coast is chuck full of red states. They did vote for GW. Ok maybe not NewOrleans, but the rest of the area did.
 
Actually, he said "Heck of a job" (sometimes transcribed as "Heckuva job" to lend it more Texan flavor).

I agree, it's difficult to parse these words of praise in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, but some have given it a shot:

Kate Hale, former Miami-Dade emergency management chief gets the snarky comment of the year award for this one: "He's done a hell of a job, because I'm not aware of any Arabian horses being killed in this storm."

I also heard one Bush apologist make the outrageous claim that Bush was being sarcastic when he said it.
 
Jeff Corey said:
The possibilities are endless. WTF did our unelected lieder mean by that?
Two options come to mind. 1.) At the time he believed that he had done a good job. He could have dismissed early criticism as partisan and unfair. 2.) He could have thought the job not as bungled as it was and sought to spin the good.

Nice job on allowing all those people who dint vote for me to die.
Insulting and presumptuous. This was a complex problem. There were many who screwed up most notably the local leaders who couldn't even enact their own emergency plan. The Feds screwed up. That is clear. I don't know the entire story. As it looks now Brown shouldn't have even had the job. I think Bush deserves criticism for that. But the notion that anyone "allowed" people to die is disgusting and unwarranted and certainly has no place on a skeptics forum.
 
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RandFan said:
Two options come to mind. 1.) At the time he believed that he had done a good job. He could have dismissed early criticism as partisan and unfair. 2.) He could have thought the job not as bungled as it was and sought to spin the good.
3) As a manager he believes in public praise, private criticism. Even at a "gentleman's C" joint like Harvard you can't miss every class. ;)
 
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RandFan said:
Two options come to mind. 1.) At the time he believed that he had done a good job. He could have dismissed early criticism as partisan and unfair. 2.) He could have thought the job not as bungled as it was and sought to spin the good.

The first option does not jibe with the accusation from Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). AP story

She related that she had urged Bush at the White House on Tuesday (September 6) to fire Michael Brown.

"He said 'Why would I do that?'" Pelosi said.

"'I said because of all that went wrong, of all that didn't go right last week.' And he said 'What didn't go right?'"
 
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Ladewig said:
The first option does not jibe with the accusation from Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). AP story

Oh, that's just "he said, she lied" liberal media bullsh!t. What a bunch of Bush Bashers all of you are! I've heard enough about all those black people who got killed in the hurricane because of the government's ineptitude, so let's instead focus on the central issue at hand: permanetly abolishing the death tax.
 
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Ladewig said:
The first option does not jibe with the accusation from Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). AP story
I'm sorry, I don't get how it doesn't jibe?

ETA: The statement seems to support #1.
 
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Cain said:
Oh, that's just "he said, she lied" liberal media bullsh!t. What a bunch of Bush Bashers all of you are! I've heard enough about all those black people who got killed in the hurricane because of the government's ineptitude, so let's instead focus on the central issue at hand: permanetly abolishing the death tax.
Straw man. Who made this argument? For the record I have been very critical of Bush et al. Brown should not have gotten the job. The Feds failed. But there is no evidence that this had anything to do with the color of anyone's skin. If you have evidence that policy or action was dictated based upon skin color then please cite it and I will be on your side calling Bush a racist and condemning such actions?
 
I'll retain the suspicion that if New Orleans was a swing district in a swing state a month before a presidential election the federal response would have been a mite bit better done than in the present circumstances... Be the residents white, black or candy striped... rich or poor, Christian or Satanist.....

Call me crazy.... Just one of my silly hunches...
 
But there is no evidence that this had anything to do with the color of anyone's skin. If you have evidence that policy or action was dictated based upon skin color then please cite it and I will be on your side calling Bush a racist and condemning such actions?

If 30,000 white cheerleaders were stranded in the same predicament do you seriously think they would have had to wait as long for rescue as the black single Moms did?
 
This is not satire...

RandFan said:
Straw man.... If you have evidence...

Here we go again where you attempt to speak the lingua franca of Reason and fail miserably in application. Your posts are a homogenous blur of the same hollow words over and over and over again. "Straw man... show me your evidence... this is a Skeptic's forum!... I sometimes praise Clinton and often criticize Bush... blah blah blah."
 
Jeff Corey said:
The possibilities are endless. WTF did our unelected lieder mean by that?
Nice job on allowing all those people who dint vote for me to die.

I heard that said by President Bush, who was elected to his second term back in November of 2003.

Who else said it that was unelected?
 
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Cain said:
Here we go again where you attempt to speak the lingua franca of Reason and fail miserably in application. Your posts are a homogenous blur of the same hollow words over and over and over again. "Straw man... show me your evidence... this is a Skeptic's forum!... I sometimes praise Clinton and often criticize Bush... blah blah blah."
 
zakur said:
Actually, he said "Heck of a job" (sometimes transcribed as "Heckuva job" to lend it more Texan flavor).

I agree, it's difficult to parse these words of praise in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, but some have given it a shot:

Kate Hale, former Miami-Dade emergency management chief gets the snarky comment of the year award for this one: "He's done a hell of a job, because I'm not aware of any Arabian horses being killed in this storm."

I also heard one Bush apologist make the outrageous claim that Bush was being sarcastic when he said it.

I have Bush, but when I heard that I assumed it was the typical business etiquette where you say nice things about the guy being fired no matter why he's being fired.

I've seen it happen in my line of work. A guy gets fired because he was caught falsifying w-2's to qualify people for loans they shouldn't qualify for, but he still gets the cake and ice cream send off with the nice speech from the boss about his "contribution" and how he's going to "seek other opportunities."

Why? Because someone thinks the proles might be fooled if you go through the motions. There might be someone yet who doesn't know about the scandal, and they want that someone to repeat the good version of the story, if they talk about it.

And there is always the possibility he won't go to jail for his crime and you don't want him to come back and sue you.
 
Originally posted by RandFan
That is clear. I don't know the entire story. As it looks now Brown shouldn't have even had the job. I think Bush deserves criticism for that. But the notion that anyone "allowed" people to die is disgusting and unwarranted and certainly has no place on a skeptics forum.

Good point.

That's just pure irrational hatred. Disagree with the man's politics, as I do, but accusing him of murdering people just because they're not the demographic that voted for him is way over the top.
 
duggie said:
If 30,000 white cheerleaders were stranded in the same predicament do you seriously think they would have had to wait as long for rescue as the black single Moms did?

If you make them all young and nubile that changes everything, but it still doesn't make it racial. p:
 
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Cain said:
Here we go again where you attempt to speak the lingua franca of Reason and fail miserably in application. Your posts are a homogenous blur of the same hollow words over and over and over again. "Straw man... show me your evidence... this is a Skeptic's forum!... I sometimes praise Clinton and often criticize Bush... blah blah blah."
:rolleyes:

So, you can't defend your argument and instead you personalize your post and make your argument about me.

So I guess your evidence won't be forth coming? No rebuttal that your argument wasn't a straw man?
 
Oh, that's just "he said, she lied" liberal media bullsh!t.

Well, when the source is Ms. Pelosi in particular, it is; her view of Bush has about as much credibility as, say, Michael Moore's.
 
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Cain said:
Here we go again where you attempt to speak the lingua franca of Reason and fail miserably in application. Your posts are a homogenous blur of the same hollow words over and over and over again. "Straw man... show me your evidence... this is a Skeptic's forum!... I sometimes praise Clinton and often criticize Bush... blah blah blah."

What I've never understood is how such a misanthrope can be drawn to the study of philosophy?
 

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