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Macular Degeneration and Supplements

Hardenbergh

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Do you think that supplements and diets that support eye health have a significant effect on macular degeneration? I found a topic under "The Edges of Healing" that was very interesting--Myopia and Nutrition. Dr. Garry D. Kappel is based in Oregon.

http://www.iquestsight.com
 
I'd like to know what other experts in the field have to say about the matter first.
 
Once the damage is done, nothing can repair it. The best you can hope for is for treatment to stop it getting worse.

There is some evidence that nutrition can slow or halt degeneration, but since this guy has used the word "reversing" in his writeup, I'm inclined to add him to the wooheap.
 
Hmm, I thought some types of sight-loss were able to be reversed, just not all. Some kind of cateract, if I recall correctly, that would form over the retina, but could be removed.

Of course, this doesn't help my poor grandfather, who is 95 and almost totally blind. Nothing can help him (not that this stops him, of course).
 
Taffer said:
Hmm, I thought some types of sight-loss were able to be reversed, just not all. Some kind of cateract, if I recall correctly, that would form over the retina, but could be removed.


Cataracts can be treated by removing the lens. And there are treatments for some other eye diseases and defects. But we were talking specifically about macular degeneration, which is a one-way process, and seems likely to stay that way, sadly.
 
My father was recently diagnosed with macular degeneration and his doctor recommended Ocuvite PreserVision. I hope it keeps his vision from getting worse. His vision hasn't deteriorated to the degree that he can't drive or anything like that. He's able to do everything he was always able to do--at least for now.
 
Hardenbergh said:
My father was recently diagnosed with macular degeneration and his doctor recommended Ocuvite PreserVision. I hope it keeps his vision from getting worse. His vision hasn't deteriorated to the degree that he can't drive or anything like that. He's able to do everything he was always able to do--at least for now.

I hope he does well. My mother-in-law-to-be didn't move fast enough when she started suffering, and lost most of her central vision. Nevertheless, she can still see well enough to do practically everything, bar reading.


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I just wanted to add that the diet recommended by Dr. Garry Kappel for myopia is an excellent diet to follow whether it's for myopia or otherwise.
 
Are you talking about myopia or macular degeneration?

How does diet affect myopia? Which in my case is genetic (I could see out of my mother's AND my brother's glasses). Physically my retina is placed a bit to far from my cornea, so the uncorrected focal point misses the rods and cones (which are perfectly healthy) -- and my lense is shaped like a football which contributes to the astigmatism (I just had my eyes examined).
 
The diet supposedly would be helpful for both. I don't know if macular degeneration could be reversed with a special diet but it should keep it from getting worse. The OptiVision Forte' is a comprehensive formula that is probably comparative to the doctor recommended Ocuvite Preservision but the OptiVision Forte' seems to go much further. Some people would argue that the additional ingredients might not be of substantial benefit but I wouldn't mind trying it myself just to see if there is any difference. I don't have 20/20 vision by any means. I've worn contact lenses since I was 21. It would at least be worth trying as none of the listed ingredients seem to be unhealthful.
 
Hardenbergh said:
.... It would at least be worth trying as none of the listed ingredients seem to be unhealthful.

Not the answer I was going for.

How does a special diet help someone who is healthy with sufficient normal nutrients work with a GENETIC form of myopia? What would it do other than make a persons urine more expensive?

This time be specific... or at least include the pertinent references.

Editted to add: a quick google search has determined that this particular "doctor" is a woo-woo:
http://www.iquestsight.com/craniosacral.html (a doctor of optometry is not a real medical doctor)
 
A good friend of my mother's has macular degeneration. My Mum has glaucoma and cataract. They see the same ophthalmologist. I know that Dr. Anwar is at the top of his field. He'd try anything he thought had a chance of helping a patient. Especially with macular degeneration, because the degree of sight loss is so great.

I know he's given Jean every help he can give. If there was any dietary advice that would make a difference, frankly I trust him and his colleagues to know about it. For goodness sake, it's not as if these evil allopaths are hiding the news of a beneficial diet from their patients because they think dietary treatment is woo-woo!

So my default position here is that there is no evidence that modifying your diet that can improve or slow the progress of macular degeneration. Until Dr Anwar tells Jean about it that is!

Now, myopia? Er, we do know the difference, do we? Macular degeneration is a severe progressive retinal disease of the elderly that results in total loss of central vision and will get you registered blind. Myopia is short-sightedness. Light not focussing on the (healthy) retina for some reason, correctable with glasses or contact lenses.

Hardenbergh, how can you possibly propose the idea that the same treatment might affect both conditions? Is it possible that you simply have no idea what you're talking about?

And never mind the aetiology, how might it be possible for any sort of diet to affect short-sightedness?

Please be prepared to justify any statements you make about the effects of any diet, and following a recommendation of it as "excellent" with vague and unsubstantiated claims about what it "should" do and then the lame remark that it's worth trying because it can't hurt, just won't cut it around here.

If Garry Kappel is paying you to promote his book, you'd better get a more carefully thought-through sales spiel.

Rolfe.
 
Hydrogen Cyanide said:
Not the answer I was going for.

How does a special diet help someone who is healthy with sufficient normal nutrients work with a GENETIC form of myopia? What would it do other than make a persons urine more expensive?

This time be specific... or at least include the pertinent references.

Editted to add: a quick google search has determined that this particular "doctor" is a woo-woo:
http://www.iquestsight.com/craniosacral.html (a doctor of optometry is not a real medical doctor)

I must admit that I hadn't read that particular article from his website. It does strike me as being a little laughable except for the part about his two blind daughters. I imagine he would be desperately seeking alternative therapies no matter how bizarre they might seem at first glance.
 

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