Israeli Strike inside Syria.

It can't be anymore an act of war than the several times the US has done this sort of thing. When you get right down to it an act of war is whatever you want it to be.
 
Agammamon said:
It can't be anymore an act of war than the several times the US has done this sort of thing. When you get right down to it an act of war is whatever you want it to be.
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I dont think I understand your point.
 
I have lots of probems wh the way Isreal handles the Palis but I can't blame them forthis move. If Syria is going to hosts these types of camps they cant play innocent bystander. Bomber training camps do not help the peace process.
 
Tmy said:
I have lots of probems wh the way Isreal handles the Palis but I can't blame them forthis move. If Syria is going to hosts these types of camps they cant play innocent bystander. Bomber training camps do not help the peace process.
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And the evidence for these being bomber training camps is what exactly?

Of course as Israel has illegally occupied part of Syria, even if there were training camps they would presumably be freedom fighters not terrorists, right?
 
I read the news article. Frankly, I'm puzzled.

Why is this not an act of aggression? Just because the Israeli gov't says so? What kind of training facility would allow children to be present? Not youths - the BBC is normally better at distinguishing young children from teenagers/youths - but children? I would tend to believe the Syrian claim, that of it being a Palestinian refugee camp, over the Israelis at this point.

And yes, one person's terrorist is the next one's freedom fighter. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong here...but there is an awful lot of blame to be shared in this whole sorry mess.
 
Jaggy Bunnet said:


And the evidence for these being bomber training camps is what exactly?

Of course as Israel has illegally occupied part of Syria, even if there were training camps they would presumably be freedom fighters not terrorists, right?
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I woudlnt hold my breath waiting for Syria to admit that any place is a terrorist stronghold.

Do you think Israel picked soem random site to bomb just to put a scare into Syria? Do you think they have plans to invade an colonize Syria?
 
Tmy said:


I woudlnt hold my breath waiting for Syria to admit that any place is a terrorist stronghold.
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You seem to have already made your mind up on that one. Apart from some camcorder footage, which could be from anywhere, there isnt even an attempt to show that this was anything other than a refugee camp.

Tmy said:

Do you think Israel picked soem random site to bomb just to put a scare into Syria? Do you think they have plans to invade an colonize Syria?
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Yes (but more to kill more filthy palestians), and maybe.
 
Tmy said:


I woudlnt hold my breath waiting for Syria to admit that any place is a terrorist stronghold.

Do you think Israel picked soem random site to bomb just to put a scare into Syria? Do you think they have plans to invade an colonize Syria?
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And I would recommend you don't hold it waiting for Israel to admit that they have bombed a refugee camp either. Or to produce any evidence.

Given the Israeli record of colonising various parts of their neighbours, why do you think it unlikely they would colonise (more of) Syria?

Do you think Israel just happened to identify a terrorist training camp immediately after a suicide bombing?
 
Peach Jr. said:
And yes, one person's terrorist is the next one's freedom fighter. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong here...but there is an awful lot of blame to be shared in this whole sorry mess.
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I just hate when people start comparing freedom fighters and terrorists.. As long as the main targets of the Hamas and co are school busses and cafes they are terrorists. I wonder how they even dare to call themselves champions and defenders of the Palestinian people, since obviously every single time the Israelis come in the guys withdraw and leave the civilians to take the heat, not exactly a good way of defending the population.
 
Slippery Slope

The slippery slope of the illegal US invasion of Iraq is now apparent!

If we can do it, so can Israel. And that is why the US has condemned Syria - and not Israel. All one need to is cry "terrorist" and any action can be justified.

Sovereignty is the cornerstone of world peace. The UN should speak out against Israel. And the US needs to get on the bandwagon.
 
Good. Hopefully it will turn into an all out war. The only way Isreal can win the Isreali/Palestinain conflict, is when their enemy is detroyed.
 
Jon_in_london said:


I dont think I understand your point.
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What I mean is that Israel didn't do anything that pretty much every other nation is the world hasn't done i.e. get attacked and retaliate. The other half of the post is meant that as far as calling something an act of war, well just about anything that anyone does to you (up to and including just ignoring you) can be used as justification to go to war. For my money it's a hawk phrase.
 
Re: Re: Israeli Strike inside Syria.

I'm combining several posters responses into one...

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Isnt launching an airstrike on another country an act of war?
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Technically, I believe Israel and Syria were already technically at war following the 6days war, etc. (I don't think a peace treaty was ever signed.) In fact, I don't even think Syria recognizes the right of Israel to exist.

And if this place really was a terrorist training camp, shouldn't Syria's support of the terrorist groups attacking Israel also constitute an act of war?

Originally posted by Jaggy Bunnet

And the evidence for these being bomber training camps is what exactly?
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I can't speak specifically about this particular training camp, but Syria is known as a 'state sponsor' of terrorism. Although they may not get involved 'directly', they are very willing to allow terrorist groups to set up offices, etc. their territory.

Having a terrorist training camp within their borders is certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

http://www.terrorismanswers.com/sponsors/syria.html

Originally posted by Jaggy Bunnet

Of course as Israel has illegally occupied part of Syria, even if there were training camps they would presumably be freedom fighters not terrorists, right?
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Who exactly has determined that the occupation of Syrian territory is 'illegal'? Typically, territory captured in a defensive war (as all of Israels wars have been) usually doesn't have to be given up automatically. And although the UN has passed resolutions urging Israel to give up the Golan heights, those same resolutions also call on Syria to recognize Israel's right to security, which they've refused to do.

Originally posted by Jaggy Bunnet

Given the Israeli record of colonising various parts of their neighbours, why do you think it unlikely they would colonise (more of) Syria?
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Actually, they don't really have much of a 'record' in doing that....

Other than the west bank/gaza, what do we have?
- Egypt - But Egyptian territory was returned when Egypt made peace (no colonizing there)
- Lebanon - No colonization there
- Jordan - Again, no colonization

Originally posted by DrChinese

The slippery slope of the illegal US invasion of Iraq is now apparent!

If we can do it, so can Israel.
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Umm, no.

Attacks like that have been going on long before the invasion of Iraq, both in the middle east and elsewhere. The 'slippery slope' has nothing to do with it.

Any attempt to link this strike with the Iraqi invasion is a very weak and poor attempt to try to justify anti-war opinions.

Originally posted by DrChinese

And that is why the US has condemned Syria - and not Israel. All one need to is cry "terrorist" and any action can be justified.
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Perhaps the US is one of the few countries to realize that Israel actually does have a problem with neighbouring countries supporting terrorism directed at Israel.
 
Are they even attacking "Syria". Sounds like they are after Pali terrorists hanging out on Syrian property. Its not like they dropped bombs in downtown Damascus.
 
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Segnosaur said:
Perhaps the US is one of the few countries to realize that Israel actually does have a problem with neighbouring countries supporting terrorism directed at Israel.
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Or perhaps Israel knows the US has been waving its sword in the direction of Syria, and therefore the US has little choice but to go along with Israel using identical rationale.
 
From what I've read, the US is all but patting Israel on the back for this act. I think we should at least be saying to Israel "Whoa, hold on, what are you trying to do, kick off WWIII?"
 
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Or perhaps Israel knows the US has been waving its sword in the direction of Syria, and therefore the US has little choice but to go along with Israel using identical rationale.
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Sorry, but Israel has had no problems attacking neighbours in the past in defense of its security, even when the world was against them doing so. (Bombing the Iraqi reactor, invasion of Lebanon.)

So now we have gone from "the attack on Iraq" to the US "Waving its sword at Syria". Interesting switch in phrasing. Of course, the US might already be "waving its sword" at Syria without the Iraqi invasion.

The fact that the US has been 'waving its sword' at Syria was more than likely irrelevant in their decision to attack.
 
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