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John Lennon Is In Hell...

Kthulhut Fhtagn

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The Lord allowed us to see a man who was inside of one of the cauldrons. He was upside down and the flesh on his face was falling in pieces. He remained watching the Lord intently; and then started to shout and call on the name of Jesus. He said, "Lord have mercy! Lord give me a chance! Lord take me out of this place!" But the Lord Jesus didn't want to look at him. Jesus simply turned his back on him. When Jesus did this, the man started to curse and blaspheme the Lord. This man was John Lennon, the member of the satanic music group "The Beatles." John Lennon was a man who mocked and made fun of the Lord during his life. He said that the Christianity was going to disappear and Jesus Christ would be forgotten by everyone. However, today this man is in hell and Jesus Christ is alive!! Christianity hasn't disappeared either.
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Apparently these seven youths claim God sent them to Hell and that while in Hell they saw John Lennon being tortured among other things all of which can be read here and here. I find this very curious; not just that they saw John Lennon who seems to be a favorite target of Theists, but that God actually revealed himself to these individuals so that they could spread His message. Yet despite this people such as this who make unverifiable claims aren't taken seriously by many people within the religious community. I doubt even some of JREF's most extreme Christians believe these people went through what they claim.

So on a somewhat related note I do have a question for some people here; particularly the religious folks. If God did indeed allow these people to see Hell and, in effect, saved them from Hell for eternity by revealing to them the Truth; is God in fact responsible for these people's torment? And if the answer is yes; doesn't that in fact mean that these people did not go through what they say they do?

ETA: The whole thing is irrelevent anyways if you're willing to stoop to arguing theology. Paul specifically said in regards to his visit to Heaven and Hell that you are not permitted to speak of what you see. And of course people who have written on this subject like Kenneth Hagin and Mary Baxter claimed that refusing to believe in the new "prophets" automatically equals damnation. With Hagin going so far as to claim that anyone, especially ministers, states that he is not a prophet of God that person will drop dead instantly. I've proved that wrong and I'll do it again. Kenneth Hagin is not a prophet of God. You'll notice I'm still typing. I'll even post a follow-up twenty-four hours from now to ensure that I am not dead.

On another note: the owner of the Hell And Justice webpage of course has a problem with Darwin too.
 
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Strange that god does not reveal this to everyone, so that they could make an informed decision on how they wish to live their lives.
 
gdnp said:
Strange that god does not reveal this to everyone, so that they could make an informed decision on how they wish to live their lives.
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If God did that then we'd all know he really existed. Faith would not be required. We wouldn't need priests or other figures of religious authority to tell us about him. The power structure would be gone.
 
Some churches believe that even if you are a Christian you'll go to hell for not worshipping God the same way they do. Since hell is nothing more than a lake with fire in it instead of water then some believers are in the same cauldron with ol John.
 
I don't know, but if I'm upside down, burning in hell with the meat hanging off my face I think I'd be a little too preoccupied to be "cursing and blaspheming" the Lord. And how does this work, does the meat fall off your face and then grow back so that it can keep falling off for eternity?
 
Imposible there is only one god and he is a very good friend of George W. Bush, Bush family and te republicans. His name is Sun Myung Moon and the moonies are his disciples. I really don"t know if Ted Haggard is a moonie or not but Ted Haggard is a gay sexaholic. Oh yeah and few other great religious people like John Hagee or pastor Jeremiah Wright. Lets not forget Pat Robertson and Charles Taylor. And didn"t even Billy Graham made anti semitic jokes with Richard Nixon? Oh god bless the holy people like Dalai Lama or Mother Teressa and gandhi. All holy people seem to be the bigest hypocrites and liars. John Lennon can"t be in hell. John Lennon is not holy enough like those other people.
 
And if anybody is going to be in hell its going to be Tom Delay, Jack Abramoff, David Safavian, Grover Norquist and Ralph Reed. All are "holy" crooks who claim to worship Jesus. Too bad Delay and Reed said that evangelicals are wackos. No they really said that its true.
 
billydkid said:
I don't know, but if I'm upside down, burning in hell with the meat hanging off my face I think I'd be a little too preoccupied to be "cursing and blaspheming" the Lord.
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You'd be surprised. You get used to it.


billydkid said:
And how does this work, does the meat fall off your face and then grow back so that it can keep falling off for eternity?
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Yes, like Prometheus. Vultures ate his liver in the day and it grew back at night.


Moi.Frenchie said:
So God isn't a Beatles fan? He probably likes the Stones...
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No, God likes ABBA
 
Ah then there is the holy man John Doolittle who is a very good friend of Jack Abramoff.
 
If god puts people like John Lennon in hell and god lets people like John Doolittle or Bob Ney go to heaven then god is a very evil man or a woman.
 
The Bible said:
The Lord allowed us to see a man who was inside of one of the cauldrons. He was upside down and the flesh on his face was falling in pieces. He remained watching the Lord intently; and then started to shout and call on the name of Jesus. He said, "Lord have mercy! Lord give me a chance! Lord take me out of this place!" But the Lord Jesus didn't want to look at him. Jesus simply turned his back on him. When Jesus did this, the man started to curse and blaspheme the Lord. This man was John Lennon, the member of the satanic music group "The Beatles." John Lennon was a man who mocked and made fun of the Lord during his life. He said that the Christianity was going to disappear and Jesus Christ would be forgotten by everyone. However, today this man is in hell and Jesus Christ is alive!! Christianity hasn't disappeared either.
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I would like to point out to Christians who believe this that neither John nor anyone else believes in Jesus precisely because we don't see him. So creating a fraudulent context where Jesus clearly exists and is still "rejected" is completly, what's the word? Idiotic. Cathartic for you, perhaps. But idiotic.

"You didn't believe in me without proof, so here's lots of torture for you! Yes, I know there wasn't proof there'd be torture, either, but you were supposed to be scared enough of the possibility to maybe follow through. If you logically rejected it, well, enjoy the pain."

I suppose this just demonstrates God hates logic.



Kthulhut Fhtagn said:
Apparently these seven youths claim God sent them to Hell and that while in Hell they saw John Lennon being tortured among other things
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And people express incredulity when presented with the suggestion that The Bible was just made up. This is how it happens, folks!


So on a somewhat related note I do have a question for some people here; particularly the religious folks. If God did indeed allow these people to see Hell and, in effect, saved them from Hell for eternity by revealing to them the Truth; is God in fact responsible for these people's torment? And if the answer is yes; doesn't that in fact mean that these people did not go through what they say they do?
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Not sure I follow you. "The devil will torture you, but he's only doing God's bidding" has long been a theological problem. Best not to think about it too deeply and just keep sending in your checks.

ETA: The whole thing is irrelevent anyways
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Stop right there. No more need be said.
 
John wrote a song for God, entitled "God". It apparently didn't go over well with the big guy:

"God is a concept by which we measure our pain".

God always liked Paul best.
 
JohnG said:
Ah-Haaaaaaaa!

Anyway, if there IS a rock and roll hell, you know they've got a heavenly band.
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But I thought that the devil had all the good music! :cool:

That's a quote from somewhere, just not sure where :blush:
 
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