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Johnny Carson Talking to James Van Whatshisname, from beyond the grave...

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Not really, but:

http://insider.tv.yahoo.com/celeb/insdr20051014t101200003163/

This link is to a Yahoo entertainment site. It recounts James Van Whatshisname (Praagh?)’s efforts to “communicate” with the spirit of Johnny Carson.

Given that Carson was a skeptic and supported Randi’s efforts to expose Geller and, I think, support for the JREF, etc. This seems like quite the insult, not to mention taking advantage of Carson for publicity sake and assaulting Carson’s family (JVP says, in the article, that the reason he is doing it is to help Carson resolve outstanding family issues).

I have PM’d Linda on this. I think Randi should take advantage of this and public ally demand that JVP take the challenge. Clearly, Houdini-like, were Carson able to communicate from beyond, he’d want people to know about it. Anyway, this is a very sad piece, even though it is “entertainment.” That con-men can pray on the families of the dead and the dead themselves to make a buck like this is truly disgusting.
 
headscratcher4 said:
Not really, but:

http://insider.tv.yahoo.com/celeb/insdr20051014t101200003163/

This link is to a Yahoo entertainment site. It recounts James Van Whatshisname (Praagh?)’s efforts to “communicate” with the spirit of Johnny Carson.

Given that Carson was a skeptic and supported Randi’s efforts to expose Geller and, I think, support for the JREF, etc. This seems like quite the insult, not to mention taking advantage of Carson for publicity sake and assaulting Carson’s family (JVP says, in the article, that the reason he is doing it is to help Carson resolve outstanding family issues).

I have PM’d Linda on this. I think Randi should take advantage of this and public ally demand that JVP take the challenge. Clearly, Houdini-like, were Carson able to communicate from beyond, he’d want people to know about it. Anyway, this is a very sad piece, even though it is “entertainment.” That con-men can pray on the families of the dead and the dead themselves to make a buck like this is truly disgusting.
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Totally agree. JVP is pure scum.
 
Hopefully he can do some of those Karnack bits. I really miss those...:clap:
 
Sadly he is getting a boost with the Ghost Whisperer and all. I wonder why the ghosts in the show never say "My name starts with H .... no wait Its B"
 
[South Park]


Stan: Look, my friend Kyle won't fly home to Colorado. All I need you to do is just talk to him and tell him, you know, the whole talking to dead people isn't for real.

John Edward: Maybe it is for real.

Stan: Right, but it's not. It's a trick you do and I need you to just let my friend Kyle know that so he can go on with his life.

John Edward: Look, people have the right to be skeptical. I really hear voices in my head.

Stan: Yes. We all hear voices in our heads. It's called "intution." Get over yourself and tell my friend it's just for fun.

John Edward: Look, what I do doesn't hurt anybody. I give people closure and help them cope with life.

Stan: No, you give them false hope and a belief in something that isn't real.

John Edward: But I'm a psychic.

Stan: No, dude, you're a douche.

John Edward: I'm not a douche! What if I really believe that dead people talk to me?

Stan: Then you're a stupid douche.


[/South Park]

Link.
 
"Then you're a stupid douche"

Kids...they are so much more honest and straightforward than adults...
 
That SP quote was deleted from Magic Cafe forum where it was used in an Edward's discussion.Apparently calling someone a douche is frowned upon! Whereas lying to a deceased's relatives...
 
Azrael 5 said:
That SP quote was deleted from Magic Cafe forum where it was used in an Edward's discussion.Apparently calling someone a douche is frowned upon! Whereas lying to a deceased's relatives...
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More from the same episode:
Stan: I'm saying this to you, John Edward, you are a liar, you are a fake, and you are the biggest douche ever!

John Edward: Everything I tell people is positive and gives them hope! How does that make me a douche?!

Stan: Because the big questions in life are tough: Why are we here? Where are we from? Where are we going? But if people believe in ***hole douchey liars like you, we're never gonna find the real answer to those questions. You aren't just lying, you're slowing down the progress of all mankind, you douche!
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Stan's last rant there really is the crux of why douches like Edward and van Praagh are evil. They don't just prey on people's ignorance and pain; they retard human progress by encouraging people to be ignorant.
 
headscratcher4 said:
Kids...they are so much more honest and straightforward than adults...
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Yeah. Right. And unfortunately, picking up on the paranormal stuff at a very young age.

Today my 10 year old son came home from school and told me about the new big thing running through the playground. No, it's not the flu. It's calling on the dead. Here's how it works. Child One closes his eyes. Child Two snaps his fingers 15 times right next to One's ears. Then Two picks up One's wrists and moves them up and down 15 times. Then the sequence is repeated 10 times, then 5 times, finally once. Then One calls the name of a dead person and asks the person to lift their arms up (oh, and it's required that One has an 'empty' mind). This schtick worked for every kid on the playground except mine. He was told "it's because your mind isn't open". He tried, in a very young way, to explain the ideomotor effect. To no avail. He didn't want to push too hard for fear of losing friends. Skepticism is a lonely road for a 10 year old.

BTW, James Van Douche lives about 45 miles south of me, in Dana Point. Isn't nice to have a celeb in Orange County?
 
Lisa Simpson said:
Yeah. Right. And unfortunately, picking up on the paranormal stuff at a very young age.

Today my 10 year old son came home from school and told me about the new big thing running through the playground. No, it's not the flu. It's calling on the dead. Here's how it works. Child One closes his eyes. Child Two snaps his fingers 15 times right next to One's ears. Then Two picks up One's wrists and moves them up and down 15 times. Then the sequence is repeated 10 times, then 5 times, finally once. Then One calls the name of a dead person and asks the person to lift their arms up (oh, and it's required that One has an 'empty' mind). This schtick worked for every kid on the playground except mine. He was told "it's because your mind isn't open". He tried, in a very young way, to explain the ideomotor effect. To no avail. He didn't want to push too hard for fear of losing friends. Skepticism is a lonely road for a 10 year old.

BTW, James Van Douche lives about 45 miles south of me, in Dana Point. Isn't nice to have a celeb in Orange County?
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And you without a missile!
 
This is why every celebrity skeptic should have a pre-arranged codeword in case someone tries this after they die.
 
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