John Walsh Takes on NRA

[Ranb]

Vows to Continue Piers Morgan's Gun-Control Campaign on CNN.
https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/john-walsh-takes-nra-vows-continue-piers-morgans-194000262.html

What little I've seen of Walsh on TV tells me that he would be an improvement over Morgan. But the above article is an example of sloppy journalism in my opinion.

And the NRA solution to arm every grammar-school 80-year-old teacher with a gun is absolutely ludicrous,” he said.

As far as I know the NRA has never made this part of their plan to better secure schools against violent intruders. I looked at their National School Shield plan here; http://nraschoolshield.com/NSS_Final_FULL.pdf It doesn't say anything like that.

Walsh added: “I could name 15 first-world countries that check your mental state before you get a gun.”

I wonder if he could actually name them?

Walsh said he has suggested that gun manufacturers put GPS tracking devices in every gun so stolen weapons could be easily recovered.
“Every one of us have a GPS chip in our cell phones. It's not Big Brother,” he said.

I don't think my $20 Nokia pre-paid cell phone has a GPS chip in it.

He said that he has “testified in every state capital multiple times” about guns.

I don't recall any well known media personalities speaking at gun control bill hearings in Olympia other than Gabby Giffords. But I've only been paying attention to WA politics since 2000. I did not come across his name in the testimony records in 1994 during the big push for new crime bills either.

I think the "I'm a gun owner and I love gun control" trope is rather worn out now. They need to think of a better reason for people to trust them. Too much of the article reads like selective quoting and hyperbole; not a good way to start out.

Ranb

 

[Newtons Bit]

Phones have batteries that are almost always kept charged by their users. Same with cars.

Plugging the rifle that I only use once a year into a wall-socket seems comical.

 

[newyorkguy]

John Walsh's position is strong evidence that there is a pushback developing against the NRA.

We all have our vision of the kind of society we want. The NRA vision is not shared by many Americans I don't think. People are concerned the way NRA moves into congressional or state districts and tells the incumbent, "Unless you get on board with us we will use our money and muscle to defeat you in the next election." That kind of tactic turns people off. When people read things like, the NRA WROTE the first Stand Your Ground legislation in Florida, funded a lobbying campaign to get it passed and then used that as a model for other states, people are wary. When they read that the Florida state senator who introduced the first SYG law now says if he had it to do all over he would not have introduced the bill because it hasn't worked as advertised, people begin to question who exactly the NRA represents.

I heard former President Clinton say recently that polls show most Americans support gun rights for hunting and home protection. They do not necessarily want to see teachers carrying guns. They're concerned with widespread carry. They are concerned with the sale of guns that seem to have very little application for the average person and that have been used in spree killings.


I have heard many gun owners say the NRA went off the rails a long time ago. I tend to agree. Someone needs to take them on. I can tell you one thing: Walsh is a pretty savvy guy. He's not someone you want as an adversary.

 

[BStrong]

Dianne Feinstein claims she's quite familiar with firearms because she "put her finger in the bullet hole trying to get a pulse"

"Feinstein leveled him with a steely recounting of her discovery of the body of San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk after the 1978 City Hall shootings that took the lives of Milk and Mayor George Moscone.

“I am quite familiar with firearms,” Feinstein said. “I became mayor as a product of assassination. I found my assassinated colleague and put a finger through a bullet hole trying to get a pulse. Senator, I know something about what firearms can do.”

http://articles.latimes.com/2014/apr/07/news/la-pn-emotional-dianne-feinstein-cia-20140407

FTR, one may put direct pressure on a gsw to stop loss of blood, but one doesn't insert fingers to get a pulse...going to show she knows as much about IA first aid as she does about firearms.

Walsh has had a long run in the spotlight and likes it. Being the father of a victim does not make one a criminologist, but he's certainly entitled to his opinions.

 

[Giz]

I think you may be suffering from confirmation bias.

John Walsh's position is strong evidence that there is a pushback developing against the NRA.

So one gun-control host is replaced by another... and that is a development instead of the status quo?

People are concerned the way NRA moves into congressional or state districts and tells the incumbent, "Unless you get on board with us we will use our money and muscle to defeat you in the next election." That kind of tactic turns people off.

Tell Bloomberg he's turning people off (he vastly outspends the NRA).

I heard former President Clinton say recently that polls show most Americans support gun rights for hunting and home protection. They do not necessarily want to see teachers carrying guns. They're concerned with widespread carry.

Why? CC'ers are statistically very law abiding. You're much better off having one for a neighbor than some 'average' citizen.

They are concerned with the sale of guns that seem to have very little application for the average person and that have been used in spree killings.

Shocking news: people with no experience of a thing cant imagine what use that thing could be!! (ps: ban it!)

 

[newyorkguy]

Dianne Feinstein claims she's quite familiar with firearms because she "put her finger in the bullet hole trying to get a pulse"

FTR, one may put direct pressure on a gsw to stop loss of blood, but one doesn't insert fingers to get a pulse...going to show she knows as much about IA first aid as she does about firearms...

Is there a connection between John Walsh taking on the NRA and Diane Feinstein and the Moscone-Milk assassinations of thirty-five years ago? Because if there is I'm not seeing it.

[OT - I think what Feinstein actually said was, when she entered Harvey Milk's office and saw him bloodied and sprawled unconscious on the floor, she took his wrist to see if she could get a pulse. Because of the blood she did not immediately realize Milk had been shot in the wrist. Inadvertently her finger or fingers entered the wrist wound. /OT]

eta - Or are you suggesting John Walsh has been eating too many Twinkies?

 

[BStrong]

Is there a connection between John Walsh taking on the NRA and Diane Feinstein and the Moscone-Milk assassinations of thirty-five years ago? Because if there is I'm not seeing it.

[OT - I think what Feinstein actually said was, when she entered Harvey Milk's office and saw him bloodied and sprawled unconscious on the floor, she took his wrist to see if she could get a pulse. Because of the blood she did not immediately realize Milk had been shot in the wrist. Inadvertently her finger or fingers entered the wrist wound. /OT]

eta - Or are you suggesting John Walsh has been eating too many Twinkies?

Expertise through victimhood status.

I'll address my specific issue w/ DF in the other thread in a couple of days when I have time. I believe you deserve a detailed answer to your questions wrt DF and her multi-decade long campaign against civilian possession of firearms- except for herself, of course.

 

[newyorkguy]

...I believe you deserve a detailed answer to your questions wrt DF and her multi-decade long campaign against civilian possession of firearms- except for herself, of course.

I'm sure you have an interesting opinion. But again you imply she is a gun owner/carrier despite the fact she said she stopped carrying many years ago as a result of what she saw in the Moscone-Milk shootings. Your contradicting her isn't proof of anything except you obviously have a big problem with her.

 

[Totovader]

Phones have batteries that are almost always kept charged by their users. Same with cars.

Plugging the rifle that I only use once a year into a wall-socket seems comical.

SOLAR FRICKIN GUNS.