Mystic mushrooms spawn magic event

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Indeed, this is the title of this story...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/07/10/psychedelic.research.ap/index.html

It's irritating that they would use these terms, but I imagine it's just to get readers... it caught my attention...

My curiosity is if stories of this nature may have people trying mushrooms, or fostering a belief in "mysticism".

Is a story like this appropriate for a major news outlet? I read more bizarre stories every day, but this one just made me think about the cause/effect aspect.

Interesting read, at the very least.

Good Day Everyone,

Axe
 
Dangerous stuff. I hope they tread carefully with it. The same things as referered were said about LSD, way back. But it turned out there were nasty long-term effects.

I don't know it it will inspire some. I suppose only those who will be inspired anyway.

Hans
 
I remember some woo once trying to tell me that Leary's experiments with LSD showed that recidivism among released prisoners could be significantly reduced by controlled use of the drug. I did some digging and found it was mostly rubbish. This reminds me of that.

"Almost a third of the research participants found the drug experience frightening even in the very controlled setting. That suggests people experimenting with the illicit drug on their own could be harmed, Griffiths said."

What does that even mean? How does it follow that 'being frightened' = harm?

"Each visit lasted eight hours. The volunteers lay on a couch in a living-room-like setting, wearing an eye mask and listening to classical music. They were encouraged to focus their attention inward."

Man, if I tried that during a shroom trip, I'd go nuts. I could never stay still on a couch for hours. Maybe during the introspective phase, but certainly not the whole time...and classical music? For eight hours?

"Two months later, 24 of the participants filled out a questionnaire. Two-thirds called their reaction to psilocybin one of the five top most meaningful experiences of their lives. On another measure, one-third called it the most spiritually significant experience of their lives, with another 40 percent ranking it in the top five."

Then they need to get out more. Sure, it is fun and seems awesome at the time...
 
DreadNiK said:
Then they need to get out more. Sure, it is fun and seems awesome at the time...
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That's what I was thinking: the subjects seem painfully naive. I was reminded of that stock movie scene where the strait-laced, uptight guy is given his first drink or bong hit and is seen later dancing naked or expounding his new-found one-ness with the universe.
 
Axenos said:
Indeed, this is the title of this story...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/07/10/psychedelic.research.ap/index.html

It's irritating that they would use these terms, but I imagine it's just to get readers... it caught my attention...

My curiosity is if stories of this nature may have people trying mushrooms, or fostering a belief in "mysticism".

Is a story like this appropriate for a major news outlet? I read more bizarre stories every day, but this one just made me think about the cause/effect aspect.

Interesting read, at the very least.

Good Day Everyone,

Axe
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In Yosimite Valley, on the monolith known as "El Capitan", there is a climbing route, put up in the late 1960's/early 1970's that is known as "The Magic Mushroom"
It is like 5 days of very difficult climbing, and ther report (I am quoting "Roper's Guide to Yosimite" from memory here), the 2 guys that first did it (and thus named it), couldn't actually remember the route...
'taint nothing new under the sun....
 
Gosh you hate to sound all Tim Leary here but...

Mushrooms are Great!!!

Everytime you take them...acid is more eye candy, but shrooms hit you somewhere deep in the back, and you just FEEL. It just comes.

Tips for doing mushrooms the first time.
1) It is not you, it is the drug
2) The trip will end, and you will be the same person in the morning...
3) Do NOT go out in a public place with many strangers...gaurenteed that will seem 'stranger' than you expect...
4) Eat a lot the first time...Go balls to the wall with it, then judge yourself inbetween, but the first time definetaly go all out.
5) Set aside a good 8 hours to do it, and expect to be tired the next day.
6) Let go...Put yourself in a nice setting, and if you feel like doing something (harmless), do it.

Have fun.
 
No thanks, Overman, reality is much more interesting with my feet planted firmly on the ground.

I've never been one for the drug scene... I've tried pretty much all of them, but that was many years ago and truthfully I never enjoyed it much...

I suppose I have a need to be in control of myself at all times that overrides any desire to shroom out...

Although I will drink a few beers on the weekend... ;)

Regards,

Axe
 
Overman said:
Gosh you hate to sound all Tim Leary here but...

Mushrooms are Great!!!

Everytime you take them...acid is more eye candy, but shrooms hit you somewhere deep in the back, and you just FEEL. It just comes.

Tips for doing mushrooms the first time.
1) It is not you, it is the drug
2) The trip will end, and you will be the same person in the morning...
3) Do NOT go out in a public place with many strangers...gaurenteed that will seem 'stranger' than you expect...
4) Eat a lot the first time...Go balls to the wall with it, then judge yourself inbetween, but the first time definetaly go all out.
5) Set aside a good 8 hours to do it, and expect to be tired the next day.
6) Let go...Put yourself in a nice setting, and if you feel like doing something (harmless), do it.

Have fun.
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I disagree with point 4. I would add:

7) You might think it has finished, but you'd probably be wrong several times.
8) Be with friends, and all do the same amount at the same time.
9) Have some marijuana (purely optional)
 
Nothing particularly new. There's a book, from the 70's I think, titled The Mushroom and the Cross or maybe it was the Tree and the Cross. Sorry I can't be more precise, been a while. Anyway, it purports that early Christians were a Dionysiac cult using, guess what, to contact god.
You can also find such uses of various drugs throughout history, such as, the Hopi use of peyote and the ingredients of "witch balm" which generally include ergot.
 
Salvia Divinorum is an interesting and legal hallucinogen for connoisseurs.

Like most things hippie, it comes with enough woo to raise Atlantis but it is a very different experience from either LSD or mushrooms.
 
MRC_Hans said:
Dangerous stuff. I hope they tread carefully with it. The same things as referered were said about LSD, way back. But it turned out there were nasty long-term effects.

I don't know it it will inspire some. I suppose only those who will be inspired anyway.

Hans
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Hi, What nasty long term effects are those, there is lttle evidence that LSD exposure causes problems in healthy individuals, those with mental illness it doesn't help. Most people who have fash backs used DMT or STP, which caused the problem with flashbacks, but if you have some research lets hear it by all means.

Now I am not saying that chronic use or heavy use is good for people , but there was a lot of government proganda generated that was false about LSD.

As a point of fact i would not recommend that anyone use LSD, it causes a short term psychosis, can induce panic and anxiety and can be disorienting, usualy people recover within twenty four hours. But they can definitly be distressed by it's use.
 
Mushrooms are extremely funny. The brass-knuckled absurdity of life tended to repeatedly smash me round the face when I was on the things. The only defense was to laugh. And laugh. And laugh.

I disagree with overman's point 3. Strangers are great - so long as you have friends to experience them with.

The second (and last) time I did them was in a crowded country pub in Cornwall. All was proceeding perfectly normally (hysterical laughter) until I saw my friend (whose first time it was) backed against the wall, looking around him with a "something'snotquiterightIcan'tplaceitexactlybutsomething'soutofsorts" expression on his face. Then, his expression morphing to the pleased fascination of a zoologist in the field, he would intently observe a random person walking to, say, the bathroom. Then back to the "can'tcomprehendwhatisdifferentaboutthisevening" expression. All from his position of backed right up against the wall.

I asked him if he was ok.

"Hmm? Oh, yes, yes. Yesyes. Mmmm."

"Good - you sure?"

"Yes. Absolutely. Fine."

"OK."

"There is... one thing I'm confused about though."

"Yeah? What's that?"

"Well... it's the... hmmm. I was wondering. You see those penguins over there, drinking cider? I was just wondering why no-one... never mind."
 
Seems to me that the only people sure that psychedelics cause all kinds of permanent psychological damage are those who never did any. Really guys, you won't think you're an orange or try to fly off a roof. Everything in moderation, of course.

Badgers on mushrooms. :D
 
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