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Jacko demonstrates his mental breakdown

People usually lose custody of their kids for being child molesters too. I guess Jackson really is "Invincible".
 
I dunno. Reading the article, it seems to be very different than the mental picture I formed, of Jackson holding a baby by the feet and dangling it over a rail. Apparently, he was holding the baby as most people do, and bent over for a moment with it over the rail. Stupid, yes; but not as bad as it seems at first sight.
 
I've seen the footage. He held the baby with one arm around the baby's chest, his hand barely under the baby's armpit. He didn't lift the baby high enough, causing the baby's legs to hit the balcony rail, and making the baby kick.

Not only was MJ laughing (he's a sick monkey, we know that already), so was a member of his entourage inside the room.

It was scary. You could hear his fans screaming for a glimpse of Jackson... then a quite different screaming set in.

David
 
They have been playing the clip over and over and over all day on Fox News.

The child didn't look to be in any danger. They are only sensationalizing it because it was Jacko. I suppose if he was sitting in a chair and throwing the kid up and the air and catching him, they would make a big deal of that, too.
 
LukeT said:
They have been playing the clip over and over and over all day on Fox News.

The child didn't look to be in any danger. They are only sensationalizing it because it was Jacko. I suppose if he was sitting in a chair and throwing the kid up and the air and catching him, they would make a big deal of that, too.
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If that were on an episode of COPS,someone would be going to jail!!!
 
This brings up a question I've always wanted to ask:

Why is it that so many people assume Jackson was guilty of those accusations of child molestation? I wasn't following it terribly closely, but I never saw anything reported that solidly convinced me that the accusations were truthful.

IIRC, the matter was settled before any significant evidence reached the public. A classic example of buying his way out of trouble, if it was true, but an equally classic example of extorting a settlement if untrue.

Do we, the public, have enough information to judge him?

I'm not a staunch defender of Michael Jackson, I find him creepy lately, and the idea that he might have harmed a child really spooks me. But I have a hard time just assuming it's true.

Am I ignoring something really incriminating that I may have missed?
 
IIRC, the child described certain blotches or mottling in Jackos groin area that was confirmed by a court-mandated examination of Jacko's crotch. Soon after, MJ settled the molestation suit out of court.

So was he guilty? Let me check my magic 8 ball....

"SIGNS POINT TO YES"
 
gnome said:
This brings up a question I've always wanted to ask:

Why is it that so many people assume Jackson was guilty of those accusations of child molestation? I wasn't following it terribly closely, but I never saw anything reported that solidly convinced me that the accusations were truthful.
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On the Oprah Winfrey show Michael was asked if he understood why people would be uncomfortable with the idea that he sleeps with little boys. He unapologetically said that there was nothing wrong with it and that he would continue to do so.

Now let me ask you a question, if you found out some guy down the street was sleeping with 10 - 12 year old boys from the neighborhood what would you think?

That is simply not appropriate behavior. I don't know if he is a child molester but I wouldn't let my boys go there for a sleep over would you?
 
He should be prosecuted for wreckless endangerment of a child. Anyone who saw the footage and didn't think the child was in danger is out of their minds. No sane parent would do such a thing. Never mind asking the question, "Why?" He's a child molesing loon that gets away with it because he's rich.
 
Was the amount of the settlement ever reported? If I was the parent and the evidence was as good as it sounds, I wouldn't settle for anything short of seeing him thrown into jail, preferably in the same cell as those guys from Deliverance. Not that I'd say no to a few million in damages, too.

David
 
Part of the settlement agreement was that the amount would not be disclosed. I believe media estimates were around $20 Million.

As for the balcony incident, it looked to me that Jackson was going to do an "unveiling" of the child. He had a towel over its head. He probably intended to introduce the child to his fans. In order to get maximum visibility, he put the kid out into space. Not the clearest of thinking, that's for sure.

I'm sure he knows he screwed up. But I've seen a lot of parents do equally and much more hazardous things with their kids.

I still don't think the kid was in any serious danger. It was stupid, and there was a one in a million chance of the kid getting dropped, yes. But this is a definite overreaction because it was Jacko, IMO.
 
LukeT said:
Part of the settlement agreement was that the amount would not be disclosed. I believe media estimates were around $20 Million.

As for the balcony incident, it looked to me that Jackson was going to do an "unveiling" of the child. He had a towel over its head. He probably intended to introduce the child to his fans. In order to get maximum visibility, he put the kid out into space. Not the clearest of thinking, that's for sure.

I'm sure he knows he screwed up. But I've seen a lot of parents do equally and much more hazardous things with their kids.

I still don't think the kid was in any serious danger. It was stupid, and there was a one in a million chance of the kid getting dropped, yes. But this is a definite overreaction because it was Jacko, IMO.
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Holding an infant over a railing is endangerment per se. Unveiling? Your guess. Underreaction, because he's rich.
Got any kids?
Because others have done worse is no excuse. He's a loon.
Especially after paying $20 mill to hush up child molestation its obvious he has no business being a parent. Those poor kids.
 
subgenius said:

Got any kids?
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Three kids. One 13 year old boy, and two newborn twins.

I am as careful as a man can be with his kids. But I bet if you followed me around the way MJ is followed around, you'd catch me doing one unsafe thing with them at least once a week. It's just the way things are.

I doubt any parent who says they haven't made a stupid mistake or taken a foolish risk with their kids.

You try to think of everything. You try to be as careful as possible. But mistakes happen.

You learn as you go.
 
LukeT said:


Three kids. One 13 year old boy, and two newborn twins.

I am as careful as a man can be with his kids. But I bet if you followed me around the way MJ is followed around, you'd catch me doing one unsafe thing with them at least once a week. It's just the way things are.

I doubt any parent who says they haven't made a stupid mistake or taken a foolish risk with their kids.

You try to think of everything. You try to be as careful as possible. But mistakes happen.

You learn as you go.
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A mistake is human. Holding a child with one arm over a balcony is wreckless. I'm sure you wouldn't do it.
 
subgenius said:

A mistake is human. Holding a child with one arm over a balcony is wreckless. I'm sure you wouldn't do it.
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No, I would never dangle my kid over a balcony. But I have caught myself trying to do a task onehanded which should have been done twohanded because I had a kid in the other hand. Some might consider that reckless.

I wasn't operating a jigsaw or anything, though. :)
 
Don't get carried away

Especially if your'e MJ's kids

Kidding aside, I thought I should defend subgenius here.

I have one child, 12, and I can remember a couple of stupid things that I have done where I could have been called reckless. Thank goodness there were no consequences.

None of us are perfect and certainly not MJ but one has to be reasonable and objective. With regard to this one single incident I would have to say "give him the benefit of the doubt." He admits it was stupid.

I would hate to have the world watching for every thing I have done that was stupid.

Bentspoon
 
LukeT said:


No, I would never dangle my kid over a balcony. But I have caught myself trying to do a task onehanded which should have been done twohanded because I had a kid in the other hand. Some might consider that reckless.

I wasn't operating a jigsaw or anything, though. :)
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My last word regarding this pedophile: the difference between you being negligent and this is he intentionally held the kid over the rail. Intentionally put the kid in danger. The pedophile is an unfit parent for many other reasons as well. This is not a close case.
Good luck with yours, it is hard enough to keep them from getting injured without intentionally putting them in harms way.
Twins gotta be quite a challenge, how do you ever get them to sleep at the same time? :eek:
 
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