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My Haunted house and ghost theory put to the test

Cainkane1

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Here in Conyers where I live there is an alleged haunted house. It was built in the late 18th century and it is very large. It is two stories high but the very large attic might as well a third story. It is often unoccupied and almost all of the people which have had offices there or a Antique or restaurant there have reported spectral activity with one women allegedly seeing a ghost that unnerved her so much she was briefly hospitalized.

Ok I have a Jewish friend who not only does not believe in ghosts he pooh poohs the very idea. I agree with him but I do have my theory. A large enclosed area in mankinds developemental stages were rare and always occupied. I believe humans as a survival mechanism have been genetically wired to subconsciencly believe such an area is occupied either by animals or humans.

Ok the house becomes unoccupied and I see an open door. I call my skeptical Jewish friend to explore this large spooky old house.

Exploring around the lower floor no spectre appeared. Going up the stairs was another matter. The steps creaked all the way up.

Ok reaching the top floor we looked around seeing nothing. Them a door slammed hard. It scared the both of us. Going to the door no one was there but I attributed the event to an air current mixed with a slight slant of the floor. I was going to say something when the stairs started creaking. Thinking someone was coming up the stairs I was a bit scared but not because of a ghost I thought the owner of the house might not like us being there. No one was on the stairs. I think what happened was the step we walked on were pushed down by our feet and they were creaking back up again.

Milton S my Jewish companion was getting unnerved. He balked at going to the attic.

Its all psychological. Big enclosed places are supposed to be inhabited. To be in a house this large where no one occupies did not used to happen. We people such places with our minds.

A Mexican law firm now occupies every nook and cranny of this house and no reports of ghosts.
 
I see barely a ghost of a hypothesis, and no testing at all.

Also, this anecdote had way more backstory than was actually necessary to describe a hypothesis and a test.

Also, this anecdote was weirdly racial.
 
You have a Jewish friend named Milton?

That seems a bit on the nose.
 
Slightly Weird

I agree that OP has weird racial elements to it... what does the friend being Jewish or the law firm being Mexican have anything to do with the experiment? Secondly, as to the hypothesis - if humans are genetically hard wired to believe large enclosed spaces are to be occupied which then accounts for a psychological effect of believing random sounds in unoccupied spaces are the result of a paranormal element, what accounts for haunted bridges or spooky woods or other unenclosed spaces?
 
I see barely a ghost of a hypothesis, and no testing at all.

Also, this anecdote had way more backstory than was actually necessary to describe a hypothesis and a test.

Also, this anecdote was weirdly racial.
For your information Milton S is a lifelong friend and mentor. I would not trade him for anyone of any description. Milton is well educated and is a very down to earth person who thinks even a slight belief in spooks is silly and immature. I'm sorry you disliked my story. I wanted to present an example of my theory on the belief in ghosts and if my embellishment and story telling offends you then please accept my apologies.
 
Might have been a ghost, based on the provided evidence.

Also, not even a ghost can tolerate being in the presence of a group of lawyers. So, no surprise on that front.
 
I agree that OP has weird racial elements to it... what does the friend being Jewish or the law firm being Mexican have anything to do with the experiment? Secondly, as to the hypothesis - if humans are genetically hard wired to believe large enclosed spaces are to be occupied which then accounts for a psychological effect of believing random sounds in unoccupied spaces are the result of a paranormal element, what accounts for haunted bridges or spooky woods or other unenclosed spaces?
Actually Bridges are kind of enclosed places. People commit suicide by jumping off of bridges and the space under a bridge has a covering aka the bridge itself. Not enclosed but there is a roof of sorts. As for haunted woods here again woods are kind of enclosed by a tree canopy and forests have plenty of places where things aren't visible. Hence they tend to be spooky.
 
For your information Milton S is a lifelong friend and mentor. I would not trade him for anyone of any description. Milton is well educated and is a very down to earth person who thinks even a slight belief in spooks is silly and immature.
Okay, okay, I get it. One of your best friends is Jewish.

I'm sorry you disliked my story. I wanted to present an example of my theory on the belief in ghosts and if my embellishment and story telling offends you then please accept my apologies.
Skeptical inquiry is not really a good place for embellished storytelling. You need to make up your mind about whether you're describing an experimental setup or posting a diary entry.
 
I agree that OP has weird racial elements to it... what does the friend being Jewish or the law firm being Mexican have anything to do with the experiment? Secondly, as to the hypothesis - if humans are genetically hard wired to believe large enclosed spaces are to be occupied which then accounts for a psychological effect of believing random sounds in unoccupied spaces are the result of a paranormal element, what accounts for haunted bridges or spooky woods or other unenclosed spaces?
Jews as far as I know not only do not believe in ghosts but think people who do are foolish. Nothing racial about it. Miltons a friend who is Jewish. Whats the problem? As for the Mexican law office being in the building now ghosts are part of Mexican culture. Mexicans do not like ghosts hence it surprises me that Mexicans now occupy the building which is allegedly haunted.
 
I feel like you glossed over the race of the alleged ghosts? On a scale from Casper to Dementor, how ethnic we talking, here?
 
Jews as far as I know not only do not believe in ghosts but think people who do are foolish. Nothing racial about it. Miltons a friend who is Jewish. Whats the problem? As for the Mexican law office being in the building now ghosts are part of Mexican culture. Mexicans do not like ghosts hence it surprises me that Mexicans now occupy the building which is allegedly haunted.

Dude, this is entirely racial. You're literally using different racial/ethnic stereotypes as benchmarks for superstitious reasoning. It doesn't really get more racial than, "Mexicans do not like ghosts hence it surprises me that Mexicans now occupy the building which is allegedly haunted."
 
Dude, this is entirely racial. You're literally using different racial/ethnic stereotypes as benchmarks for superstitious reasoning. It doesn't really get more racial than, "Mexicans do not like ghosts hence it surprises me that Mexicans now occupy the building which is allegedly haunted."

Typical. Looking for any small reason to discredit the research.
 
Dude, this is entirely racial. You're literally using different racial/ethnic stereotypes as benchmarks for superstitious reasoning. It doesn't really get more racial than, "Mexicans do not like ghosts hence it surprises me that Mexicans now occupy the building which is allegedly haunted."

Hey man, this is not racial. He already said that if the ghosts existed, they'd be proper caucasian ones.

I wonder if those wetback lawyers brought their own Holey Frijole ghosts? You know those hard pipe-hittin spirit hombres would properly tune a pasty cracker ghost's ass. Just sayin.
 
Here in Conyers where I live there is an alleged haunted house. It was built in the late 18th century and it is very large. It is two stories high but the very large attic might as well a third story. It is often unoccupied and almost all of the people which have had offices there or a Antique or restaurant there have reported spectral activity with one women allegedly seeing a ghost that unnerved her so much she was briefly hospitalized.

Ok I have a Jewish friend who not only does not believe in ghosts he pooh poohs the very idea. I agree with him but I do have my theory. A large enclosed area in mankinds developemental stages were rare and always occupied. I believe humans as a survival mechanism have been genetically wired to subconsciencly believe such an area is occupied either by animals or humans.

Ok the house becomes unoccupied and I see an open door. I call my skeptical Jewish friend to explore this large spooky old house.

Exploring around the lower floor no spectre appeared. Going up the stairs was another matter. The steps creaked all the way up.

Ok reaching the top floor we looked around seeing nothing. Them a door slammed hard. It scared the both of us. Going to the door no one was there but I attributed the event to an air current mixed with a slight slant of the floor. I was going to say something when the stairs started creaking. Thinking someone was coming up the stairs I was a bit scared but not because of a ghost I thought the owner of the house might not like us being there. No one was on the stairs. I think what happened was the step we walked on were pushed down by our feet and they were creaking back up again.

Milton S my Jewish companion was getting unnerved. He balked at going to the attic.

Its all psychological. Big enclosed places are supposed to be inhabited. To be in a house this large where no one occupies did not used to happen. We people such places with our minds.

A Mexican law firm now occupies every nook and cranny of this house and no reports of ghosts.

Did you mean Thesis put to the test?

To sum it up, you psyched yourselves out. Yes, this is why people report ghosts in old buildings and old empty buildings.
 

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