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Libby found guilty

Looks like he'll maybe get some nice time off to play tennis and golf in "prison", for his lying and obstructing ways...
 
Any grown man with a nickname of "Scooter" should be found guilty of something anyway...
 
And this should prove once and for all Libby outed Valarie Plame as a...oh wait a minute...that was Richard Armitage.

And this should prove once and for all that Richard Armitage outed Valarie Plame as a sooper sekrit undercover CIA operative...oh wait a minute...she wasn't a sooper sekrit undercover CIA operative.

OK, this should prove once and for all that...that...I need a drink!:confused:
 
hubbub2 said:
And this should prove once and for all Libby outed Valarie Plame as a...oh wait a minute...that was Richard Armitage.

And this should prove once and for all that Richard Armitage outed Valarie Plame as a sooper sekrit undercover CIA operative...oh wait a minute...she wasn't a sooper sekrit undercover CIA operative.

OK, this should prove once and for all that...that...I need a drink!:confused:
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From the article
Libby was convicted of one count of obstruction, two counts of perjury and one count of lying to the FBI about how he learned Plame's identity and whom he told.
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According to everyone Skepteical.

The woman was NEVER a secret undercover CIA agent. And lets not forget she admitted herself to bladding after she f8cked her future husband on the first night they met!

However, what concerns me is this. The MSM have had a field day accusing Libby of uncovering this so called agent YET where is the outcry at how the MSM has released details of rendition pilots??

Double standards...you bet!

Mailman
 
mailman said:
According to everyone Skepteical.

The woman was NEVER a secret undercover CIA agent. And lets not forget she admitted herself to bladding after she f8cked her future husband on the first night they met!

However, what concerns me is this. The MSM have had a field day accusing Libby of uncovering this so called agent YET where is the outcry at how the MSM has released details of rendition pilots??

Double standards...you bet!

Mailman
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According to WHOM?

And what is "bladding?"
 
So the evil Bush administration can pull off 9/11 but they can't rig one jury!

Disgraceful.....
 
But they did not have too rig the jury. An appeal and a pardon are probably what is in store for him.

Although how much time should he get for what he did?
 
Sorry, sometimes my sense of humor gets away from me...the point I'm making is, if Richard Armitage outed Plame, why no charges against him?

I thought the whole thing started over who outed Plame.
 
hubbub2 said:
Sorry, sometimes my sense of humor gets away from me...the point I'm making is, if Richard Armitage outed Plame, why no charges against him?

I thought the whole thing started over who outed Plame.
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Libby's trial was on the issue of his obstruction of justice and perjury during the investigation of who outed Plame. His trial was not a prosecution of her outing.
 
eeyore1954 said:
But they did not have too rig the jury. An appeal and a pardon are probably what is in store for him.

Although how much time should he get for what he did?
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It SHOULD depend on the repercussions of his actions. But we'll never know how deep it went.
 
Again, I would like to corroborate that Valerie Plame was deep undercover:

COLLINS: And remind me, Wolf, there was also quite a bit of discussion about whether or not her identity was very well known in the circles of Washington, D.C., and the level of covertness that she held.

BLITZER: I can speak as a reporter here in Washington for 30 years. I did not know that Valerie Plame-Wilson was a covert officer. I didn't even know that Joe Wilson was married at the time.

I'm not sure it was all that widely known what she did, what she didn't do. The fact of the matter is, she had been what they call a knock.

She was not working undercover as a U.S. espionage officer, a CIA clandestine officer working overseas. The CIA had, years earlier, established fake businesses, fake companies for her to go out and recruit spies, foreigners who would help the United States in various capacities. And as a result, she was not working at a U.S. embassy pretending to be a scientific attache or a cultural attache or something else.

COLLINS: Right.

BLITZER: She was out there on her own, working as a clandestine officer, pretending to be an energy consultant, a private citizen, when, in fact, she was an employee of the U.S. government. She was a clandestine officer working for the CIA.

COLLINS: OK.

BLITZER: And that's very dangerous work. And to release that kind of information obviously not only can compromise her, but can compromise a lot of people who might be working and cooperating with the CIA.
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She was not working undercover as a U.S. espionage officer, a CIA clandestine officer working overseas.
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She was a clandestine officer working for the CIA.


Huh?
 
PhantomWolf said:
She was not working undercover as a U.S. espionage officer, a CIA clandestine officer working overseas.
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She was a clandestine officer working for the CIA.


Huh?
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Exactly.

Now, who's on first, wassisname is on second......?

Fact is that unless Libby flips and starts naming names, no one will ever be charged with 'outing' Plame. the whole affair will end with his perjury conviction.

I somewhat doubt that Bush will pardon him. If he does he will have to deal with the loud howls from the Republican Party. Pardon a convicted perjurer who was high up in a Republican administration and that will carry over to the next fed election. Hell, Gerry Ford pardoned Nixon before he was convicted of anything and we know how that worked out for the Republicans.

Clinton lied to Congress about a marital infidelity and suffered for it as did the Democratic Party. Now a member of the administration inner circle is convicted in court of perjury concerning a matter of national security rather than a sexual indescretion.

Yeah, there are Republicans making sure they have their resumes up to date for 2008.
 
PhantomWolf said:
She was not working undercover as a U.S. espionage officer, a CIA clandestine officer working overseas.
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She was a clandestine officer working for the CIA.


Huh?
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I think it means she wasn't overseas, she was working domestically, but she was still working clandestine.

In other words, her activities were secret, but she wasn't a spy.

-Gumboot
 
Tow-may-tow,,,, Tow-mah-tow

She did not skulk about the countryside dressed in camo taking pictures of foreign missile bases. She did gather info and recruit informers on foreign soil did she not? Foreign gov'ts were not aware and could not have learned through any CIA source that she was doing this. Anyone in foreign gov't who had any contact with her, including all those she had recuited, now have a spotlight on them.

,,,,,,,,,,, all because Cheney et al were miffed that Wilson would not play along in their game.
 
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