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JSPR rejects "Dream Detective"

Ersby

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On Victor Zammit’s endlessly amusing website, he says that the JSPR have rejected Gary Schwartz’s report into the test done on “Dream Detective” Chris Robinson. Does anyone know any more about this? Zammit claims the JSPR rejected it because it was so “unbelievable”. “Unbelievably bad” may be the more likely explanation. And it was nice to see Victor try to blame the Queen! Very funny.

I’ve put the abstract of the test at the end of this post if anyone wants to read it, though your time would be better spent elsewhere. There’s a lot of huffing and puffing about how good the randomisation process was, but then they ruin it all by telling the ‘psychic’ the target before his notes are judged. The test, in short, was that Robinson dreamt about a randomly chosen location and made notes, and then was driven to the location, where his notes were compared to the location. Additionally, his notes were also compared to features of the journey to and from the location (not detailed here, but mentioned in other correspondence), increasing Robinson’s chances.

Abstract of Arizona study on Chris Robinson by G. Schwartz:

This paper provides a preliminary report of a ten day precognitive dream Intelligence experiment conducted with Mr. Christopher Robinson (CR), a British citizen, in August 2001 in the Human Energy Systems Laboratory at the University of Arizona. A few days before CR left England, the primary experimenter (PE) selected twenty possible locations in southern Arizona. PE placed each in an envelope, sealed and shuffled the envelopes, and mailed the envelops to a secondary experimenter (SE) in Rancho Sante Fe, California. SE, who was blind to the locations, selected a tertiary experimenter (TE) whose identity was kept secret from PE and CR for the duration of the experiment. TE shuffled the envelopes and numbered them from 1-20. Envelopes 11-20 were treated as control locations, 1-10 became the experimental locations. For ten consecutive nights, CR went to sleep, dreamt about the next day's location, and recorded his dreams. In the mornings, PE interviewed SE, recorded the primary theme information, and then called SE who instructed TE to open the respective envelope, revealing the location to be visited for a given day. SE called PE; the information was kept secret from CR until the location was reached. CR's overall accuracy was 10 out of 10. The findings provide seemingly incontrovertible evidence supporting CR's claim that he has the ability to obtain precognitive dream intelligence about specific locations investigated in a controlled experiment.
 
Hmm..

"The findings provide seemingly incontrovertible evidence supporting CR's claim that he has the ability to obtain precognitive dream intelligence about specific locations investigated in a controlled experiment."

I would say that the Devil is in the details here.

Barkhorn.
 
Is this a sign that Schwartz's decent is nearly complete, where even other paranormal believers can't swallow his claims?


ohh.. ohh.. I'm having a vision of the next location!! I'm getting that it is a warm place, rather dry. I see people, very tanned or dark skinned. It is sunny. Is that a hit? :)
 
Starrman said:
Apparently he is challenging all skeptics. This could be interesting.


http://www.cfpf.org.uk/news/news_04.html

He is challenging skeptics to repeat Schwartz's experiments? Isn't that challenging us to put him through the maze he already designed?

Why should anyone try and repeat a bad experiment? He should be applying to go through a REAL test
 
A (far) better protocol would have been to wait until the 11th day, then hand all 10 sets of notes to another "Primary Experimenter", along with a (randomised) list of the 10 locations, and ask them to match the notes to the locations.

The way this experiment was conducted, the person evaluation the notes (by traveling to and examining the location) already knows that the current notes and location are *supposed* to match. And their accompanied by the pyschic during this evaluation process! You can imagine the potential for distortion :

Experimenter : "Hmmm...your notes say 'turn left at large wheel' - I don't see any large wheel here?"
Psychic (looking around quickly) : "Wheel? Did I write Wheel? No, I meant 'Well' - see over there, the drinking fountain? That's a kind of well, and that's what I was dreaming."
Experimenter : "Yes, okay, I see what you mean. Good, that's another point you've gotten correct. You really are accurate!"
 
Just out of interest I actually tested Chris Robinson many years ago. He claimed to be able to predict, by dreaming, the contents of 3 boxes.

Too boring to explain all the details here but basically he got all 3 wrong. He insisted on going through pages and pages of his "dream notes". I insisted on pinning him down (as he had done of TV) and he wasn't even close.

However on some TV appearances Chris has become too close for it to be just guesswork (IMHO). Now how he actually does this I don't know but I do know the test conditions look incredibly sloppy and Chris is somewhat of an expert in telecommunications. He is quite handy with a radio scanner and if researchers in any given TV studio were communicating with their usual state of the art (circa 1985) equipment it would be quite possible to listen in to what was being said. Now let's assume Chris wouldn't dream (pun intended) of listening in, well it's not fair on him to allow this accusation from mean old skeptics like me, so let's tighten up those protocols shall we?

I'll say this much. If I did the same test again I'm pretty certain he would still fail. I'm happy for him to prove me wrong of course.

Tony Youens
http://www.tonyyouens.com
 

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