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Michael Moore tells Blair, "you're next!"

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Michael Moore: Blair, you're next
[AlJazeera.Net]
Friday 11 June 2004 11:59 PM GMT
UK Prime Minister Tony Blair is next says Moore

Maverick filmmaker Michael Moore has said he now wants to make a movie about British Prime Minister Tony Blair's role in the Iraq war.

Moore, director of "Fahrenheit 9/11," the documentary critical of US President George Bush and the Iraq war, said on Friday that he now wants to take a closer look at the British leader's role in backing the war in Iraq and sending troops into harm's way.

"I personally hold Blair more responsible for this war in Iraq than I do George Bush, and the reason is Blair knows better. Blair is not an idiot. What is he doing hanging around this guy?" Moore told Reuters in an interview.

"Fahrenheit 9/11," which will hit US cinemas on 25 June, examines links between the Bush family and influential Saudi Arabians, including the family of Usama bin Laden.

The film also contends that Bush used a fear and misinformation to thrust the United States into a war it did not need to fight.

It won the top prize at the Cannes film festival last month.

Staunch supporters

Britain and Blair have been the staunchest supporters of US-led forces in Iraq, but Moore said that in making "Fahrenheit 9/11" he could focus on only one.

He trained his investigative camera on Bush and that, he said, was a hard decision to make.

"You come at me with anything, we come back with the truth."

"I struggled with it because, I think, what I decided is that I need to make a separate film about Blair, at some point here. I need to do something about Blair and Britain."

He likened Blair to an older sibling of Bush's and said that, as a parent, when two children get in trouble, the parent usually questions the older one as to how he or she could let such a problem occur.

Meanwhile, Moore said he has steeled himself for efforts by Bush supporters to discredit his film, which he said is already happening with attacks on his website and in newspapers amid the current campaign for the White House.

He has made no secret of the fact that he does not support Bush, and wants his re-election attempt to fail.

Moore's 'war room'

To counteract efforts challenging "Fahrenheit 9/11," he has hired Chris Lehane and Mark Fabiani, two former political advisers to Bill Clinton and Al Gore, to establish a "war room"
that will immediately support any claims made in the movie that come under attack.

The group, he said, will be staffed by six to seven people and will operate 24 hours a day, monitoring newscasts and scanning newspapers, magazines and other publications for
statements made discrediting the movie.

"You come at me with anything, we come back with the truth," Moore said.

Moore, who said he is registered as an independent voter, has yet to throw his support behind presumed Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry.

He said the movie is not an effort to support Kerry's White House bid, and said that if Kerry were elected, "I'd keep my eye on him, too."

You can find this article at:
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/DC3F6A61-BB76-44CF-A0A2-459DE1223B0C.htm
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Couldn`t happen to a nicer or vainer fellow than that lovely Mr Blair.
"I`m ready for my close up now Mr DeMoore, the WMD are big, it`s the evidence that got smaller!"
Hope it gets made and is released before the next general election.
 
The group, he said, will be staffed by six to seven people and will operate 24 hours a day, monitoring newscasts and scanning newspapers, magazines and other publications for statements made discrediting the movie.

Good call by Moore on this one, hopefully it will be enough to silence Bush's puppet people, but I suspect it will just encourage them.
 
I agree it`s a good call and I also agree it will probably get swamped with Bushite trolls.
As for a film about Bliar from Moore, he could make it a remake of Prisoner, cell block - H....if only!
 
To counteract efforts challenging "Fahrenheit 9/11," he has hired Chris Lehane and Mark Fabiani, two former political advisers to Bill Clinton and Al Gore, to establish a "war room" that will immediately support any claims made in the movie that come under attack.

I'm impressed. I don't really like Moore, partially because I see him as the type of person who puts a good story before the facts, but this could change my mind. Let's see how they do.
 
Moore was really paying attention to Mel Gibson's promotion of The Passion.

More trumped up controversy = more box office gross.

Fordama
 
God... Moore wants to insulate himself from attack, so he hires the political hitman Lehane - the guy who was behind the 'Kerry's girlfriend' smear. Typical.
 
Moore's people need to be aware of the forum and blog media out there and here. While TV news and newspapers carry a lot of weight, this is changing and many people are looking towards the internet to gain insight into controversial issues.

I will drop Moore a note.
 
I guess he figures he went wrong in not having a "war room" to bolster his fabrications in "Bowling". Now we're gonna see "truth" from a guy who sees nothing wrong with the "creative editing" and out of context info he used against Mr. Heston in the afore mentioned film.

Funny how many self proclaimed "skeptics" are supporting the idea that a producer of polemic trash is a font of "truth".

If Michael Moore told me the sky was blue, I'd go outside and check. But hey, I'm a skeptic.

-z
 
Maverick filmmaker Michael Moore has said he now wants to make a movie about British Prime Minister Tony Blair's role in the Iraq war.

Oh, but it will be balanced and fair, like the rest of Moore's films, so Blair has nothing to worry about. It's not as if he is already the "chosen villan" and will be shown in the darkest possible way by Moore...

You know, Moore's fans' behavior gives the lie to his "I am fair and not biased" schtick. The moment "fair and not biased" Moore says he's going to do a movie on X, they giggle with glee, because it is a foregone conclusion from the start that X (if a politician or a CEO) will be shown to be evil, greedy, stupid, etc., etc., etc., by Moore, no matter how much Moore has to distort, insinuate, or simply lie to get that effect.

But tell them that their very conviction that they already know what the movie would be like--probably justifiably so--might be evidence of some bias on Moore's part, they howl that this is just "smearing" Moore for telling "the objective truth". Well, if Moore is really doing investigative films about the truth... how come you all know from the beginning how the investigation is going to turn out, to the minutest detail?

Another ironic thing about Moore was noted recently by Christopher Hitchens: "Europeans think Americans are fat, vulgar, greedy, stupid, amibitous, ignorant and so on. And they've taken... as their 'representative American' someone who actually embodies all of those qualities."
 
no matter how much Moore has to distort, insinuate, or simply lie to get that effect.

This is interesting, has anyone sued Moore for lying about them?

Well, if Moore is really doing investigative films about the truth... how come you all know from the beginning how the investigation is going to turn out, to the minutest detail?

This is also interesting, could you tell us some stuff from Fahrenheit 911, to the minutest detail?

What does he say about George Bush and that?

If you leave a record here we can all check how right you are when the movie's out.
 
rikzilla said:
I guess he figures he went wrong in not having a "war room" to bolster his fabrications in "Bowling".

Typical right wing propaganda. He made a web page debunking some of these accusations, dont make me paste a link to it as if linking to that page proves you wrong!
 
I'm glad that Moore isnt my champion. Strange that some people are glad that Moore is their champion.

Makes you wonder...
 
Ugh...I used to be a big supporter of Moore, until I figured out how liberally he edits his films...cuts and pastes speech... But I can't say my entire support is gone. Bush's lies kill people, Moore's(hopefully) discredit Bush...
 
rockoon:
"I'm glad that Moore isnt my champion. Strange that some people are glad that Moore is their champion.

Makes you wonder..."

I don`t think it`s so much a case of Moore being a "champion" for many people as it is that he is at least raising questions that our so called free press and media seem unwilling or incapable of doing. You have to ask yourself why that is.

I for one am sick to death of the vapid reporting and eulogizing, seeing politicians and any number of other "experts" and pundits persisiting in repeating cliches and half truths about all manner of issues concerning the "War on Terror" and yet we havent even had a proper investigation into 9/11 yet, the crime that justifies everything that the US and UK are now doing.

It`s being rammed down my throat that "sovereignty" will now been handed back to Iraq by the United Nations Security Council, almost as if Iraq will be off their hands...the BBC told me so last week. But then I also know the esteemed John Simpson, BBC "World Affairs Editor", said all over the BBC News a few weeks ago that the sovereignty handed over would be "meaningless", did he have it all wrong?
In any case, I certainly haven't seen him since.

To put it simply, I`m extremely happy that Michael Moore is capable of making a documentary about Tony Blair's war, but what I want to know is:

Why is somebody from our monopoly public affairs broadcaster not making it already?
 
Skeptic said:
Maverick filmmaker Michael Moore has said he now wants to make a movie about British Prime Minister Tony Blair's role in the Iraq war.

Oh, but it will be balanced and fair, like the rest of Moore's films, so Blair has nothing to worry about. It's not as if he is already the "chosen villan" and will be shown in the darkest possible way by Moore...

If Anne Coultier was funny, she could make a documentary. Michael Moore makes me laugh and think.

Thing is, Republicans aren't funny! Well, I mean, they're funny, but not in a "laugh with me" kind of way.

There are probably some Republicans that are funny. I exaggerate. Dennis Miller is Republican, isn't he? :D
 
tamiO said:


If Anne Coultier was funny, she could make a documentary. Michael Moore makes me laugh and think.

Thing is, Republicans aren't funny! Well, I mean, they're funny, but not in a "laugh with me" kind of way.

There are probably some Republicans that are funny. I exaggerate. Dennis Miller is Republican, isn't he? :D

You can start with P. J. O'Rourke (sp?) or Tom Wolfe's social essays for excellent "Republican" (more accurately, conservative) writing with a great sense of humor. There are many others.

I think it was O'Rourke who, in the 1960s, was (for a short while) a "progressive radical", who actually edited a "counterculture" magazine called "Henry" (why "Henry"? Long story...) Once, the police busted their magazine's headquarters, looking for pot.

The next day, the magazine ran a huge photo of a messed-up office, with beer cans and empty pizza boxes, papers everywhere, etc., with the caption: "'Henry's Office after Bust by Pigs!". On the facing page, he ran an identical photograph, with the caption: "'Henry's Office before Bust by Pigs!". He took that sense of humor with him when he moved right politically.
 
Skeptic said:


You can start with P. J. O'Rourke (sp?) or Tom Wolfe's social essays for excellent "Republican" (more accurately, conservative) writing with a great sense of humor. There are many others.

I think it was O'Rourke who, in the 1960s, was (for a short while) a "progressive radical", who actually edited a "counterculture" magazine called "Henry" (why "Henry"? Long story...) Once, the police busted their magazine's headquarters, looking for pot.

The next day, the magazine ran a huge photo of a messed-up office, with beer cans and empty pizza boxes, papers everywhere, etc., with the caption: "'Henry's Office after Bust by Pigs!". On the facing page, he ran an identical photograph, with the caption: "'Henry's Office before Bust by Pigs!". He took that sense of humor with him when he moved right politically.
Holidays In Hell really holds up well. I reread parts of it several times a year and still laugh out loud.

I consider myself a died-in-the-wool Republican Party Reptile. I've got the baby-oil and video camera to prove it.

Fordama
 
demon said:
rockoon:
I don`t think it`s so much a case of Moore being a "champion" for many people as it is that he is at least raising questions that our so called free press and media seem unwilling or incapable of doing. You have to ask yourself why that is.


Actualy, I have to ask why you think that they are questions worthy of the press. Why is that?

Because some jerk with a video camera can "ask questions" that people are willing to pay $8 to see at a movie theater? Should the press also cover the questions asked in the next LOTR movie? How about Star Wars Ep3? The press gives Moore even more coverage than these movies get.

I for one am sick to death of the vapid reporting and eulogizing, seeing politicians and any number of other "experts" and pundits persisiting in repeating cliches and half truths about all manner of issues concerning the "War on Terror" and yet we havent even had a proper investigation into 9/11 yet, the crime that justifies everything that the US and UK are now doing.

But you admire Moore for doing precisely this sort of thing. Half-truths and so on...?

It`s being rammed down my throat that "sovereignty" will now been handed back to Iraq by the United Nations Security Council, almost as if Iraq will be off their hands...the BBC told me so last week. But then I also know the esteemed John Simpson, BBC "World Affairs Editor", said all over the BBC News a few weeks ago that the sovereignty handed over would be "meaningless", did he have it all wrong?
In any case, I certainly haven't seen him since.

Maybe you don't have free press across the pond? The BBC seems very balanced to me. Maybe they decided they can't sell that message. Maybe they decided that John Simpson shouldnt be editorializing.

To put it simply, I`m extremely happy that Michael Moore is capable of making a documentary about Tony Blair's war, but what I want to know is:

Why is somebody from our monopoly public affairs broadcaster not making it already?

Because BBC is not in the habit of manufacturing half-truths while Moore is.

The BBC reports other people telling half-truths. Moore goes out and manufactures them himself.

Get it?
 

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