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Michael Moore's new movie "Farenheit 9-11"

Questioninggeller

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Michael Moore just signed a deal for his next movie:

MORE MICHAEL MOORE COURTESY OF MIRAMAX: Filmmaker’s new documentary sure to be controversial.

(May. 16, 2003) *”Bowling for Columbine” filmmaker Michael Moore has just signed a deal with Miramax for the release of his next documentary, “Farenheit 911.”
The film will reportedly show connections between the Bush families and Osama Bin Laden’s family.

According to the New York Post, the documentary was originally at Mel Gibson’s Icon Productions in a deal signed by Gibson’s partner, Bruce Davey. But Gibson withdrew from the deal when he found out saying he wanted no part of it because of the potential for controversy.

And that's exactly what's happened. A conservative group is threatening a boycott of all Walt Disney products and services. That's because Miramax is owned by Disney. The irony is that the company's founder, Walt Disney, was an arch conservative

http://www.eurweb.com/articles/headlines/05162003/headlines989205162003.cfm

Now before anyone replies to this post with ad hominems or comments on "Bowling For Colmbine," read the article and notice it's an announce. And also keep in mind the Bin Laden family did not make their money selling sand in the Saudi region in the 1960's and 1970's.
 
Questioninggeller said:
And also keep in mind the Bin Laden family did not make their money selling sand in the Saudi region in the 1960's and 1970's.

In what business did they make their money, and how is it relevant?
 
aerocontrols said:


In what business did they make their money, and how is it relevant?

Originally oil, and it is relevant because the Bin Laden family make much of their money in those decades selling oil to U.S. companies, amoung them waas the Bush's.
 
Questioninggeller said:


Originally oil, and it is relevant because the Bin Laden family make much of their money in those decades selling oil to U.S. companies, amoung them waas the Bush's.

When was the Bin Laden family in oil? I thought their family business was construction.

How much oil did the Bin Laden family sell to the Bush family oil business?

MattJ
 
aerocontrols said:


When was the Bin Laden family in oil? I thought their family business was construction.

How much oil did the Bin Laden family sell to the Bush family oil business?

MattJ

It was construction, but Saudi's that get rich are assumed to get rich via oil.

There has been no confirmed evidence that the bin Laden family sold oil to the Bush family or anyone else. The had contracts for infrastructure projects all over the middle east. and rebuilding mosques.

http://www.teachervision.com/lesson-plans/lesson-6831.html
 
PygmyPlaidGiraffe said:


It was construction, but Saudi's that get reach are assumed to get rich via oil.

I was just bringing him back to his original claim:

Questioninggeller said:
And also keep in mind the Bin Laden family did not make their money selling sand in the Saudi region in the 1960's and 1970's.

In fact, since they were running a construction company in Saudi Arabia, (where much of the native sand is too fine to be used in construction) buying & selling sand is a very good partial description of how the Bin Laden family made their money.

They certainly didn't get rich buying and selling oil :rolleyes:

MattJ
 
aerocontrols said:

I was just bringing him back to his original claim:

In fact, since they were running a construction company in Saudi Arabia, (where much of the native sand is too fine to be used in construction) buying & selling sand is a very good partial description of how the Bin Laden family made their money.

They certainly didn't get rich buying and selling oil :rolleyes:

MattJ

Point taken:

When President George W. Bush froze assets connected to Osama bin Laden, he didn’t tell the American people that the terrorist mastermind’s late brother was an investor in the president’s former oil business in Texas. He also hasn’t leveled with the American public about his financial connections to a host of shady Saudi characters involved in drug cartels, gun smuggling, and terrorist networks.

Doing business with the enemy is nothing new to the Bush family. Much of the Bush family wealth came from supplying needed raw materials and credit to Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich. Several business operations managed by Prescott Bush – the president’s grandfather - were seized by the US government during World War II under the Trading with the Enemy Act.

On October 20, 1942, the federal government seized the Union Banking Corporation in New York City as a front operation for the Nazis. Prescott Bush was a director. Bush, E. Roland Harriman, two Bush associates, and three Nazi executives owned the bank’s shares. Eight days later, the Roosevelt administration seized two other corporations managed by Prescott Bush. The Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation, both managed by the Bush-Harriman bank, were accused by the US federal government of being front organizations for Hitler’s Third Reich. Again, on November 8, 1942, the federal government seized Nazi-controlled assets of Silesian-American Corporation, another Bush-Harriman company doing business with Hitler.

Doing business with the bin Laden empire, therefore, is only the latest extension of the Bush family’s financial ties to unsavory individuals and organizations. Now that thousands of American citizens have died in terrorist attacks and the nation is going to war, the American people should know about George W. Bush’s relationship with the family of Osama bin Laden.
(Continued)
http://www.americanfreedomnews.com/afn_articles/bushsecrets.htm
 
Considering the fact that Osama has like 50 siblings, we probably all have connections to his family. :D
 
Doing business with the enemy is nothing new to the Bush family. Much of the Bush family wealth came from supplying needed raw materials and credit to Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich. Several business operations managed by Prescott Bush – the president’s grandfather - were seized by the US government during World War II under the Trading with the Enemy Act.
Boy and you appeal to people to not make ad hominem.

It is estimated that there are only 6 degrees of separation for the average person. For VIPs there are far fewer. There are many of connections to any and all politicians to any scandal.

We could start with Joseph Kennedy and his links to the mob running alcohol during prohibition and show how Ted Kennedy is a mobster. Robert Kennedy was actually tied to the mob and used his influence as attorney general to remove competition for the Kennedy friends.

And then there is Bill Clinton's ties to the Chinese and how he had Vince Foster killed to cover up the links. White Water was actually started by the Clinton team to keep the investigators from the real scandal, which was the selling of national secrets to Asian countries. Monica Lewinski was a diversion that worked perfectly because the Conservatives were to stupid to see the real crimes being perpetrated.

Google conspiracy and you will find enough evidence to indict Mother Teresa.

Oh, and BTW, Moore's artistic license is NOT ad hominem. It goes to his credibility. You have to ask, "what else is this guy willing to lie about?"

Bowling For Columbine ,Documentary or Fiction?
 
This article might go some way to answering some of the questions asked in this thread:

I was assigned to fly home to Ground Zero and ask the necessary question that could not, in the early days after the attack, leave the lips of American reporters: How did it happen that the CIA, FBI, Defense Intelligence Agency and our other extravagantly funded spooks could neither prevent nor learn in advance about the most deadly attack on America since Pearl Harbor? The answer was as unpleasant as the question. If U.S. intelligence agencies did not see the attack coming it was because they were told not to look. Why? From inside the agencies were obtained statements and documents indicating that the Bush administration blocked key investigations into allegations that top Saudi Arabian royals and some members of the bin Laden family, not just Osama, funded and supported Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations.

The reports I did based on this information won the California State University School of Journalism's Project Censored Award in 2002. It's not the kind of prize you want to win -- it's given to crucial stories that were effectively banned from U.S. airwaves and papers.3 I don't want any misunderstanding here, so I must emphasize what we did not find: We uncovered no information, none whatsoever, that George W. Bush had any advance knowledge of the plan to attack the World Trade Center on 9/11, nor, heaven forbid, any involvement in the attack.

(snip)

Why no investigation of the brothers bin Laden? The Bush administration's line is the Binladdins (a more common spelling of the Arabic name) are good folk. Osama's the Black Sheep, supposedly cut off from his Saudi kin. But the official line notwithstanding, some FBI agents believed the family had some gray sheep worth questioning -- especially these two working with the World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY), which the file labels "a suspected terrorist organization."
Greg Palast is a well respected American investigative journalist. A worrying thing is that he has to work for British news outlets to get his stories published. Another worrying thing is that Michael Moore seems to be one of the few other people ready to report on it. This is worrying because of Moore's history of lying to create a story.
 

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