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Let's talk about the ENDA

Travis

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I wrote up about the opposition to the EDNA about a week ago on my blog.

http://notrambling.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-edna-and-wacky-religious-right.html

And it seems we have a new addition.

Imagine a federal bill that opens up women's restrooms to men who can, willy-nilly, depending on the day, if they feel like it that day, their gender expression and identity is as a woman and that means that they have free reign over the women's bathrooms; that, on it's very face, is sexual harassment.
Sexual harassment is a subjective analysis. If a woman feels put in a position of apprehension for her safety and if she feels like that she is being sexually harassed ... it is sexual harassment for a women in an area where she has a right to privacy and where men should stay out; just because somebody calls themselves a female, objectively he is a male! He will always be a male, just because you go through some kind of sex change mutilation surgery and cosmetic surgery and change your outward appearance. But this law would say even whether you go through that surgery or not, men have free reign on the women's restrooms in every place of employment across the country and don't think that these cross-dressing men won't take advantage of that.
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Yes, we all know how keen rapists are to have sex change surgeries in order to get inside a restroom with women where they then do not rape them.

What a clever idea!
 
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I get that this option would be expensive, but why don't we just have 6 genders instead of two, and just have 6 bathroom facilities instead of 2 or 3. That would solve a lot of this crap.
 
Remember on Ally McBeal, they only had one bathroom.

Seriously, why do you need more than one if you just put in stalls?
 
pgwenthold said:
Remember on Ally McBeal, they only had one bathroom.

Seriously, why do you need more than one if you just put in stalls?
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It's a well-known fact that women's restroom are palatial affairs with free chocolates and wines. This is why they go in and don't come out for hours while we men stare at slowly congealing food or starve to death. Therefore it is unlikely that women would agree to share toilet space with the hairy ones.
 
L.Y.S. said:
I get that this option would be expensive, but why don't we just have 6 genders instead of two, and just have 6 bathroom facilities instead of 2 or 3. That would solve a lot of this crap.
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How about just having lots of single-user, non-gender specific toilets?

Does anyone actually like using large communal public toilets? Let's just get rid of them entirely, and then it won't matter what sort of genitals you're waving about while using them.
 
Gawdzilla said:
It's a well-known fact that women's restroom are palatial affairs with free chocolates and wines. This is why they go in and don't come out for hours while we men stare at slowly congealing food or starve to death. Therefore it is unlikely that women would agree to share toilet space with the hairy ones.
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You forgot to mention the comfy couch.
 
There is a bar on Davie St in Vancouver that has a communal bathroom. The way it is set up has the business part of the bathroom in four small private stalls and the rest of the action is a shared communal space. Works great in a neighborhood that caters heavily to gay/trans. They even have a little fun with it. There are two doors into the shared space, one labelled women and one men. Its fun to watch the looks on people's faces when they use the washroom for the first time.
 
Gawdzilla said:
It's a well-known fact that women's restroom are palatial affairs with free chocolates and wines. This is why they go in and don't come out for hours while we men stare at slowly congealing food or starve to death. Therefore it is unlikely that women would agree to share toilet space with the hairy ones.
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I thought they took so long because of all that yogurt that makes you poop.
 
The nearest men's room to my desk at work smells like someone set fire to a wet Shetland sheep dog 75% of the time. Careful what you wish for with unisex bathrooms, folks.
 
Horatius said:
How about just having lots of single-user, non-gender specific toilets?

Does anyone actually like using large communal public toilets? Let's just get rid of them entirely, and then it won't matter what sort of genitals you're waving about while using them.
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I honestly would not be opposed to using a single large bathroom, but in America there are too many idiots to handle such a drastically simple solution such as sharing the same bathroom. I can honestly say I wouldn't mind sharing the bathroom with women, transwomen, genderless people etc. But I think that's a concept that's just too ahead of it's time in America. In a society of stupid arbitrary separations it won't work.
 
Based on past speeches I've seen/read, some politicians seem to believe that all transgendered men are either homosexual men attempting to trick straight men into having sex with them, or heterosexual men attempting to gain access to female restrooms, changing rooms, and locker rooms for the purposes of sexual assault.

(Transgendered women don't seem to exist in their worldview.)
 
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theprestige said:
Stupid arbitrary separations like the absolute degree of a specific skin tone necessary to qualify for race membership?

Yeah, I could see how that might be a problem...
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I never said skin tone. Stop putting words in my mouth. I clearly denoted majority heritage and family history as the primary determiner of race. With that being said, individuals of said ancestry would most like share a common set of features in most cases.
 
Armitage72 said:
Based on past speeches I've seen/read, some politicians seem to believe that all transgendered men are either homosexual men attempting to trick straight men into having sex with them, or heterosexual men attempting to gain access to female restrooms, changing rooms, and locker rooms for the purposes of sexual assault.

(Transgendered women don't seem to exist in their worldview.)
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I think you have your genders backwards.

Transgender men are female-to-males.

Transgender females are male-to-female.
 
Armitage72 said:
Based on past speeches I've seen/read, some politicians seem to believe that all transgendered men are either homosexual men attempting to trick straight men into having sex with them, or heterosexual men attempting to gain access to female restrooms, changing rooms, and locker rooms for the purposes of sexual assault.

(Transgendered women don't seem to exist in their worldview.)
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I thought it was all just a ploy to spread witchcraft?
 
BardKesnit said:
I think you have your genders backwards.
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A few hours after I posted, I realized that I might have gotten them backwards. My apologies.

My point, which hopefully remained clear from the context, is that there seems to be a portion of the political community that believes that transgendered people don't actually exist. They're all just either sneaky homosexuals or sneaky rapists.
 
Armitage72 said:
A few hours after I posted, I realized that I might have gotten them backwards. My apologies.
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No problem. Many people make that mistake (and I can see why). I wasn't trying to come across snarky. Just trying to educate. :)

My point, which hopefully remained clear from the context, is that there seems to be a portion of the political community that believes that transgendered people don't actually exist. They're all just either sneaky homosexuals or sneaky rapists.
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Your point came across very clear, and I didn't mean to detract from it.

What's ironic is that (according to my friends), women's bathrooms do tend to me nicer than men's!
 
So is this the diabolical plan?

1) Get sex change operation
2) Get access to women's restroom
3) RAPE!

To me that seems so convoluted. Why go through so much trouble to get into the restroom and then rape?
 
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